Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 21, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ummmmm, decline much?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 21, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Color him Crimson.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on May 21, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to admit, it's a real shame when the hometown boys are recruited by the Vols and they aren't saying, "Hell yeah, my childhood dream come true".

Posted by FWBVol on May 21, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't have any idea as to what kind of football player this kid is, but so far West Virginia, Georgia Tech and Ole Miss are the two best programs to offer him a scholarship.

CPF and the Vol staff will catch grief if they offer a kid that only Ole Miss, Vandy and West Virginia have offered, and catch grief if they don't offer a local kid before Alabama or Florida.

Posted by WVVOLFAN on May 21, 2008 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FWB, WV finished in the top 5 last year. What's wrong with them offering. Last year WVU would have beat UT. I think that if WVU is offering, UT should be on this kid big.

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 21, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UT or Ole Miss????
UT or Vandy???????
UT or Georgia Tech????
UT or West Virginia?????

If he wants a super education I can see him looking at Stanford or Vandy, if he is after a football career his best choice out of the listed options is UT.

I question his decision making ability, not sure he is what we need at UT.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 21, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vol_in_LSU_land, ease up a little, I'd think it would be hard to get too excited since the Vols have not offered yet. Academics may also play a role as well. Getting a scholarship offer from Georgia Tech and possibly Stanford isn't anything to take lightly if he wants a good education. Not saying he couldn't get one at UT as well but those two schools are some heavy hitters in the academic world. Hope he has done very well on his SAT's.

Posted by Vol13 on May 21, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet you that WVA would beat have beaten us 3 of the last 4 years. I wouldn't exactly turn my nose up at their offer.

Posted by marc_ash on May 21, 2008 at 4:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This young man will be going to Vanderbilt.

Posted by marc_ash on May 21, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Invisiblekid,

100% right. Those schools aren't slouches by any stretch. And when most young men will never see an NFL playing field, academics should be at the top of the list for all of them. Having the opportunity to get an education from Tech, Stanford or Vandy has to be tempting to anyone who has a remote chance of getting in.

Posted by bigbluevol on May 21, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wasn't there an article about this guy recently or mention of him in article and Hooker made the point that this guy might not be the type of lineman UT was looking for? The West Virginia offer is a good one, but they run a very different style of offense from what it seems we are looking to run. The hesitancy to offer might be due to that reason. His hesitancy to accept could have to do with hurt feelings or the notion we're hearing a lot that "such and such gave me the most love." Just food for thought.

Posted by chas_turner on May 21, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I doubt Wake Forrest or Vandy offer players that don't have good academics.

Posted by GerryOP on May 21, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmmmmm. GaTech/Vandy or UT/WVU?

"Tennessee and West Virginia, which each had three teams on the list, were the only BCS schools with more than one team penalized. Each school had three teams make it..."

Guess it depends on what is most important to young Mr. Jackson.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 21, 2008 at 5:40 p.m.

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Posted by pdhuff on May 21, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOp, how many O-lineman do we have on scholly? Also, DBs? Any idea?

Just curious....

Posted by TNfaninMS on May 21, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin-

Why is it that you have nothing positive to say any of the time? I'm just curious because this kid hasnt even set foot on a college football field and you are already calling him a loser? I dont understand the negativity about these kids coming from some of ya'll. Give these kids a break but I guess you have to make yourselves feel good about something. HUH?
GO VOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by GerryOP on May 21, 2008 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff, don't know. Too many OL and DB? And not enough DL? All I know is that if young Mr. Jackson is most interested in an education, I would advise him to look at GT/Vandy rather than UT/WVU.

This APR thing strikes dang close to the blow hole with me. The most significant stat to come out of K'town. One of only two schools that had more than one sport fail to pass, and UT and WVU each had three. They are both on young Mr. Jackson's list.

The bright spot I see is that Coach Fulmer's teachin' and mentorin' saved the football team. However, his secondary job will be evaluated by the end of September.

If we make it through September .....

Posted by wballer on May 21, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOp....if you have so little respect for degrees from THE UNIVERSITY of Tennessee, then could you please let us know why you are a fan? If you are partial to Vandy, then you can go hang out with the other liberal arts grads and sip the champagne that you bought with your parents' money. UT students seek degrees from nationally ranked programs that are of ACTUAL USE to their professional lives.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 21, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who said I was talking about the kid? I should have clarified.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 21, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Should have said as long as he doesn't end up at Furman where most losers end up.

Posted by miamiVOL on May 21, 2008 at 7:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LadyVolsEighTimes wow take off your blinders, WVU has been to THREE BCS GAMES since TN has been to one, and current recruits dont remember watching BCS games on TV 10 yrs ago, they remember watching WVU light up OU last winter

Posted by pdhuff on May 21, 2008 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOp, 6:35- I believe that's teaching and mentoring and cantering and repaying. He has to have a vacation or two along.

At the end of the doldrums, a Bruin awaits.

Posted by DaddyVol on May 21, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just can't figure out why we can offer to him and could not offer to Andre Sterling. He did just as good as Rogan in High school and he did it in 5A. We might not need RB, but we needed what we could get in the 08 class. We got 35th ranked class and turned our nose up at one of the top 5 players in the state. On the other hand, don't be fooled by his 0 star rating on rivals. This kid can really play and has alot to do with Sterlings success. Just thought we slept on Sterling that's all.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 21, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

will Sterling qualify this year?

