Posted by ThurmondEppy on May 29, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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Posted by movol77 on May 29, 2008 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is Gerald Williams transferring to UT by the second summer session or fall semester?

Posted by txsvol on May 29, 2008 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm really pulling for Gerald Williams. Is he still MLB size, or will he move to DE or DT? Good to have the other six enrolled on the Hill, getting the GPA up during the non-football season. Go New Vols! SAVol

Posted by movol77 on May 29, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Warren is going to be a great addition. Williams would be great too, even if he's drawing social security. :)

Posted by Vol13 on May 29, 2008 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's embarassing that we are still messing around with Gerald Williams. No disrespect, but if after 3 years this kid is not fully eligible to be at UT - he doesn't need to be at UT. Academically, he is a liability and it's not fair to him either for us to put him in a situation where he will struggle (the classroom). Some people were cut out for college course work and some weren't. It's sad. But that's reality. As much as I love football and sports, we are an academic institution first. They don't call it student-athlete just because it has a nice ring to it.

Posted by beachvol1 on May 29, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know you think it is a waste for still getting Williams on the team but I admire his perseverance for not giving up and wanting to plan for UT and wear the Orange...tells you he wants to play in the worst way...as for Warren, have no pity for this one as he could have signed with the Vols on the getgo, but no, had visions of being a Seminole...we need guys with his ability but hate to be 2nd choice...

Posted by Vol13 on May 29, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I admire his perseverance as well. But the reality is that if this guy couldn't make a tackle, we would not be affording him the same opportunities as other Joe Blow students. If this were my son or daughter and they were wanting to be admitted to UT in order to go to college, they would have been turned down long ago. Even though they wouldn't have football and other activities to take them away from their studies.

I can just see this guy struggling to pass courses and being academically ineligible a year or two down the road, hurting our APR. If he can't pass remedial courses after HS, in prep school, or in JUCO in order to become eligible (or get a passing test score) I see nothing to make me think he can cut the mustard at a larger university with tougher academic standards. That is all.

Posted by IPOrange on May 29, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Best wishes, Brandon. Continue to get the job done in the classroom so that we'll be able to see you on the field this fall.

Posted by FWBVol on May 29, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The history of Gerald Williams is long and winding. If I remember correctly, the whole thing had to do with the NCAA clearing house not giving its OK, and thus the journey began.

As one who did struggle academically at one time, but was able to mature and finish my last four semesters with better than a 3.0, I say give the kid a chance.

Past studies have shown that athletes have a higher graduation rate than the rest of the student body.

The kid wants to be at UT mighty badly or he would have taken the easy road to a D II or NAIA school that doesn't have the higher academic standards of D-IA teams. Anyone that wants to wear the Orange that much deserves a shot to at least try.

Posted by txvolsfan on May 29, 2008 at 8:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Look forward to Warren playing for the Vols, Does anyone know if he will still be TE or move to DE? I'm rooting for Gerald, he really was impressing in his short time on the hill!!!
GO VOLS
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by mempuss on May 29, 2008 at 9:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good job B warren......The Orangs Nation welcomes you!

Posted by RichRollin on May 29, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm really hyped about Warren, since he has proven that he can play at this level. Williams deserves a shot also. Most kids would have given up by now. With Warren, I say he deserves a chance at TE just because he is such a balanced player. He can help in the run game and is better than any TE we have already. Former freshman all-american sounds good to me!!

Posted by ncvol on May 29, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Keep up the studies and we will see you on the field. Go vols...

Posted by Need_2_Know on May 29, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ah, it's just good to be talking football on the Hill. Speculation is that we'll be strong offensively as long as Crompton can get the ball to the receivers downfield as well as short and sideline. The defense seems well staffed except for the d-line, specifically at tackle. We have some studs coming up at the end position, but we've got to generate some middle push to make them effective. Does anyone have a link to the depth chart coming out of spring camp? Bolden could be big, if he wants to be, but who else do we have there?

Posted by brdteton on May 29, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Two Words: Wooooo Hooooo!

Warren is a stud, Frosh on Campus and bring on Williams!

With Warren added to the last signing class rankings then Big O is top 20. Bobby B. didn't want to let this guy go for a reason, he is GOOOOOD.

Posted by DingoVol on May 29, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Warren will be a huge plus for the Vols. I live in Tallahassee and saw him play 3 games his Freshman year. He led the Seminoles in receptions and has great speed. They never use the tight end, but his talent forced them to. They are still crying about him leaving. Go Vols!

