Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Perriloux owned Foolmore.

Posted by iowavol on May 2, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Surprised Miles did this. Perrilloux was only on his fifth chance. Just wait - Adams will write one of his esoteric articles bestowing the virtuous Miles as the role model of all coaches.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker had 8 chances.

Posted by DennisVols on May 2, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is Fulmers fault that any college football player ever messes up. Adams said so.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Stuck on stupid

Posted by 2000man on May 2, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why couldn't he have been suspended for the SECCG? Damn!

Posted by brownsvillevol on May 2, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

probably should have 2000 but then that wouldn't have gave them a shot at the sec and national title would it.

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow. You win a NC, you have a chance to be the starting QB for one of the best teams in the nation, you have the opportunity to meet the president of the united states and you blow it because you are too stupid to show some humility.

I'm all for second chances, but this guy is an idiot. Come see me after you've done what D Moreley did and we'll talk.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 11 a.m.

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Posted by cjraney on May 2, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This clears the way for all of General Fritter's prognostications to be fulfilled. UT will hoist the Sears Trophy after setting an NCAA single-season record for most INTs returned for TDs. Beware the Goon Squad.

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And Kris4UT has officially made this website equivalent to a middle school classroom.

LOL

Posted by murrayvol on May 2, 2008 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Perriloux didn't write the book on idiocy but he could be a footnote. I don't see him doing what Morley did marc_ash.

One of the many "directional institutions" in Bayou Country will likely pick up his contract.

Posted by cjraney on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tiger-
Come on now, workinlikeheck and her fellow hens accomplished that long, long ago. Kris4UT simply seems to realize that juveniles don't respond to grown-up talk.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not sorry....all I wanna do is read about our Vols, but instead I have to read his dumbass comments on EVERY damn article written...seriously every one of them....it was old 2 months, 4 months and 6 months ago.....Workin is obviously not a Vol fan, but somebody who has nothing better to do than write retarded comments about our coach....who by the way is going nowhere no matter how much you don't like him.

Posted by Volchaz on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a waste, he'll end in working at one of those casinos, washing dishes. Terrible talent to throw away.

Posted by VOLstuckINky on May 2, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

you want fries with that ............

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Perrilloux is just misunderstood...

Posted by Lofton4Three on May 2, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Counterfeit ring huh? Guess the educations in Louisiana actually do help you "make" money in the real world.

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So if you don't like Fulmer and think he needs to step aside for the best of the program then you are not a Vol fan?

Posted by vol4jesus on May 2, 2008 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommyjack 10:35 hit wurkinlikehekylnjekyl on the nail with his comment. He need wd40 for the brain to free him from being stuck. The only Brain WD40 I've found that unstuck me from same dilemma was/is the Bible. Cures all man created ills when used as prescribed daily. Mr. Perrilloux is not washed up....needs BrainWD40 help like all of us.

Posted by abnermc on May 2, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

James Banks

Posted by agentorange on May 2, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i'm sure adams thinks les miles should be fired now.

Posted by hcjournals on May 2, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris-

You do need to tap on the brakes a little bit. But you are dead on that workin is a jerk, self hating, bore. He doesn't care about the Vols like he should. He wants to be confrontational. Must have lost big time in his first marriage............

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No that's that what that means at all....it just means I'm tired of reading the same damn comments over and over again, either come up with something new or quit bashing him all together...I could care less wether you like Fulmer or not, it's my opinion that some Vol fans don't know how good they have it with him, but each is entitled to their own....

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals, you're right...FAG might have been a bit harsh....I would like to retract that word and let everyone implant their own here __________

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wahhhhhhhh....quit reading my comments. It's really that simple. kris you are going to have to do better than that with regard to the namecalling. I've been called far worse and it really doesn't phase me.

Yeah, I lost big in that first marriage. What's the divorce rate anyhow? That's right about 50%. So half the people that get married get divorced? I'm not divorced so this doesn't even apply to me anyeay. I don't see this as being relevant to anything we are discussing.

Like I told some other people the other day. It's going to be a long, long summer and I hope you'll be able to handle it.

Posted by pdhuff on May 2, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sad but true, he'll be this way (attitude) his entire life.

As he matures, hopefully, he'll remember that Smith & Wesson put an end to most knife fights.

Or as big Fletch says, "A hard head makes for a tender a##".

Wish him the best. Needs to listen to vol4jesus.

Posted by jmatt62 on May 2, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We're with you Kris. Workin needs to go away.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris, you hit the nail on the head with this one:

"who by the way is going nowhere no matter how much you don't like him"

I would consider 10 years with no SEC title and trips to the Outhouse and Peach Bowls "nowhere".

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I dunno, I kinda thought FAG is about as low as you can go...but you're right, I'm sure you've been called much worse....that's something to be proud of! Not that I really care, but it might be interesting to here who you, workin, think SHOULD be the coach of the University of Tennessee?? If Fulmer were to leave tomorrow, who would you replace him with???

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kris with a "k". That's really cute.

Posted by shipperman on May 2, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris, you say we don't know how good we have it with fulmer? Bwaaaaaaaaah...A championship in 98, and a VERY lucky SEC East last year. I love UT football, but until Fulmer retires, we will never be great

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

kris with a "k" (that's really cute by the way), the usage of that word was en vogue all the way back in the 90s, just like Foolmore. It's not really accepted in most civilized/educated environments these days.