Posted by GerryOP on May 21, 2008 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wballer, 6:49 PM: Since you are new here, or maybe you are one of the bozos who like to change there screen names, I will try to be polite. My post referred to the APR results from the past academic year. Our University was freakin' tied for dead last.

Maybe you are simply one of the folks that Chris Fowler was talking about in 1997. Or, prehaps, reading comprehension is not one of your strengths.

BTW, FWIW, BS Engr, UTK, 1966 (Paid my own way through UT)-- Retired in 2003 and doing very well for myself, thank you very much.

BTW, also, it would be more constructive if your posts addressed the topic of the article ratehr than attempting to trash other posters

Be well my friend.

Posted by InterestingStory on May 21, 2008 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coach Fulmer hardly ever offers local kids because he has no respect for local high school football. Even though East Tennessee has some of the best teams in the state. Dennis Rogan didn't turn out too bad did he? Foolmer has let Carl Stewart go to Auburn, Brandon Warren to FSU, and Baron Huber to Bama, Kyrus Lanxter to UK and countless others. Fulmer can't evaluate talent until he sees an offer from Bama or LSU, then he says well this kid must be good so I will offer last minute. Thinking his 1998 National title will get the local kid to stay home even though he probably already knows the whole Bama campus. Yeah right. Fulmer just doesn't respect the local kids. The local kids should start disrespecting him too by dropping 41 on the Vols like Bama did last year. Fulmer is a joke. I wouldn't play for Foolmer if I was a local kid.
Go Vols!! Recruit some O linemen from Hawaii or California. They will be real loyal Vols when the times get tough like they have been lately.

Posted by GerryOP on May 21, 2008 at 8:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff - 7:36 PM, fear the Bruin ... and the 'Croc and the Tiger.

If we make it through September ....

Posted by pdhuff on May 21, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

D1AStarters, interesting take, don the kevlar, however, the Ites will come for you.

Posted by TommyJack on May 21, 2008 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP 8:16: By Gad, that was a good retort to the baller. Props to you.

Posted by beachvol1 on May 21, 2008 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I totally agree....Phil needs to pay more attention to what is in-state rather than what is in California, Texas, Florida, ect....appears to me that there is more talent in high school football within that the Vols are not getting...no brainer to me....

Posted by Plasticman on May 21, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't think Coach Fulmer "let" Brandon Warren go to FSU. He recruited Warren hard and it came down to UT and FSU. Warren chose FSU and is now back in Knoxville at Pellissippi St. trying to get in to UT. Let's face it, HS Football in Knoxville is not as talented as other areas of the country. Yeah, there are a few each year that are worth D-1 scholarships, but name the last one that Fulmer did not recruit that became a big success in college. Only one I can think of was Chad Pennington.

Posted by InterestingStory on May 21, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did he offer Carl Stewart before or after every other SEC school? All I am saying is that the Tennessee offer for most of these local kids usually comes after they have been offered by the 11 other SEC schools. Fulmer is a day late and a dollar short when it comes to local kids. Baron Huber started at Bama as a Sophmore and Carl Stewart wasn't bad at Auburn. He offers kids too late. Last year Tennessee offered Rogan after and only after Miami and a few other schools had already offered him. Fulmer shows non interest until the last minute with these local kids!!

http://www.loveliestvillage.org/journ...

Posted by MillisaAnn on May 21, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope he comes to UT.

Posted by DaddyVol on May 21, 2008 at 10:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Patrick Turner would look good as a senior at UT. But I forgot, he probably went for the "FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE" that one gets when they attend USC!!! Yet and still, him and Patrick Willis are 2 of the biggest no gets in the last few years. Not to mention a few DL here and there. Maybe Rogan has Enlightened the OL' ball coach. IF we get Marlon Brown from Memphis, I will be convinced! He is high on us too, but we need to close the deal!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by bamacheats on May 22, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think this kid can get in any college once ProActiv offers him a scholarship.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 1:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"WVU has been to THREE BCS GAMES since TN has been to one, and current recruits dont remember watching BCS games on TV 10 yrs ago, they remember watching WVU light up OU last winter"

Yep... OTOH, is there anyone who actually keeps up with college football that believes UT wouldn't have been to more than 3 BCS bowls if they'd been in the Big Easy Conference during that same period? Is there anyone in their right mind that thinks WVU would have the same level of success in the SEC?

The Big East is starting to develop more parity but NO ONE thinks the quality of that conference is anywhere close to the SEC... IOW's, you are comparing oranges to apples.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"We got 35th ranked class and turned our nose up at one of the top 5 players in the state."

Sterling was 3* right? If they'd signed him, he'd have lowered their all important class ranking, right?

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 2:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Carl Stewart go to Auburn, Brandon Warren to FSU,"

Pretty sure CPF recruited both of these guys hard but lost them... Warren seems to have seen the error of his ways though.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 2:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

beachvol1, If CPF had concentrated on Tn talent as you suggest over the past two years both classes would have been ranked much lower... and the howls of his kneejerk, irrational critics that much more shrill.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 2:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All that said... I wish nothing but the best for Jackson, hope he makes the best decision for himself, and that he ends up at UT.

Posted by Vol13 on May 22, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Come onboard, young man!!!!! Why get an education from Vandy when you can come to UT and major in Urban Studies while playing football?

Posted by Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

102 days till Football Time In Tennessee!!!!