Posted by RichRollin on May 29, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kinda funny how the Memfuss boys don't wanna jump in the F-ball chat rooms!!

Posted by tngeoff on May 29, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a great addition to our already strong offense. I'm sure he'll make the grade with his strong desire. Coach Clawson has a potentially dominating offense that with his scheme could make for an exciting year. I don't care if we win 72 - 71 as long as we win. Crank up the "O" and light up the scoreboard. My wife and I will be at the UCLA game and we're looking forward to it. I'll be in LA next week and will ahev to start talkin' some trash now. Go Vols!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=61DnOsJd1J...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HEYFRLbvWo...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HRUuDuWgKC...

Posted by Goodvol on May 30, 2008 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As the state school, they try to give everyone an opportunity to attend school. Williams would have been able to attend school but not play sports. It was never the fact he wasn't smart enough to get into school. The NCAA questioned his academic standing. He did what he needed to do to get back into school and qualify to play football. I, for one, will cheer a little louder for him because I know how hard he worked to get into school and play football. I welcome him with open arms and he is a valued member of our team, as long as he gets over all the hurdles.

Posted by sjt18 on May 30, 2008 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nervous about Williams. I'm not sure why they would have him at CC if there weren't some kind of continuing problem.

savage, if you pick this thread up, do you know anything about the eligibility of the others? Hughes if eligible needed to be there.

Thomas would have been nice to get in as well. With his measurables, he may be a candidate to convert to DT considering that UT appears to be in good shape with some high profile OL's for 09.

Posted by b_neas on May 30, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm pulling for Gerald Williams too. The NCAA can blows sometimes with all the paperwork and regulations. He must be a pretty solid kid character wise to keep persevereing through all this.

Posted by chrslyp on May 30, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i'm pumped about warren, he's a hell of a football player and a fellow alcoa alumnus.

Posted by Bigger_Al on May 30, 2008 at 8:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the NCAA gave Gerald the "Fetch a Rock" treatment - go do this; now go do this; now this; but it was never enough to overcome borderline academics and his high school's reputation.

If he was admitted originally, he would be either a SR. or Redshirt JR. this year. I guess he will be a SO. now or Redshirt FR.?

I'm glad he has persevered through all this, and I am excited to see him playing in the orange this season!

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

warren's a stud.

thought he was the best player florida state had, regardless of position.

Posted by waterskier3 on May 30, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

does the new OC even use a TE in his play calling? coach cut always acted liked he did but it was only to answer media questions..... just wondering because we've only used TE to block the last 13 years... even witten was under used...

Posted by Huntingdonvol on May 30, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just one question,a little lost here, why did Warren leave FS?

Posted by chrslyp on May 30, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

he wanted to be closer to his mother in alcoa, who has health problems. the only reason he left for fsu in the first place was because he has always been a die hard fsu fan, couldn't pass up the opportunity.

Posted by Brama on May 30, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good to see Brandon Warren Back home.Don't count your chickens before they hatch on Gerald Williams.

Posted by TommyJack on May 30, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pray Warren gets eligible. Friend in Tallabygadhassee tells me Warren would be impact player anywhere. Fast.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 30, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Warren had a build and speed similar to Tony Gonzalez of the Cheifs. Hopefully he is half as good.

Of course Gannon Goodson had the build and speed of Larry Bird, so it doen't always work out.

Posted by sjt18 on May 30, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A guy on another board said that Williams had to take a class at Pellissippi that wasn't offered @ SFCC. He said that was part of the plan all along.

Just passing it along- nothing independently confirmed.

However, someone else said that Hubbs said he would be in this time.

I hope he takes out his angst for being yanked around on the rest of the SEC.

Posted by VolGraduate on May 30, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vol13 smells like cabbage

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 30, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can Warren or Williams play D-tackle?

Posted by sjt18 on May 30, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Williams can play MLB which definitely could help the DT's.

Warren did play some at DE for FSU if I remember correctly.

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

warren has nfl written all over him at tight end. i would not move him anywhere.