Posted by wjackson on May 2, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey! JerkinLikeHeck is in the House. Everybody can go home now.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, I've here awhile. Thanks for showing up though.

Posted by wjackson on May 2, 2008 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've here a while? Looks like JerkinLikeHeck is typin with one hand again.

Posted by wjackson on May 2, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

See, I tried typing with one hand.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 2, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yawn, Foolmore is laughing at all of you eating crème de la Fritters in Jackson Hole

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

it's hilarious to know you think the crap you post on this site is "civilized/educated"....

ship, as I already stated, everybody is entitled to their own opinion of Flumer and I could care less wether you like him or not.....but everybody had a "lucky" year last year....the National Champions were "lucky" to get into the NC game....You may be right to think Fulmer needs to be replaced, only time will tell that, but my argument is until that time comes, he will not leave the University unless he wants to, so losers like workin need to quit bitching about it.

Posted by UTfan4life on May 2, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

first its fulmer or foolmore not flumer(what?)

secondly, Ryan needs to come to UT, so we can get more arrests/players kicked off/lose scholarships, (YEA AWESOME MAN!)

no seriously what an idiot.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Flumer!! That's a new one!!! It's not even a word. Hence, the educated part of my post. LOL!!!!!

Jackson, you need both hands to type if that's all you got.

Posted by wjackson on May 2, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you Kris. However. As you feed these guys, they continue. Just joke about jerkin. It's fun. It is a different day and age in college football. Not every school wins 10 or more games a year or wins championships every year. And it is supposed to be that way. Parity. I like being a Vol fan and supporting what we have. We have our ups and downs. But I will always celebrate the wins and forget about the losses. It's just a game. Go Vols!!!

Posted by TurboFan on May 2, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Callin someone a FAG isn't so bad is it? FAG is an acronym isn't it? Fulmer Aggitated Gluteus?

Vol4jesus, why did you bring me an my brain in to this? LOL

On with the show.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Looks like kris with a "k" is getting posts removed!!! LOL!!!!!!!

I am also honored that 75% of your posts are directed at me.

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 12:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jim Bob Cooter was a better QB than Perrilloux.

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wjackson -

So we shouldn't strive to be a school that a 9-3 regular season is a disappointment and not an accomplishment and where a 10-2 record is the norm? Where we get mad when the Capital One Bowl is out destination instead of having to beg and plead (and get special deals cut by our AD) to make to Outback Bowl?

Wow, how the standards have fallen.....

No wonder we're a second tier SEC now. The majority of the fans are fine with it.

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

listen up everyone ... workin' was the same way when he was CRVOL and VOLCR ... and what ever he decides to call himself next time... save your finger strength for his WI... nah I won't stoop to his level... just keep posting how you're posting.... it's nice to see that 80% of Vol fans hate this thing that calls himself workin'. Now wait for it ... he's going to be all hardcore and post something about me now... oh no please don't post toward me Workin' ... I don't want to be "owned" bwah ha ha ha ha ha.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's harder to win 10 games nowadayswhen we play more games than we did 10 years ago, especially when you consider that the 4th non-conference game is a home game vs. Wyoming, ULL, etc. Riiiiiggghhhtt.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Boa = yawn

Only 80% hate me? I guess I have some more work to do.

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 12:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

murrayvol,

I agree. The sad thing is, not many folks do or have done what Moreley have. It is hard to change from being a priviliged spolied child into a responsible man. However, it isn't that hard....people just don't want to put in the work. Sad too, because it is often much easier to just tighten up and make amends, than to try and buck the system.

He may or may not learn his lesson. I wish him the best. Now it's time for him to learn on his own. Give his scholarship to someone who want's to be successful.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tiger, he's not saying we're all contempt in not winning the "big one" just saying only one team can do it every year...just one, that leaves 100 some odd teams that dont win it.....and to win 9 or 10 games in the SEC East, the toughest division in the toughest conference in the whole damn country is amazing, nothing less.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 2, 2008 at 12:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spam: ??????????????????????? 'nuff said.

I too would like to hear workin's suggestions for a new coach. Or perhaps he just thinks any old Joe at half the cost would be better.... A valid opinion, but it is one that I have to disagree with. Good lord, WHAT IS THIS JUNK ON TNT?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wouldn't classify most Division I football players as being priviledged, spoiled children.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that is a good question, for all the people who despise fulmer, who should be the coach?

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A horse is a horse ofcourse ofcourse and no one can talk to a horse ofcourse unless ofcourse this horse ofcourse is the famous Mr. ?

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Go Vols... has anyone heard anything new about the incoming freshmen/juco/ex fla.state players?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's kind of hard to believe that he's going to finish out the spring semester. I mean, there are is what 1 week left in the semester? His classes are probably over and has to take a few exams if he has any. I guess if you didn't go to college like thunder thighs Ashley you wouldn't really know how the whole semester thing works.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

boa:
word around the campfire is that he is at pellissippi state finishing up this semester, since fsu didn't release him from his scholarship, ut can't technically "talk" about him. this is coming from his roommate who is the little brother of a good friend.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris asked workin a legitimate question an hour ago and I'm still looking for the answer: "...(who) SHOULD be the coach of the University of Tennessee?? If Fulmer were to leave tomorrow, who would you replace him with???"