Posted by DaddyVol on May 22, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Had we gotten all the in-state O-line that went to BAMA, it would have helped the rankings quite a bit!! Several 4star linemen got outta state last year. Andre Sterling was a FREAKING PLAYER!! Houston Nutt must have an eye for running backs and he chose Sterling, not bad. Should see him come off bench to split duties with Enrique Davis in the next few years. Plus the recruiting services obviously have no clue of what prep sports have become in the EASTTENN area!! We would not just keep recruiting guys that are 0star from a skill standpoint, or would we?

Posted by chrslyp on May 22, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i believe fulmer does a good job of recruiting local players, as far as brandon warren, the kid grew up a huge fsu fan, kyrus lanxster would have had too much competition at ut. hell, you can look at all the local players he recruited this year, maples from maryville, douglas from maryville, cobb from alcoa, who committed to uk. if you're a descent local player, ut will most likely at least give you a look.

Posted by chrslyp on May 22, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

also, forgot to mention dustin lyndsay from alcoa a few years ago, can't qualify, rae sykes from alcoa this year..the list goes on and on. most of the talent is coming from blount county though.

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin,

"He should just go to Furman. That's where most losers end up anyway."

Pretty sure you have no defense on this one. Even you are above this.

GerryOP

"This APR thing strikes dang close to the blow hole with me. The most significant stat to come out of K'town. One of only two schools that had more than one sport fail to pass, and UT and WVU each had three. They are both on young Mr. Jackson's list.

The bright spot I see is that Coach Fulmer's teachin' and mentorin' saved the football team. However, his secondary job will be evaluated by the end of September."

Please explain again how every single ounce of this burden falls onthe coach's shoulders. Where is the guidance from the University or the parents, and the where is the will of the kid involved in all of this? What about the ones that are kicked out of school, or, GASP!, sign million dollar contracts before they graduate. Let me just tell you, if in my junior year of college, a corporation had offered me a million dollar job, you better believe I would NOT have a college education. Isn't that why I was there in the first place?

Sure the coach recruits the kid, but the burden does not rest solely on his shoulders.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DaddyVol, Barrett Jones father played basketball at Bama. He grew up a lifelong Tide fan... and because of CPF UT was still in it until he made his commitment.

Can you name an RB besides McFadden and Jones that Nutt has coached and had big success? CPF's "eye" for RB's has been much more keen.

FWIW, Davis would have probably been a Vol if Foster hadn't returned. He wants to play right away and knew he'd have to beat out 3 guys at UT.

It really wouldn't bother me if UT did recruit more Tn players and started locking down the borders. The risk is they might not sign enough talent to be competitive. For those who revel in reminding everyone of the 35th rated recruiting class... Tn talent alone would seldom produce a top 20 class much less top 5.

It is a Catch-22. Recruit all those 2-3* instate players and you may not get what you need. Pass over those players and you won't develop the loyalty with high schools and communities that you need to guarantee the top tier recruits come your way.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

According to Rivals over the past 5 years or so, Tn produces an average of five or six 4-5* players. If UT got them all it wouldn't give them a top 25 class on a regular basis.

Posted by sjt18 on May 22, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In case you read this non-sense Mr Jackson, do please realize that there are fan impostors that show up on these type sites to stir the pot. Would anyone with any affinity for UT write some of the denigrating things that have been written here?

Posted by pdhuff on May 22, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18, I would give these recruits a little more credit than that, being they are of the ultra-communications world. They are young, but slightly more jaded than we give them credit for. The ones I'm around march to their own drummer.

Compared to geezers and others....

Posted by chrslyp on May 22, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

anyone notice in the kid's picture, he's wearing an orange shirt? it's a start.

Posted by Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The same people that rant on here are the same ones that were ranting when Cinderella didn't get out of the castle in time.

Posted by GerryOP on May 22, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat-

If I implied that the APR failures should be laid at the feet of the HCs, I apologize. This problem lands squarely on the desk of Mike Hamilton. What the HC is responsible for is recruiting qualified scholar/athletes. Kids that can meet the academic requirements. The HC can not be 100% right on all recruits, but, that's why folks like Coach Fulmer get paid the big bucks.

Do you find it interesting that when John Adams attacked Fulmer, Hamilton and Coach Fulmer wrote articles of outrage and indignation. After the 2005 season, Hamilton "suggested" that Coach Fulmer write a mea culpa memo. However, what have we heard from Hamilton now that the UTAD is tied for worst in the country in APR? Nothing but a deafening silence.

As far as the NCAA standards being right or wrong, I am an old fashioned kind of guy. I still believe in respecting authority. You either live by the rules which you voted on and agreed to abide by or you get the rules changed. Do you remember last Fall when one kid was not allowed to play in the Outback Bowl because he failed to sign up for the correct courses? Certainly the kid is ultimately responsible, but, where were all of these caring and loving UTAD folks when the kid reviewed his Fall academic schedule? Yet Coach Fulmer pointed a finger at the rule changes, changes made BEFORE the start of the semester. Is Fulmer trying to get us to believe that no one on the entire UTAD staff was aware of the rule change? I guess that tells us what Fulmer thinks of the intelligence of UT graduates!

And the APR failure is not a loss in double OT or by one point. Remember, only two universities had more than one sport fail to meet the APR standards, UT and UWV. And each had THREE sports fail to meet the standards. Are you proud of that? Does that performance reflect well on OUR University? I think each of you have to answer those questions for yourself. And Mike Hamilton should certainly being doing more than a little evaluation of his program.