Posted by txsvol on May 30, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Had we have listed DeMo with *****, Brandon Warren & Gerald Williams with their **** each to the 18 recruits @ 2.94 average on scouts, we would have catapulted our class to #11, not just Top 20. (I worked out the math in mid-February--you will just have to take my word for it now.) 99gator is right, Warren should be left at TE, and thrown to early and often. If we have a ball control offense, with a quick strike capacity, it's amazing how much better our defense will be. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 11:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

let me put it this way....

i fear brandon warren (if he is ready to go mentally...learning tennessee's offense and such) a heck of a lot more than i do any of the other skill players that tenn brings to the table.

now, te's can't take a pass and go 80. but, warren has the talent to make plays in the middle of the field against college lb's and safeties all day long.

he was the one guy florida state had, that i would have like to have at florida.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 30, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

99, He will also make our receivers better by drawing the safety away from double teams. Our receivers need all the help they can get. I saw a few highlights of him at FSU and he runs with a purpose.

I think Tigervols earlier post was wishful thinking. We really do need some DT's, hopefully a JUCO is available similar to Jesse Mahalona.

Posted by sjt18 on May 30, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99, I suspect that you and many others will learn to give G Jones more respect than that. Think a bigger Harvin with more power and just slightly less speed. If he keeps his head on straight, he'll be a headache for DC's around the SEC much like Harvin is.

Posted by sjt18 on May 30, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Badges, Playing time has put UT in contention for several of the top HS DT's in the country. It may not be necessary to go JUCO after all.

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18

put the kool-aid down. take two steps back and put your hands in the air.

gerald jones looks like a pretty good player, i'll grant you that.

however, gerald jones couldn't carry percy harvin's jock on his best day.

Posted by TommyJack on May 30, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

txsvol: Doc, are you saying 3 and out stresses the defense? We once understood that. I'm gonna forward your post to Cutcliff. lol

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 , It's all about test scores.Everybody is eligible gradewise at this point.the only 2 that have to improve their score is Walls & Hughes.Walls has been working w/ a tutor and hi coach said his practice scores have been very good, and doubts he will have any trouble.

Williams being at Pellissippi was the plan all along.He will be at Tennessee in time for scheduled practice.

Warren has some work to do in the weight room.Hubbs said he has lost alot of weight, so TE may be a more natural position for him ,atleast this yr.I agree w/ 99, Warren can give this offense another deminsion.If Clawson is as advertised, the O could be one of the best since the Shuler/Manning eras.

Posted by TommyJack on May 30, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99: Showing your gator ballz, huh? Like it.

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tj

"i keeps it real"

seriously, if college's could pull off trades....a percy harvin for gerald jones trade would get someone fired at florida and promoted at tennessee.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BADGES0413 ,Great point on Warren.

sjt18/99gator, both of you put the kool-aid down.lol

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

i am on a kool-aid high. like pac-man after eating a power pellet.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator , At this point I can't argue Harvin is on another level, however Harvin is not a better pro prospect than Jones.Harvin is probably a kick return specialist in the NFL.But, I will give the devil his due,Jones has proved nothing and this is college not the NFL.

By the way, a friend of mine is a huge Gator fan (born in Florida) and said Rainey may be faster than Harvin.Any truth?Also is he a RB or receiver?

Posted by txvolsfan on May 30, 2008 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to agree with 99 until Gerald proves he belongs in that class, he is no where close to Percy
TXVOLSFAN

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator ,If I were a UF fan, and looking at my talent level and the schedule I would never come down off of that high.

Posted by VolByBirth on May 30, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

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Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

rainey is faster than harvin.

jeff demps is faster than all of them. don't know if he will redshirt or if they will play him at all.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 30, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99, I saw Rainey in the FLA spring game, he can fly. Is Harvin going to be ready for fall practice after his surgery?

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator ,I don't know if even UF fans realize how good that team can be over the next couple of yr's.If the defense comes around.....watchout!

I was just messin w/ you about Harvin in the NFL.If he puts on some muscle he could be effective, and I hope he is.Once a SEC player from another school leaves for the NFL, I usually become an instant fan, unless they were a total jerk.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on May 30, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Rainey is faster than harvin. Jeff demps is faster than all of them."

And just think how much faster they will be after Tebow tells them he's gonna do a little procedure on them.

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

i actually agree about harvin's pro potential. i think he is a better running back, if you will, than route runner and pass catcher. but, he is as dangerous with the ball in his hands as anyone florida has ever had.

as far as the season is concerned, i don't think florida's defense will be national championship good in 2008. but, they should not have to be. if they can hold teams under 30, they will be tough to beat.