Don't call anyone names, just answer the question.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 2, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly, I would like to hear your thoughts about where the future should be, not just the inadequacies of the present. So far I have disagreed with you while respecting your right to an opinion. Change for changes sake isn't worthwhile, so allow me to keep respecting your opinion by supporting it.

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cool stuff.. gratzi chrslyp

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WorkinLikeHeck,

I'm assuming you are responding to my comment about the privileged/spolied children. I want to clarify that I didn't say "most D I players were". I wasn't even referring to athletes at all for that matter. What I did say is that it was "hard to change from a privileged spoiled child to a man." I believe that statement is true (even aside from athletics).

I believe the actions that Perrilloux displayed were extremely childish and that it was in part due to arrogance (IMO traits of someone who is spoiled and privileged). So, again I was not making any reference to DI football players or athletes in general.

His behavior dictated my statement...which I believe is spot on.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

boa:
forgot to mention, should be enrolled at ut this summer. then you'll probably hear more about him.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I already answered this a few months ago on here. Thanks for keeping up with the time aspect of it though. I am glad my opinion is that important for you to want and wait around for.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just as I thought...

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gratzi again chrslyp.... and for the rest of you.... yall just got sizerved by "workin'" and don't you forget it... he's got crazy mad skills on the keyboard. (whip 'em workin' whip 'em good)

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris -

Who said win a national title every year? I just want a program that averages 10 regular season wins a year, wins a conference title once every 4 years, and makes a BCS bowl 2 out of every 5. That means split with UGA/Florida, lose to a team in the west, and take care of business oout of conference.

Yes, some years we might lose 3, some years we might lose 1. But give me a break that what we have now (since 2001) is sufficient.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's what I figured marc, but Perriloux was not spoiled or priviledged. His arrogance came from being the "man", the 5 star recruit, the best, etc. and hearing it from his posse/entourage from childhood. He probably would have been served well to go far away from home. He was too close to his friends and friends to close to Baton Rouge (probably about 35 minutes or so).

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rusty_shackleford,

You post a good questions (one that I've asked before to the Fulmer "naysayers"). Who would be a good fit for UT. Some of the names that floated around last season were interesting, but have since moved on. Kippy Brown was an option, but wanted to keep the NFL option opened. Better fit for him. Rodriguez was mentioned, but I don't think would have been a good fit at UT. I personally don't think he will be that great for UM anytime soon. He might since he has a talent machine, but it will be tough to get past O. State any time soon. Norm Chow was thrown around,but taking an OC job at UCLA says a lot to me. Would have thought if he was going back to the college ranks, it would have been as a HC.

Honestly Rusty, I came up with the same answer I had last season...I don't know that anyone AT THE TIME would have done a better job than Coach Fulmer. Now? Hmmmm, I think I might have to say the same thing. All the coaches I listed have already made moves and aren't really options anymore. I suppose as crazy as it seems, I probably wouldn't mind if Spurrier came to town. Other than that, I don't see anyone else as a realistic option who would put the Vols in a drastically better possition than they are now.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rusty, he's got no answer....validating the fact that he's only here to bitch and complain...

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That's okay Boa, I really don't need any extra encouragement. I appreciate the gesture though. Maybe we can be boys one day and meet up at a game. Holla!

Posted by jcherrie on May 2, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's sad and another blackeye on SEC football. Miles did the right thing.

Unfortunately, the attitude of players involved in these scandals is that they can do whatever they want and if they get caught they'll transfer to Division 1-AA.

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

alfrizzle097,

I think the future is good for UT. The Vols have been able to maintain a strong strong program over the years despite many changes. Although the program has not had a title since 98, it has maintained a high level of football in the hardest conference in America for years (save the 5-6 season).

Fulmer and the University have done a lot to make changes over the years. After the 5-6 season, changes in the O had to be made. Firing Sanders was the best thing UT could have ever done. Cut was brought in and did well IMO. But...more changes needed to be made. House was cleaned. I think Fulmer has done 1. What he has been asked to do and 2. What he should have done. The game is about change, and Fulmer understands that.

I think the Vols will see what happens this season. Seems the philosophy is changing as well as the personel. I think it is an exciting time for Vol football. I believe we will see a lot in the next couple of years of how successful the experiment is with the new coaches in place. I'm optimistic.

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HECK YEAH >>>> I've Waited so long for this moment... we can grill kittens and throw trash at kids and old folks... this rocks ... I'm gonna go fire up my other MAC and tell my "world of warcraft" buds that I get to hang out with workin' bring some chinese checkers ok TED ... and howbout bringin' the second coolest person I know... Silent_But_Deadly.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on May 2, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin
I'm here to jump into your crap.
I wish you would really answer the question that Kris presented to you about if Fulmer left today who would you want as coach? Since you are so educated and know a lot about football.

I'm the one guys he told it was going to be a long summer b/c he was going to post this childish garbage about Fulmer the team and anything else he can find to complain about.
By the way workin I think it is more like 95% hate your stupid comments. As for me I don't like your negative comments but it does make things interesting so keep up the good work maybe one day you will make the wrong person mad and they will kick you off.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc, given the fact that most of us despise little stevie superior, you can't take away what he accomplished at UF. Ya gotta remember that the lizards were down and out when he arrived. Anyway, I see LSS losing steam at USC and will probably retire rather than go elsewhere.