I am proud of my degree from The University of Tennessee. I attended UT of my own free will. I gave up a scholarship at one of the highly ranked northeastern universities to attend UT. I earned and borrowed money so that I could attend UT. And I love all UT sports. It hurts me to see UT attacked in the press for athletic failures, but, it pains me more to see Our University critcized for academic failures.

I have a favorite UT t-shirt. I think it came out after the '98 NC. It lists the accomplishments of some highly successful UT graduates -- Rhodes Scholars, astronauts, Noble prizes, judges, etc -- and closes with something like "...And we play a little football too!" Think about that!

Be well my friend.

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe I read too much into the last paragraph that is in the post that I copied from your original concerning Fulmer.

I agree that the APR is a huge failure, but I just wish the NCAA was a little more realistic in the standard. Why should it be to the Universities detriment that a kid decides to leave for another school? Or, that the kid was a bad apple and the school removed it? I appreciate my degree as much as the next guy, but I can guarantee you that it will never afford me the opportunity to sign a 6 yr. $68 mil contract ever in my lifetime. If I had that opportunity presented to me before I got my degree, PEACE!

Posted by coxo921 on May 22, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Reading these posts completely disgusts me; I have been a proud Vol fan for most of my adult life. However, the past few years have worn on me mostly b/c of the incredible lack of respect and amazing amount of stupidity fans show when given the chance.

There is no reason freedom to post rights should be given under the "Football Recruiting" articles. Young men who are being recruited by UT, and others who aren't, read your ridiculous comments about players and coaches. These kids are still very impressionable and have minds that develop opinions very quickly not only about what they read but what is told to them by others (like non respectable dirty recruiters from other schools) not to mention family members of coaches and players alike…come on Think About It!!!

You all are entitled to your opinion, and no matter how stupid or insensitive it may be, you have the freedom to express it however, it SHOULD be done in person around the water cooler at work or other person to person communications in your own daily setting, not hiding behind the veil of a internet bulletin board with no repercussion to your comments.

Look at it this way, do you really want to lower yourself to the standards which have disgusted many over the years involving other programs like Alabama, Kentucky and others. Where the fans make a mochery of their school by the things they say and the actions they take in public.

Or is it TOO LATE? Due to the insane amount of sports talk radio in Knoxville and streamed over the internet, not too mention ridiculous forums that KNS (volquest/gridscape etc) allow to be posted, I would say at this point....YES, unfortunately. However, it’s never too late to change.

COME ON! Be a true fan and a real MAN, support UT, their coaches and players and respect others who may want to join...in short be a good sport.

If not or...If you want or feel the need to post something so ridiculous, at least put your name to it and an address, email or otherwise. SO that if you feel so overwhelmingly important that your opinion of others needs to be posted… no matter how hurtful or wrong. Then the said person you put down can contact you and have a discussion of why you feel so outwardly spoken to post on an internet chat forum about someone you don’t know personally.

Otherwise quit denigrating a very good and respectable institution and a fine city with quality scholar athletes on various levels coached by people who have dedicated themselves to their profession.

By the way this is my first and last post, I will be petitioning KNS and their editors to please remove this posting forum from the "Football Recruiting" portion of their site.

If you have a comment about this or would like to help me in my petetion effort, please I encourage you to email me at

coxo921@gmail.com

Thank you, patrick from North Carolina

Posted by Vol13 on May 22, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said Patrick!!! Now, if you don't mind will you please list all the players since the internet started that didn't sign with UT because one of our "stupid" fans posted something negative about the program?

Also (if you don't mind), fill us in on the current guys we have on the team that signed because some gleeful fan had the audacity to post a big "Go Vols!" on the www.

Thanks.

Posted by GerryOP on May 22, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat, no, the APR problem is not Fulmer's problem. It is a university/UTAD problem. And it affects every UT grad.

As far as the APR rules, I am not an expert. However, I believe that as long as an athlete leaves in good academic standing it would not negatively impact the football APR. I am sure someone on here will correct me if I am mistaken!!!!!

Be well my friend.

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP, I have no idea how it works. Probably be best if I didn't comment on the subject at all. Sorry for reading your comments incorrectly. Just get tired of people laying EVERYTHING at Fulmer's feet.

Nice try Patrick. Several of us appreciate your sincerity. However, a-holes will always be a-holes. It took Vol13 just a few minutes to prove it.

Posted by wballer on May 22, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOp...the fact that UT finished in the bottom 3 of the APR rankings does not speak to the quality of the institution. It may be an indictment of the basketball program under Buzz Peterson or of our pitiful baseball program with it's numerous problems, however it does not reflect on the quality of an education from UT. If academics are truly a priority for Mr. Jackson, then we should all hope that he takes full advantage of the opportunities presented at UT, and sets an example for those around him. We certainly know that the Vols can always use leadership in that area.

BTW...I commented on your post because the last thing that we need on a recruiting message board is a UT fan/grad insinuating that if an athlete values his education, he should not choose UT.....
"Guess it depends on what is most important to young Mr. Jackson."

Posted by TommyJack on May 22, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

coxo: 2 words. free speech. Totally asinine to think that any recruit would take this site seriously enough to make a decision. If anything, this site exhibits the passion of the fans...just different approaches. BTW, many of the poster's names are just a click of their screen name away...as is a method for emailing them. FYI

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If anyone wants to personally email me, feel free to contact me via the way TommyJack suggested. I love getting fan mail.

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack, please do not try to defend the following post:

"He should just go to Furman. That's where most losers end up anyway."

Free speech or not, that was totally uncalled for.