Posted by 99gator on May 30, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

badges

harvin is supposed to be fine by the time fall practice starts. his surgery supposedly went well and i have not heard anything indicating there have been any problems with his recovery.

so, he should be fine.

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 30, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Harvin excells in two routes - the post and the fly where he can use his speed.

I've said it many times - Meyers offense is pretty basic. He does a lot of different things which makes it seem quite complex, but when you have a guy who can run a 4.2....max protect and throw it up to him.

Posted by marc_ash on May 30, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff,

I've had a heck of a bad week, but those last 2 youtube posts you put up of the GA game in 03 and the one from last season really made my day.

And to think, less than 100 days till we get to smell the pigskin.

Go Vols.

Posted by Phowell23 on May 30, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Warren left Florida State to be close to his ailing mother in Alcoa, TN. Sounds alot like Tyler Smith in basketball who came back home to be close to his ailing father.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 30, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash, Georgia on my mind is one of my all time you tube favorites.I got that game on tape, and during the doldrums I'll watch it from start to finish.The stunned look on the UGA fans faces was priceless.

Posted by Vol13 on May 30, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was told by reliable sources that Warren is "nowhere close to football shape." Look for Stocker and Cottam to carry the TE torch in 2008. They may work Warren into things later in the year.

Williams is a DE all the way. JUCO is not the SEC and he would be exposed playing MLB to the nth degree. If he gets in.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on May 30, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I liked the baby and the helmet. :)

Posted by marc_ash on May 30, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thesavageorange
I love it too. Not a huge youtube person, but that was great. My girlfriend is a UGA fan and was at that 03 game with me. Hope this year is as fun and my seats don't blow.

I have to say one of my all time favorites is the Willhoit field goal with 6 seconds left to beat Florida. Miss a point after and then redeem yourself with a long field goal at the end.

My buddy told me Willhoit had a standing ovation when he walked into his first class that Monday morning. I'd have probably stood and clapped too.

Posted by GoVol on May 30, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Harvin will not be able to take the punishment the NFL dishes out. He'll stay injured most of the time and won't be nearly the impact player in the NFL that he is at the collegiate level. I've noticed that Harvin is very good at not letting the Defense have a direct hit on him, but it does happen sometime. In the NFL all it will take is one hit from a linebacker and Harvin will be in the 2nd row of the stands.

Posted by tngeoff on May 30, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash.

Thanks. Glad you liked them! I am really looking forward to UCLA and no matter what anybody says...Coach Fulmer OWNS the Dawgs! They are sooooooo obnoxious...and to see the before and after every time we pound them si really a crack up. Every year though they come out with their mouths running. I was intrigued by the "Polls don't mean jack" thing. Probably because of US when it comes to UGA!

orangebloodgmc.

That baby shot was soooo funny!

Go Vols!

Posted by pdhuff on May 30, 2008 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How fast is Dupree?

Posted by KingsportVol on May 30, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pd with or without a pack of lit bottle rockets in his arse?

Posted by txsvol on May 30, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Names begin to run together. Warren? Jeff Demps? Is Jeff Demps faster than Warren Jeffs? I'm pretty sure that Jeffs is faster than Travis Henry! SAVol

Posted by TommyJack on May 30, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

txsvol: Travis never met a condom he liked.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 31, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DCFlorida, thanks for the info on Demps. The Vols made a real strong push for him as well. Looks like most of his attention is on making a push for the Olympics right now though so it may be awhile before we get to see what he can do on the football field.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on May 31, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And how big is that football player Demps ... about 6'2 and 235 isn't he?

Posted by orangebloodgmc on May 31, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey folks, the magazines are coming out now. They don't know anything about Warren and they think Perriloux might be the LSU QB. OK, never mind.

Posted by TommyJack on May 31, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hope Warren is running stadium steps. Vol13 usually has the good skinny. 3:pm post.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 31, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Agreed DCFlorida, not many people are ever going to have the chance to lay claim to "fastest man on the planet". I figure a redshirt is in his future at the least.

Posted by sjt18 on June 2, 2008 at 2:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry so late back to the party. In case you're still drinking 99gator I'll simplify:

Speed- Harvin
Quickness- push
Strength- Jones
Size- Jones

I'm not saying that speed alone won't make Harvin the better player by the time both finish their careers... but Jones IS bigger and stronger and has exceptional quickness.