I'm afraid the times have changed in CF. There aren't gonna be too many coaches like Paterno, Bowden, and yes, Fulmer who stay at a school for 15+ years, win games, go Bowling, plus all the other crapola that goes with the job.

Posted by agentorange on May 2, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

supposedly, he failed a drug test.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tiger, Hey, I didn't say I like watching them lose 3 or 4 games a year...hell I scream and yell at my TV as much as you do....and no I don't think losing to fla or bama is satisfactory either, but the top 5 or 6 teams in the SEC could go to any conference and finish 1 or 2....and probably make it look easy. So to lose 3 games playing THE elite teams in the country week in and week out isn't bad when you stop and think about it.

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Better bring some swimmies mjohnsonvols there's a lot to jump into.

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WorkinLikeHeck,

I think we are both talking about the same thing, just viewing it differently.

I believe Per was spoiled and privileged. I'm not referring to how much money he had or whether or not he had a silver spoon in his mouth. I was referring to his mentality. People that are "the man" as you suggest (and I agree with) have a choice to make. They can continue to live life with humility and for others, or they can live life only for themselves. IMO, he did the latter.

I think when you put yourself before other people, you are 100% destined for failure. Even the Bible gives us that one.

Posted by wjackson on May 2, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems everyone dodges the question about who would be a good replacement for Fulmer. I can't think of a coach who has as much of a winning tradition for as long. We all know that football teams go in cycles. And yes, I was saying that there is no team that wins a championship every year. except USC in the weak PAC 1+ 9. I am happy with where we are. There are always improvements to be made. But Tennessee is a great team. And the SEC is tough conference. Ask Ohio State. Anyone can find something wrong with any team. And probably the same gripes that are on here. That's why I choose to celebrate the wins and forget the losses. It's just a game. I don't live and die by it. My life successes aren't dictated by our football team. I will always bleed orange. And I do understand that many things, like injuries. The fact these kids are at an age where you can't always count on their behavior. And many other factors go into each season. I expect the best. But I enjoy watching a quality team every year. Oh yeah. What were the names of replacements?

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wjackson, I'm with you. Survive a couple of real problems in this world and football games take on the proper perspective. Enjoy it, but don't base your own self worth on something you can't control!

Posted by GreerVol22 on May 2, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ron Zook for coach! OMG, where are my meds?

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rusty_shackleford,

By no means to I take away what spurrier did at UF (and is even doing at USC). That is why I said I wouldn't mind if he came to town. He's one heck of a coach, and I think he could pull some good talent into Knoxville if he were the Vols coach.

I do agree that coaches are lifelongers anymore. Least that remains to be seen I suppose. But I don't think it is a loyalty thing anymore as much as it is a dollars issue. Money is getting so insane that it is hard for coaches to not go to the next spot for a payday (see Saban).

However, I think Fulmer is doing EXACTLY what he needs to do to continue his career (and that is make changes). Bowden and Joe Pa haven't made changes (well, Bowden just in the last year or so) in years. They expected to get talent, and ran the system that worked for them. Now, talent isn't just going to ND, Penn ST FSU or Miami anymore. Schools have to work, and the system is changing. I think Fulmer is doing what he needs to do by staying fresh and making changes. I like what I'm seeing, at least from a philosophical perspective that is.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 1:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol 12:51: Unfortunately, you are 100% correct.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 2, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash,
I agree with you 100%. I am excited about this year. I just welcome a discussion versus a one handed typing class...

Posted by marc_ash on May 2, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wjackson,

I've presented my opinion on this just a couple of posts ago. However, the question is answered differently by the way you asked it. You said who would be a good replacement instead of who would be a REALISTIC replacement.

IMO, there are some coaches that I feel would do well at UT. Either for their coaching abilities or their recruiting (or both). I think Meyer would be a great fit. He's been successful and has a good recruiting base. I think Les Miles would do well. I believe almost anyone would love to have Pete Carroll or even Jim Tressell. However, none of these is even close to realistic.

If you take the coaches who are available, I'm back to my original argument which is no one would be "better" than what Fulmer is now.

I am a Fulmer supporter, but moreso I'm a Vols supporter. I feel CPF did what he needed to do in making changes. I like that, and feel confident the Vols are heading in the right direction. I could complain, but it could always be much worse.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 2, 2008 at 1:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was hoping for a response to the question but oh well (just through a URL link to your former comment). Time to go get on with life and beat down a final exam. Wish me luck if you would be so kind...

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ -

I don't let me life be dictated by UT sports, but I expect more than what is produced.

Case in point - SC last year. I felt like we lost that game, and I look around and people are hugging and screaming like I did when we won the NC in 98. I see the paper the next day and it's a picture of Hamilton and Fulmer celebrating a miraculous achievement....and we'd just blown a 21-0 lead and beaten a team that would eventually finish 6-6 and miss a bowl.

Sorry, maybe I'm just a spoiled 90s fan, but that just doesn't cut it.

Posted by UTfan4life on May 2, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gerald Warren is the ex FSU player enrolling to UT correct?
Funny how yall all are against workin, im with ya bud! (idk)

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen to following the money. It's getting insane! And the younger coaches are taking care of themselves...don't blame 'em.