Posted by Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Posted by GerryOP on May 22, 2008 at 10:29 a.m.

It hurts me to see UT attacked in the press for athletic failures" REALLY?

"Posted on April 27 at 10:11 p.m.

pdhuff, September 2008 will tell the story. I will try to restrain myself until then. Maybe if Coach Fulmer would stick to teachin' and mentorin' and leave the coachin' to the experts the season might turn out to be a success."

The attack on CPF on 4/27 is just one of many that found. Do you have Alzheimer's?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL at auttat!!! He's still crying.

Posted by Vol13 on May 22, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP:

Great, great post!!! You kind of tap-danced around the issue without saying it. But I will. What in the heck do all those associate AD's, special assistants, academic counselors, etc. do on The Hill? They are drawing an annual salary from the UTAD and I have to assume they are getting state benefits and retirement, although I could be wrong about the last part.

This has been a joke for years. Open the media guide and look at all the "phat" in the AD up there. There is no excuse for ANY kid in the athletic program up there not being steered to at least follow the NCAA academic rules. And with all the tutorship, etc. that is at their disposal there is really no excuse to have a failing grade in any course. If I would have had people around to babysit and cater to me like that in college then I would have had a 4.0.

The UTAD is a joke. But probably not so much more of one that most AD's around the country. But I swear that I have been to at least 3 games where either Haywood Harris, Gus Manning, or both retired at halftime. Yet, at last check both were still on the payroll. It's all about the good ole boy network and protecting the establishment. Winning is just an added bonus.

Posted by GerryOP on May 22, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley @ 11:37 - And your point is? But, then again, we all know that many of your posts have no point. Sir, you have a good day.

wballer @ 11:13 - Just a small misunderstanding on your part. UT did not finish in the bottom 3 of the APR, WE FINISHED TIED FOR DEAD-FREAKIN'-LAST! By a large margin! And, I in no way meant to imply that one could not get a good education at UT. Many of us have. I just get tired of the UTAD promoting the vaunted Thornton Center as the answer to all of a student athletes education problems. Thornton is clearly not getting the job done. To repeat, we finished tied for dead-freaking-last in the APR rankings.

Second point, I advocate that those that keep screaming about the negative impact this board has on recruiting are making two seriously false assumptions. 1)They are underestimating the intelligence of the recruits; and, 2)They are overestimating their own importance to UT athletics. You can be assured that if the negative impact is real, UT would have it shut down in a heartbeat! Both Hamilton and Fulmer would write letters to the KNS overflowing with angst and indignation pleading thier case!

As an OBTW, if a potential recruit takes the inane posts by some of the bozos on this board seriously, we probably don't ... well, you know!

Be well my friend.

Posted by InterestingStory on May 22, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not saying that Fulmer doesn't recruit local players. He does but he does so during their later years after they have been pursued by other schools since their freshman years. Why do you think guys like Carl Stewart went to Auburn it is because they recruited him early in his high school career. Maybe Carl Steward didn't turn out to be great but Baron Huber who started for Bama last year sure did turn into something since he and his Tiders put up 41 on the Vols last year. LOL. Plus UT didn't beat Aubie while Stewart was there either. Who is laughing now Phil?

http://www.loveliestvillage.org/journ...

If you notice that article says "not long after his high school career began, Auburn won over his heart." Fulmer jumps on these kids late. Rogan was seriously considering Miami before the blimp finally offered him. You know where Phil was when he lost these local kids? He was probably out in Texas eating Cheetos chasing (a slow lumbering chase) around some kid that went to USC where he has a chance to win big games.

Posted by Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gerryop, your just another azhole with a vendetta against CPF. Do you still miss Johnny?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"your". Nice usage Ashley. I thought you were better than that. I guess I was mistaken.

Posted by volboy81 on May 22, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

how do you grow up in Knoxville and not JUMP at the chance to play football at UT??????????????

Posted by TommyJack on May 22, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat 11:31 Hell man, I'm not the one that said it.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alabama,Clemson,Auburn,North Carolina,and Virginia are all schools Jackson is interested that haven't offered either.Tennessee doesn't have an obligation to offer a guy just because he lives in Tennessee.

Some of the other guys UT has missed on in the past were kids from private schools or christian institutions, and weren't even from Tenn, plus grew up fans of other schools.

This works both ways.Example:Marlon Walls was recruited out of Olive Branch MS , but is actually a Memphis native.Toney Williams was recruited out of Alpharetta GA , but was born in Tennessee and lived here for 13 yrs before relocating to Atl.

No, this isn't always the case, but there is no obligation for a young man to grow up loving the Vols.Most kids grow up liking whoever their folks liked, and Tennesse has a ton of transplants due to the corporate tax relief provided for companies that move here.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack, It's the doldrums.Where's tngeoff to take some bullets when you need him.

Posted by TommyJack on May 22, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Savage: Geoff is attending a youtube symposium in Bali.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TommyJack ,lol!I miss ole geoff.

Rob Lewis is reporting that Brandon Warren has been admitted to Tenessee.There is still some things to get done but so far so good.

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't say you did, TJ. Workin has free speech and all, but he should be mature enough not to call a 17 yr. high school kid a loser.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat, are you still crying abou this? LOL!!!!!!!!!

TJ, I think he is looking for some approval or for you to renounce my comment. LOL!!!!!!!!

I see how you conveniently disregarded my other posts about what I meant to say.