The Top 10 aren't the top ten anymore. Geez, when Kentucky is talking about winning the SEC, things have definitely changed! ;-)

BTW, we need to start a pool on when saban will leave bama. I'll take 2009...before the Auburn game.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 2, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly, last comment. Cut the Roane County comments. I am from Roane County and some of the best people I know are from Kingston and Harriman. I do take offense and that is crossing a line.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ut:
brandon warren is from fsu, you're thinking of gerald williams the juco transfer that we recruited like three years ago.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chicken farmer? LMAO!!! That fits!

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tiger, I must have felt the same way you did after that game...and the vandy game and the kentucky game, you're right we used to blow those teams out of the water and it just doesn't feel right squeaking by and stealing one from them....but that happened everywhere in college football last year, and with the way last season went for everybody, it was still easy to celebrate after those victories because of the way we won them...because those kind of games were a dime a dozen last year accross the country and we still came out on top.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

as far as kentucky and vandy go, i am not so sure it's that ut is getting worse, yet, that kentucky and vandy are getting better. hell, there are kids in our own backyard who are going d1 and would have come to ut five or six years ago, now they're going to places like kentucky, just look at how many alcoa guys have committed to uk. i believe dustin lyndsay, who committed to ut, has decided he wants to go to uk now, even though he can't get in because of grades.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol: Still with you. Mediocrity is one thing...accepting it is quite another. Selah

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I answered this question months ago. Sorry you can't remember what I said or if you weren't around for it.

It doesn't suprise me that Ashley is at RTM on gamedays. That's the biggest collection of necks this side of a Bristol night race.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

working:
i believe re-answering the question would save you more time than writing out that you have already answered the question.

Posted by auttat on May 2, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Kris -

Who said win a national title every year? I just want a program that averages 10 regular season wins a year, wins a conference title once every 4 years, and makes a BCS bowl 2 out of every 5. That means split with UGA/Florida, lose to a team in the west, and take care of business oout of conference.

Yes, some years we might lose 3, some years we might lose 1. But give me a break that what we have now (since 2001) is sufficient."

And I want world peace and a fat bank account so I can play golf everyday. So, since I want that I should be entitled to it, right?

UT went to a BCS(I know it wasn't a BCS in '97) bowl 3 years in a row, and was in a position to go in '01, '04, and '07. Most logical fans are saying that they are not that far off. For the 1st time since WWII there is new blood in the system. Can we all chill and see how it plays out? Besides workin, of course. He is he!! bent on making it a "long summer"

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AJ Suggs won more games than Ryan Perrilloux.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It was a pretty long answer chrys. Sorry, should have joined earlier.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 2 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sooooo, what's so bad about a little whining? Gentlemen: Bitch if you got'em.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sure you do Ashley. RTM is neck central on gameday. Way to make fun of Roane County.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

working:
surely you could throw out a name or two, no explanation, just a name.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Names do no good without an explanation because people here will just dismiss it right away even though they no nothing about a particular coach and are blinded by their Foolmore-love.

Posted by tnbanker_govols on May 2, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

News Flash....."Change at the Top Needed at LSU"

Posted by GreerVol22 on May 2, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

alfrizzle, hey man, I'm originally from Cocke County. When the revenuers showed up I relocated to SC. I for one cannot make fun of anyones county of origin.

Posted by orngejuice on May 2, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why do you people care who he wants as head coach?

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 2:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's easier to throw rocks than catch 'em, right CR?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not if you can catch 'em and throw them back harder, rusty.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on May 2, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So basically you don't have a better person for the job that is available.
Don't give me the crap sorry you didn't read it before or didn't join how stupid and childish is that. Who is your choice to replace Fulmer give me a name? If you can't then we all know deep down you love Fulmer.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Or easier if you ignore the question and change the subject....kind of like a politician.

Posted by orngejuice on May 2, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

goodness, how pathetic you people are.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ornge:
we're asking the guy a question, what's so pathetic about it.

Posted by orngejuice on May 2, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no, you're begging. why do u care? haven't you noticed that he's just a little pessimistic. it doesn't matter. his argument will always be the same until the result is different. swallow the fact that his opinion is different from yours and move on.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this is great...I'll give you one name that could at the very least match what Foolmore has done the last 9 years. Odds are he would do better than that though. He isn't a clear cut #1 or the best coach in America, although I think he is very, very good football coach. He's won on every level, at faraway places and made history at Ga Southern, Hawaii, and Navy. Plus, GT only pays him about 1.6 million so he would actually be a realistic get and probably couldn't turn us down if the opportunity presented itself. Besides he was born basicallu on the NC-TN border in Newland, NC so he is basically about as East TN as you can get without being from East TN. Paul Johnson.

Posted by chrslyp on May 2, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

his opinion may not be different than mine, perhaps that's why i want to know.. hell, we're just messing around anyways.

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"they no nothing"?