Oh, and don't even try to give me the whole I tried to save face with my subsequent post because since I am such an a-hole as everyone claims it wouldn't really matter to me what I said.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so, are their any positions on the field that the jobs were not determined at the end of spring and will be determined in the fall?

Posted by Ashley on May 22, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

With a career total of 398 receiving yards(Carl Stewart)

I'm sorry can someone tell me why this guys name is even being metioned in conversations? The game of his career came against Citadel when he rushed for 91 yds. With a name like d1a, one would think your bar would be set higher.

Thanks workin, for helping me with my grammer, your one heck of a guy.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator , WR, TE, and possibly one of the corners.IMO there is a chance that Berry moves to corner and either Rogan or Willingham moves to safety to maximize the effect of the secondary.The other will battle Vinson for the other corner spot, and the loser grabs the 5th spot in the nickel.

Although ,me and invisiblekid are convinced that Chief is working on the 9 DB "buzzard package".

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

i know what having a ball hawking centerfielder at safety can do (reggie nelson). however, if morely can provide close to that level of play....i would rather have berry at corner.

Posted by BADGES0413 on May 22, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99- Our safties our set, but still 3 corners vying for the 2 spots. Maybe one LB spot between McKenzie and Myers-White still open. Offense should be set with 6 WR being interchangeable. If Savage is right and Warren is admitted that will make the TE position deep.

tennessee.rivals.com/cdepthtext.asp - 72k

Posted by auttat on May 22, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Should have said as long as he doesn't end up at Furman where most losers end up."

Great clarification workin! You said the same thing just a different way.

BTW, have a good friend that "ended up" at Furman after kicking for Central Florida for 2 years. Guess he is twice a loser since he was a kicker and played for Furman. Too bad he has more dignity in his pinky than you could ever muster.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

auttat, that's great that you have a friend. I don't really care and you really don't need to justify to me where your friends went to college and whether or not they are a loser.

"Too bad he has more dignity in his pinky than you could ever muster."

Ummmm....is this supposed to hurt my feelings or strengthen your "argument"? LOL!!!!!!!!

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, I think that's whats happened concerning Morely.The staff said it was as if he never left, and infact looked improved.Amazing what a good attitude will do.Plus Rogan and Willingham have continued to impress.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage

well, the advantage would be morely would not have to be that good if berry is. in other words, you could leave morely deep shaded to the opposite side of the field as berry on the assumption that berry would stick his man without help.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on May 22, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, thank you for turning the subject back to actual Tennessee football.

If one assumed Berry would stay at safety, then it would be an interesting enough battle to see what starting corners would emerge of Vinson, Rogan, Willingham and Marcelous Johnson. There are other young ones that could be in the mix and Gaines as well.

Posted by JClif1 on May 22, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great another local prospect....We need this like Phil needs a bacon sandwich....

2003
Phillip Tritapoe- wow who?

Brad Cottam -Went pro but very unproductive career

Antonio gaines-Dont remember too much about him

Bo hardegree-Career backup Switched to Tennis i think.
Steven Jones-Who?

2004

Demonte Bolden-Biggest dissapointment in years

Britton Colquitt- Dont have a problem with this signing.

Ramon Foster- Nor this one.

David holbert-He was a fullback.

Ryan Karl-Decent Felt like someone could have been starting over him though.

Ellix Wilson-Yet to make an impact but I do like him.

2005

Jeff Cottam- 4 catches 19 yards 2007

Todd Cox- Once again Who?

Darius Myers- Huge. Hasnt stepped on the field yet though(I dont think)

Austin Rogers- Most overrated WR in Tennessee in a while. (Couldnt find the Drops Stat)

Dan Williams- Played a little last year

2006

Blake Garretson-Might have been kicked off the team? Or practice squad
Dustin Lindsey- Couldnt quiet makes the grades
Lee Smith- DUI or something?
Jacques Mcclendon- SOlid Player

2007

Anthony anderson-Will never see the field
Todd Campbell- never will either.
Chris Donald-Still hoping he will be great.
Cory hall- Might be a career backup
Josh Hawkins- Never see the feild
Tyler Maples- Had a great orange and white game. Might be the extent of his career.
Rae Sykes-Dunno if he ever enrolled?
Rogan- So far so good.

So thats a list on rivals. As you can see only about 5 or 6 of these instaters have made an impact.

Go to espn.com and look at the roster theres about 25 locals that don't have a number yet. Didnt feel like i needed to list them.

Theres also a few JR and SR locals that weren't on rivals but I have never heard of.

Cool so hopefully Phil sees this and sends the recruiting squad to Florida, Cali, Georgia, Texas.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 22, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good luck with your efforts to stamp out negativity Patrick. When you finish here at GoVols, I suggest moving on to ESPN, CBS Sportsline, Fox Sports, Vol Nation, The Sporting News, Sports Illustrated, College Football News, Rival, CSTV and any other website with a message board. The bottom line is that stupidity can't be regulated and, given a chance, many people will always find a way to make fools of themselves.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 22, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator-

Someone mentioned it briefly, but I'm pretty sure the starting LB's are not set in stone. We've got one of the best JuCo players in the country coming in at LB along with Marlon Walls and I think both of them will be competing for a spot in the fall.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i found a video of workin on the internet!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-lgrJRJd7d...

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator , Dead on.A lock down CB can change the entire dynamics of a defense.Although the thought of Morely & Berry ,aka "The Goon Squad", lurking over the middle is enticing as well.