Most of the people who want Fulmer fired are, in fact, idiots who don't have any remotely realistic suggestions for replacements who would have a decent chance of doing better than Fulmer.
The reason that they don't have any remotely realistic suggestions for replacements is that there are VERY FEW coaches who (A) would come here if Phil was fired and (B) could improve on his record.
If you want the football equivalent of Buzz Peterson, yes, you could find a replacement for Fulmer very easily.
A few examples: spurrier would NEVER come here (the hatred goes back to the '60's, and he's washed up anyway-- Fulmer owns him, 3 out of the last 4 meetings btw), Pete Carroll wouldn't leave USC for anywhere else (he has the best/easiest coaching gig in the country-- patsy conference and easy recruiting due to great climate, pretty girls, and wealth of in-state talent in CA), urban meyer knows he couldn't recruit well enough in-state as a UT coach to run his system successfully (similar to the reason that he spurned Notre Dame's advances in favor of coaching at florida).
I'm looking forward to next season-- the Vols will have the best secondary in the nation, Chavis will have the linebackers ready as always, and the offense is going to be new and exciting. How many days, Ashley?

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 2, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thunder from down under hips,

Can you adjust your countdown to include only 122 more days of fritter stuffin' till football season?

Thanks,

Posted by orngejuice on May 2, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

he has granted your wish...cattle

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBlwLXgqw0g

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin'-- Paul Johnson took a bowl-bound division 1A school, and lost to Delaware last season. (They lost to Ball State, too.)

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workinline: Exactly...I, PD, and a couple others have said that for months...too late now, I guess.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workinline: Exactly...I, PD, and a couple others have said that for months...too late now, I guess.

Posted by Lofton4Three on May 2, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The best thing to do is ignore the cat. He is just one of those people that will post negatively towards anything. If everyone on this board would just skip his posts and not read them, then he/she will go away. He/She has obviously never played any sport or coached any sport outside of his/her daughter's tee ball team. Asking his/her advice on who they want to coach the UT football team is about the equivalent to asking Stevie Wonder's advice of a girl's looks. The truth is, if we wrote down Fulmer's stats on a piece of paper without his name next to it, people would say that is the best possible fit. I don't agree with everything he does, but I'll be the last to make screennames to degrade the man. Too bad others can't get past playing 3rd grade games.

Just my 2 cents

Posted by 1974Vol on May 2, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow! It is ironic that this article appears the same day that another reveals Chris Lofton's battle with cancer. Talk about your contrasts in character...

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Johnson is a fine coach and did well at GSU and Navy (small programs). He loved a power run offense at both which is very old news in the SEC. Not sure what he runs now. 7-6 last year at GT isn't setting the woods on fire, though. And he lost to UGA and Fresno in the bowl. Folks around here don't like losing to the arch-enemy and bowl games!

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Rusty. He was at Navy last year

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

spam, get back to me when you have more than that. How many coaches can post a winning records 5 out of 6 years at Navy and go to 4 bowl games in that span? Keep in mind, he inherited a Navy team that was winless the year before he took over.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good one rusty, LOL!!!!!!!!!!

I am glad Lofton4three is caught up on my playing experience now.

Posted by rusty_shackleford on May 2, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I stand corrected. I thought he took over last year.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Furthermore, he will run his version of the veer and make it work at Tech. Running the ball down your opponents throat never goes out of style.

Posted by Kris4UT on May 2, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Check this out...I think it's about Workin's old lady....www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBlwLXgqw0g

(you may have to copy and paste)

Posted by General_Watermelon on May 2, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Give the kid another chance and a fritter and everything will be just OK. Just ask Fulmer.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When he was at Hawaii his offenses threw the ball. At GA Southern he ran the ball with the option like he did at Navy. He'll adjust his offense to whatever suits the personnel to be the most successful.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kris with a "k" has figured out the phenomena of a "live link" it seems. It's really not that hard.

Posted by auttat on May 2, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME RECORD/TICKETS
August 31 at Temple W 30-19 1-0
September 7 at No. 15 Rutgers L 41-24 1-1
September 15 Ball State L 34-31 1-2
September 22 Duke W 46-43 2-2
September 29 Air Force W 31-20 3-2
October 10 at Pittsburgh W 48-45 4-2
October 20 Wake Forest L 44-24 4-3
October 27 Delaware L 59-52 4-4
November 3 at Notre Dame W 46-44 5-4
November 10 at North Texas W 74-62 6-4
November 17 Northern Illinois W 35-24 7-4
December 1 Army W 38-3 8-4
December 20 vs Utah L 35-32 8-5

Can someone name one school that would look good on our OOC to Mr. Workin? He really beat the cream of the crop, huh?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This will be humorous to see how many times Kris with a "k" posts links without them being a "live link". Keep telling people to copy and paste.

Posted by auttat on May 2, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My personal favorite is the barn burner with Mighty Duke 46-43. Didn't that one go to OT? We don't count those around here, ya know.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on May 2, 2008 at 2:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WORKINLIKEHECK.

How the eff do you know anything about Perrilloux's economic status? Do you even know where he went to HS without Googling it? Have you ever driven through his neighborhood? Some of you clowns haven't a clue but pose like you do LMAO!!

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

that's a nice try auttat, but who said Navy was the cream of the crop? They are beating who they are supposed to beat and are beating teams that have a ton of more talent than they do. I mean what is Navy's average recruiting ranking? They finished 118th last year. Not bad for a bunch of 2 star or zero star kids. Keep trying.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

East St. John...I am very familiar with the area.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He could do better than Foolmore has the last 9 years. Hmmm, not a good gameday coach vs. a good game day coach. Imagine what Paul Johnson could do with some talent?

Posted by pdhuff on May 2, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, Deo Vindice.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't have a boss, LOL!!!!!!!!

Posted by UTfan4life on May 2, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i couldve sworn i saw an article about Gerald Warren coming to UT, like a transfer idk.. ill try to find it

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UTfan,

Gerald Williams - JUCO from Cali
Brandon Warren - transfer from FSU that's at Pellissippi State taking classes

Posted by mjohnsonvols on May 2, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow!
Paul Johnson as our next coach.
Let us look at Fulmer VS Paul.
9 seasons as a head coach 99-34 .744 not bad going up agianst Furman, Citadel, Temple, North Texas, Delaware wow some big teams in there that he has beat.
Fulmer was 91-19 in his first 9 seasons to try and make this fair. He has beat teams like Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Florida ST. The teams are terrible. Now he is 147-45 still has a better winning percentage. Wait you have me sold Paul beat Duke last year and he has beaten Army and App st in the past. I'm with you now Workin let's fire foolmore for Paul Johnson.

Workin you my friend are an idiot.

Posted by volfan5521 on May 2, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HA HA HA

Posted by UTfan4life on May 2, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Brandon Warren thats it thanks man! couldnt hit the name, is he coming to UT though?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm an idiot according to mjohnsonvols because he wants to compare what Fulmer did 9 years ago as opposed to what he has done the last 9 years and compare that side by side with who Paul Johnson has beaten. Thank God we weren't so short sighted when the only 2 teams Pearl had beaten of any significance (using yout logic) was an Alabama basketball team.

Yeah, winning consistently at Ga Southern (who plays in the toughest I-AA conference in the country) and then at Navy (especially at Navy with what is no doubt one of the least talented teams in the country) is easy.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UTfan4life ,If the grades are there,it is about 90% completed.No one from the UT staff can speak w/ him untill he is finished at Pellissippi.His hardship to the ncaa will be filed by UT in June.Once that has passed, and it has been said it will, he can enroll and join the team in Aug.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on May 2, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes folks, there you have it.

Workin is "very familiar" with St. John the Baptist Parish. Knows all about the economics of the area, the quality of housing, the neighborhood that Ryan P. grew up in, even who his HS principal was.

I've lived in SE Louisiana for nearly a decade, and I've driven through Reserve maybe 5 times. Reserve, LA is a little podunk town in the middle of swamp and bayou country between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Not much to see but sugar cane fields around the area.

It has a typical mixture of wealth and poverty that you will find in Louisiana. However, there are lots of plants in this part of the country, and most chemical plant employees in this heavily unionized area earn as much if not more than some lawyers and even doctors.

I have no idea if Ryan P. is from a rich family or a poor family. I have no idea if his dad is a professional or if his dad is a plant man. He may be unemployed for all I know. But I gaurantee that nobody has published Ryan P.'s family's tax returns or done an expose on his upbringing. It almost sounds like a touch of racism driving Workin's comments.

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In Workin's defense, Paul Johnson was a better suggestion than I was expecting, but Phil doesn't lose to cream puffs like Delaware, Ball State, Tulsa, Stanford, Tulane, Rice, etc. I'm surprised that you would want a coach that does.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on May 2, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We will see what Paul Johnson does at GA TECH against a week ACC conference. He will not win his division in the next 4 or 5 years.
You bring in different sports all the time on a post. We are talking Football not basketball but I'm a idiot for comparing the the coaches first 9 years. I know 1-AA is tough man I tell you SEC VS 1AA Southern Conference man I really don't thing LSU or Florida could compete in the conference and I reall think TN would have a loosing record in the conference. Your right 1AA is tougher than the SEC.
Your a JOKE dude.
Oh know I called you a Joke now go cry on the post somebody else called you a name.

Posted by UTfan4life on May 2, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks savage, helps aton.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 2, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to see thunders myspace page, I bet it would get us all hot and bothered.

Posted by auttat on May 2, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2007 Football Schedule and Results
DATE OPPONENT RESULT/TIME RECORD/TICKETS
September 1 Connecticut L 45-14 0-1 (0-0)
September 8 at Virginia L 24-13 0-2 (0-1)
September 15 at Northwestern W 20-14 1-2 (0-1)
September 22 at Navy L 46-43 1-3 (0-1)
September 29 at Miami (FL) L 24-14 1-4 (0-2)
October 6 Wake Forest L 41-36 1-5 (0-3)
October 13 No.12 Virginia TechL 43-14 1-6 (0-4)
October 27 at Florida State L 25-6 1-7 (0-5)
November 3 No. 25 Clemson L 47-10 1-8 (0-6)
November 10 Georgia Tech L 41-24 1-9 (0-7)
November 17 at Notre Dame L 28-7 1-10 (0-7)
November 24 at North Carolina L 20-14 1-11 (0-8)

I have taken the liberty to point out Duke's record last year. The closest game they played in besides beating Northwestern was against Navy. Workin, please explain how the next great gameday coach at UT can have such a close game with Duke? If he has enough talent to win 8 games, he surely has enough talent to put Duke away soundly. And, please draw the parallel to UT vs. SC, or Vandy or Kentucky. You know, the teams that play in the SEC and 2 of which were ranked higher than UT the majority of the season.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, volfanlsu, I have a friend from high school that coaches at my old high school who has sent 4 players to LSU the past several years (Nick Child, Craig Steltz, Kevin Steltz, and PJ Lonergan). He's done a bunch of camps at LSU and is in pretty constant communication with some of the LSU staff and also hears things from his former players on what is going on from time to time. These coaching camps also feature other high school coaches such as East St. John's and high school coaches like to talk when they get together. Ryan P was a topic of conversation the last few year for obvious reasons.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on May 2, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Argument today Workin have to go now but I will argue with you another day you bash Fulmer.
No hard feelings dude just like to argue with you.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley, the parallel was made that while at Ga Southern, Johnson beat whoever he played. Finished in 1st place in the 5 years he was there in the toughest conference in the division that they played in.