Boy, it would be fun to watch the 1 on 1 beetween Harvin & Berry.Yeah, fun and heart wrenching for both sides.

Posted by TommyJack on May 22, 2008 at 5:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jclif1: Yeah, Brad Cottam has been a big bust in the NFL. Good Grief.

Are you trying to win the Tolstoy award here?

Posted by JClif1 on May 22, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yea i didnt mean he was a big bust in the NFL... I meant Brad Cottam went pro, although he had a very unproductive career at UT. Sorry didn't know i had to spell it out for you.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 22, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SavageO, glad to see the Ol' Buzzard is still in the collective conscience. Also, great insight on that 2:36 post. I love the Vols, Knoxville, the state of TN, and the SE as much as anyone. However, unlike some, I can understand why a kid faced with a choice that may affect the rest of his life could possibly choose other institutions of higher learning.

GerryOP, regarding the negative impact on recruiting, I agree that it is being over dramatized by some on here. However, I can see where the speculation on Fulmer's job could have had an impact in a recruit's decision last year. That speculation is almost completely dormant at this point by the majority of folk on here though. Winning or at least being competitive in games tends to cure that particular ill. I agree that it is insulting the intelligence of most of these recruits to think that they would base a decision that could affect them for the rest of their lives solely on the rantings of an anonymous name on a computer screen. Finally, I believe a trip to Neyland on gameday has a much greater impact that reading posts on GoVols.

Posted by JClif1 on May 22, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Which By the way I don't blame his unproductive career on him all the way. I think he was really underused. He probably could have had better stats than Chris Brown if given the chance. Seemed like he moved a little better after the catch.

Posted by TommyJack on May 22, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, maybe the casts slowed him down some.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing a football jersey with no shoulder pads (much less have it untucked) or ever do the Gator Chomp. I have too much self respect for doing either of those two things. Also, I don't make bets like that. Bennies and dimes only for this guy.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/st...

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

workin

just giving you the business.

you dish it out, but you can take it too.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 22, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good link gator, can't believe the ACC is 1-9 in BCS games.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 22, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator and Savage O, just to stick my two cents in on Berry, I like him at corner. Shut down half the field on passing plays and it makes everyone on the other side look even better. It also gives Berry a better chance to highlight his talent when an opposing team does try to test him.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid

as i said before, i like him at corner too. there are ways to attack a defense that tries to play that way.....but, there is a move and a counter move to everything.

if that's what tennessee did to me.....i would isolate berry on one side of the field with only one receiver to that side and continuously run berry's man deep just to remove berry from the play. if the receiver happens to beat him on a play or two....better still.

Posted by Vol13 on May 22, 2008 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you think for a minute that Gerald Williams may start at MLB in 2008, then you know absolutely nothing about Chavis/Fulmer and the pucker factor surrounding both. Williams is a DE all the way and I doubt he'll ever set foot on the field at MLB for the Vols. That is, if he even gets in school.

Posted by pdhuff on May 22, 2008 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How many days, Ashley?

Free TDTN.

Ya'll take it easy on a pore bidness man from Tx!

But remember to study the charts.

Posted by JClif1 on May 22, 2008 at 5:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gerald Williams.... One i've been lookin forward to seeing on the field for years... Hopefully we will keep him at LB or DE and not make him gain 40 lbs and move to DT

Posted by invisiblekid on May 22, 2008 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, I believe your idea of running the WR deep sort of proves my point on shutting down half the field. If that's all that you do, it allows the safeties to cheat to the other side and help out more on the underneath coverage and run support. Another line of thinking would be run the CB through a ton of picks on underneath routes and try to wear him down. You look at the NFL and all teams covet a shutdown corner.

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisible

well, in theory.....

i would run him deep and either drag a receiver from the other side across the field into the vacated space, swing a running back out in space on a linebacker or the other safety, or do the same thing with a tight end.

there are lots of things you could do. you have to use a wr with enough speed that tenn would feel compelled to have berry out on him.

again, there are so many moves and counter moves we could be here all day.

it depends on how good and deep the wr corps for the other team is, what kind of pressure is being applied on a qb, is the other team having success running the ball, down and distance, etc, etc, etc...

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisible

everything would be based on what tenn would be doing with their "extra man".

would that safety blitz
take a cb's coverage responsibility and have the cb blitz
take a lb's coverage responsibility and have the lb blitz
against a team with a running qb, act as a spy
play kind of like a rover back in the intermediate middle of the field

etc, etc, etc.

because that's where the advantage is in theory. you have freed up an extra player to do whatever.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 22, 2008 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99/kid, good points both ways.Needless to say that a guy like Berry is an asset.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 22, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99Gator, "again, there are so many moves and counter moves we could be here all day". That's the beauty of football, especially college,isn't it?

Posted by 99gator on May 22, 2008 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes, it is.

and as savage said. berry gives tenn more ways to try to "skin a cat (or gator)" if you will.

that's where talent and personnel matters. the more weapons you have (on either side of the ball), the more possibilities you have to try to establish an advantage wherever you can.

Posted by wtnvol on May 22, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bamacheats...that was an unnecessary comment about the "proactiv" scholarship.

Posted by murrayvol on May 22, 2008 at 7:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ivk, 99gator: Enjoyed the give and take. Way better than the regular bill of fare. You guys should be sharing these thoughts w/Meyer & Fulmer.

In closing: I'm glad Berry is on our side so we don't have to bother scheming around him.