I also wonder why moronjohnsonvols didn't want to post Foolmore's last 9 years coaching which are more relevant today than his first 9 years of coaching.

Let's see Paul Johnson took over a 4-7 GSU team in 1997 and finished in 1st 5 straight years and won 2 national titles. Then he took over NAvy who was 1-20 in the previous 2 years, went 2-10 and then went on to 5 straight winning seasons and 4 bowl games at Navy. Yeah, he can't coach and those are about on the same level as what Fulmer inherited when he took over a team that had won the SEC title 2 out of the last 3 years.

Posted by BOASoldier on May 2, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

actually Ga. Southern didn't beat everyone they faced... they lost to an ETSU team that was pathetic at best ... I remember I was there... that was hillarious... Ga. Southern warmed up by slamming the ball over the goal posts and then had their arse handed to them... kind of a App. State Michigan kinda game.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, that Delaware game was a bad loss for probably 2 equally talented teams...too bad Delaware draws more fans to games than does Temple and who also beat the #1 and #4 ranked teams in 1-AA last year in the playoffs on the road before losing to App State in the title games. Oh, was this the same Delaware that had a 1st round NFl pick as a QB?

Let's see every team Navy played except maybe Northern Illinois has more talent than them right now. Navy had an average recruiting rank of 114. Teams like Temple, Air Force, Army, and Duke were 77th, 89th, 94th, and 69th.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 2, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not ready to see Fulmer go anywhere, but I wonder why Will Muschamp's name hasn't been put in the mix for a head coaching job. His defenses at Auburn have always been incredible. I don't even really understand why the guy went to Texas to be a co-defensive coordinator. It was like a demotion except I'm sure it pays better.

Posted by TommyJack on May 2, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IBleed: You think Texas is a step down from Auburn?

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 2, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet that Flacco dude is going to be a bust. I'll admit I don't know much about him, but every time they show highlights of the guy, they show the same highlight of him throwing up a duck off of the wrong foot across his body late falling out of bounds. If he throws a bunch of passes like that one in the NFL he won't have a very long career.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When you lose 4 conference games in span of 5 years, that's called beating everybody in spite of losing by a FG to a 6-5 ETSU team in the mini-dome.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 2, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ-

I think going from a defensive coordinator to a co-defensive coordinator is a step down. I also think that Auburn could play with Texas any day. Well, maybe any day when they still had Will Muschamp there.

Posted by IBleedOrange444 on May 2, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley-

What is RTM?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RedneckTopMarket on gamedays, rest of the year it's Rocky Top Market.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Workin, I hate to disagree w/ you on Johnson.(however I won't call you any names,lol)Although I think he is a good coach and motivator, he will have to change some of his offensive philosophy to compete in the ACC/SEC type conference.In that offense you can ill afford to fall behind by 10+ and come back.Young men want to be on ESPN highlight reels now a days and that offense is going to be tough to sell on big time athletes.Is he a better coach than CPF,maybe.But I don't think he would be succesfull at Tennessee for the reasons I stated above.CPF is still a good recruiter.I looked at the census for 07' and the only states less populated than Tenn that have programs that have been a sustained success the last 10 yr's are:

Wisconsin(very similar to UT)
Louisiana(gret recruiting base & borders Texas)
Oklahoma(Most of their guys come out of Texas)
Oregon(borders cali)

Scout rated our 05' class #1 Rivals #4
Scout rated our 07' class #4 Rivals #3
That's 2 top 5's in the last 4 yr's in a talent-lacking state.Do I think CPF is the best coach in the conference......No, but I think it would take more than Johnson to outdo CPF.

From a pure coaching standpoit ,here are my top 3 in the SEC:
1.Tommy Tuberville
2.Sylvester Croom
3.Mark Richt

Sorry abou the length.Slow day at the office.

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pretty good analysis, thesavageorange, but Mark Richt (like spurrier) has lost 3 out of the last 4 to Phil, and Croom hasn't had nearly enough success as a head coach to rank him so high.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

His offenses broke 160 school records at Hawaii where they went to their first bowl game and won their first WAC title. He'll adapt to his personnel. RBs and OL will love that offense which will make it easier for a QB to be successful.

Posted by spam247buster on May 2, 2008 at 5:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOVE the rooster sandwich from RTM! Best "drunk food" EVER.

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2 names I have thrown out before-

1. Doug Marrone, OC of the Saints (thank him for the 01 Florida win)
2. Jim Leavitt, South Florida

Workin - I for one like the idea.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

spam247buster ,I can buy that.But the coaching rankings are merely opinion.I will tell you this if Richt doesn't get into the NC game in the next couple of yr's, and doesn't beat the Vols, the GA fan base will start to split just like Tennessee's has.Lord knows SEC fans think the