Posted by vols1314 on May 23, 2008 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

he is 20 minutes away from knoxville and going to an alabama camp? If Jackson picks damn bama people will run him and his family out of town with torches and pitchforks. We can't ever get GOOD tennessee guys like we used to. it is terrible. This guy must not be a "Tennessee Boy" like Dominique Allen is. By the way im from henry county and dont get your hopes up on dominique. Not a RB in the SEC more than likely a FB.

Posted by sjt18 on May 23, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

savage, where did you hear anything about Berry moving to CB. The guy is a pure safety. His cover skills will allow UT to stay with their base D against 3 wides without giving anything thing up.

JClif1, your info is a little off. Anderson will probably play some. Dan Williams is probably the best DT on the team. Cory Hall has been ripping JUCO up and will compete for a starting job next fall.

Posted by invisiblekid on May 23, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe it's simple speculation by all involved sjt18. Just to speculate a little more, by your reasoning, would that not be matching Berry against the #3 receiver more often than not? Berry is the most polished and has the best set of skills of any player we have in the secondary. Would it not be feasible to match him against the best WR on the opposing team? I get the thought process of keeping him at safety as well though. It gives them more versatility and has him involved in more plays. As Murray said , I am glad we have him and the other teams don't.

Posted by 99gator on May 23, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it's like anything else....

there are advantages and disadvantages to using berry as a cb or a safety.....

but, that really depends on the personnel of the opponent tenn is matched up against. against a team with only one clear cut stud receiver....i would want berry at cb. against a deep and talented receiving corps....he may be better at safety.

but, imo, i think a great corner (especially in college) is a lot harder to find than a great safety (and more valuable).....especially, if morely can be a great safety as well.

Posted by pdhuff on May 23, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'll bet we have UCLA quaking already.

Load the wagon, don't worry about the mule being blind! Crank up the tanker of koolade and get ready to head West.

Dang, its still a ways thru the doldrums before we slaughter the Bruins.

99gator, who does Fla open with, Presbyterian or ETSU? Or do they play Alcorn St twice?

Posted by 99gator on May 23, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff

hawaii
miami, fl
bye week
@ tennessee
mississippi
@ arkansas
LSU
bye week
Georgia
@ vandy
sc
the citadel
@ fsu

Posted by pdhuff on May 23, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99gator, is that Citadel game a home and home series? LOL

The Arkie, LSU and Ga looks interesting.

Thanks for the info, anything of note in the doldrums is interesting.

Posted by 99gator on May 24, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pdhuff

actually forgot to slip in a home game against ky before georgia

Posted by sjt18 on May 26, 2008 at 5:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

invisible, Berry isn't the best cover guy on the team. That is probably Vinson or Rogan. I'm not saying Berry is bad at all but he's a safety. If you think back to last year, Vinson took to CB pretty naturally. He made mistakes but looked like that's where he belongs. Berry struggled until they moved him to safety where he fell right in.

Posted by sjt18 on May 26, 2008 at 5:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes pdhuff... your sarcasm is really, REALLY fitting concerning UCLA... a team that lost about half of its two deep, 15 or so starters, and their statistical leaders in tackles, sacks, int's, receptions, and reception yardage... oh and a back that contributed about 1000 yards.

Neuheisel and Chow may pull of a miracle but UCLA will be at a distinct personnel disadvantage against UT.

Posted by sjt18 on May 26, 2008 at 5:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh pd, don't let the facts get in the way of spinning everything negative, OK?

Posted by sjt18 on May 26, 2008 at 5:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Best OOC schedule I've seen UF play in awhile... mated well with an easier in conference schedule.

pdhuff, see why I've been saying that UF and not UGA wins the East if they get past UT?

Posted by pdhuff on May 26, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18-Is their situation worse than returning D-linemen off a 11th ranked unit?

I just think it'll be a more competitive game than many think or are ready for.Our recent forays into the land of fruits and nuts have been less than stellar.

I would attacked Tenn with 4-7 yd passes forcing the LBs to cover ala Bama last year. Olsen with no pressure could look lke Manning.

I would not call it a miracle if UCLA wins the opener. Hope not, but we really have to step it up on QB pressure. Watching our d-attacking is like a death of a 1000 cuts.

I think Ga beats Fla again this year.

Be well.

Posted by sjt18 on May 26, 2008 at 7:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think UT's D was poor primarily due to being thin and young in the secondary. I hope I'm right. I also think that Williams and Bolden this year will be better than they were last year. The DE's will be more athletic and notably faster. I still have no idea why Reynolds remained a starter all year.

I HOPE UT's D is better but either way... Yes. UCLA's situation is much, much worse. They lost their best players off of a team that went 6-7 losing to BYU in a pre-Christmas bowl game. They lost half the players out of that two deep (IOW's half the guys actually talented enough to get on the field).

fwiw, I don't hope UT's D is better because I care about Fulmer or Chavis or their job security... it is purely because I want to see UT do well. I'm not even bothered by the carping about Fulmer for his sake... only because I believe 100% that it at best does the program no good and at worst does significant harm in recruiting.

Posted by pdhuff on May 26, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sjt18-how much longer you gonna be on the nite shift?

My nite shift starts about 9:30 pm and lasts till about 3:30am on. Ma says I snore, but I believe she's hearing herself or her attack chihuahua.

How would you like to have your future riding on a bunch of 18-20 year olds with a ball that doesn't bounce straight?

How many days, Ashley?

Posted by jamesd1628 on May 27, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hooker, you need to review your use of "everyday".