Posted by CT_VOL on May 2, 2008 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can see Ramar leaving town after the public dismay over his play. But why would Duke leave? Maybe a another medical problem?

Frank

Posted by nivatne on May 2, 2008 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is going on?!?!? Someone have any inside info on this??? Does this open up 2 scholarships??? Are these vacancies we have to fill in this summer w/ the recruits that are left??? Answers, please!!! ANYONE!!!

Posted by dvols on May 2, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bye

Posted by ONUV on May 2, 2008 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

not going to speculate. but this sucks. they hadn't played to their potential yet.

at least we have a really good recruiting class coming in

Posted by cjraney on May 2, 2008 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

dang

Posted by utvol008 on May 2, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow

Posted by jimr07 on May 2, 2008 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fire fulmer

Posted by cat54 on May 2, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would bet that it has to do with a failure to meet acadamic requirements.

Posted by nivatne on May 2, 2008 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Seriously, are we going to look to try and sign a couple more recruits? This really hurts our depth at the guard position.

Posted by LazhilUT on May 2, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And we're screwed...either their failed school or smoked da weeeeeed

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well dang. Not a good couple of days for bball fans.

Ramar....not surprised. Duke...very surprised.

Posted by volfan73120 on May 2, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What a disappointment. Was it academics or something else? It is always sad when young men like this do sometning to lose the gift of a free education.

Posted by chas_turner on May 2, 2008 at 7:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Perhaps that article on the WEB yesterday reporting Ramar's exit and the signing of a Juco guard was right after all? JMO

Posted by TurboFan on May 2, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

“Both were provided every opportunity to succeed here but have not met our expectations."

Sounds like the words used when someone has previously been in trouble and not made it through probation without messing up again. Since there are no arrests involved I'm guessing they failed a test. Probably calculus.

Posted by justisiscumin on May 2, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think I told you people 4 months ago to expect this....pot smokers....they couldn't give it up. This has been an ongoing problem, Chism was on the border, he must have cleaned his act up, good for him.

Posted by TurboFan on May 2, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, I mis-read the quote and the text of the article. Agree that academics are likely. Weren't there rumors before the tournament about players not being eligible?

Posted by wagee12 on May 2, 2008 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Another example of Pearl's immediate action on disipline and academic problems. I doubt that these guys got half as many chances as Coker the Toker. Frankly, Williams has much more long term potential than Crews and Ramar was never going to be a great point guard. Good luck guys, hope you get everything squared away and headed in the right direction at another school.

Posted by yemmusdarb on May 2, 2008 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Duke = probably failed drug test or more "mary jane" found in his apt

Ramar = grades

Posted by invisiblekid on May 2, 2008 at 7:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whew, what a week. Hate to see these guys go, I think they both have it in them to elevate their games but they still have to play by the rules.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 7:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I posted the article from hoopnews yesterday, and then Several insiders said that they talked to the coaches and all of them denied it.Posted below is the original source, from yesterday, of the dismissal of Ramar and scholly offer to Maze.No mention was ever made of Crews.

http://www.hoopsreport.com/news/hoops...

Posted by tigervol9802 on May 2, 2008 at 7:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wonder if they got 6 chances..............

Posted by orangecountry21 on May 2, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this
sucks
we literally have no depth at guard, which is the heart of our offense
looks like the frosh daniel west will run it

Posted by lempga on May 2, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you can't abid by the rules--Goodbye

Posted by GerryOP on May 2, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coach Pearl does not mess around. Follow the rules or hit the road. How refreshing... All is well.

Posted by miamiVOL on May 2, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hope this isnt a trend with Pearl's recruiting classes

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP, Word is this that Ramar andDuke got about as many chances as Coker, and Pearl followed the same guidelines as Fulmer.

Some students on the message boards are saying it's well known that Crews sold marijuana.Word is that Crews is best friends w/ B Vinson.If that's true I hope Vinson isn't involved.

Posted by lastlap on May 2, 2008 at 7:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Great news. Enough is enough. They got way more chances then they deserved. Jail time will be next "IN YOUR FUTURE". There's a time you have to grow up in your life. These are men now not boys. Even though they act like it.

Posted by nicksjuzunk on May 2, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pot. Worth every penny of it. Great investment fellas.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 7:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry, I shouldn't have posted that about Crews.I have no idea if it's true or not and don't like spredding personal rumors.

Good luck guys.I hope you find your way.

Posted by ggriggs939 on May 2, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is an example of the lack of responsibility by the players involved. If it was grades, they apparently could not handle the work. If it was drugs, their need was apparently greater than their desire to succeed in college.
In either case, the players are the losers. I hope they realize they have to follow the rules in whatever endeavor they pursue.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nicksjuzunk ,Uhhh.......Uhhhh,man I forgot what I was going to say.Anyone seen my cheese curls and kool-aid.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Now they are saying a violation of substance abuse policy was a factor.I hate it I really do.

Posted by LifeTimeVOL on May 2, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hate to say it, but it was only a matter of time. It is pretty well-known on campus that they smoke a lot of marijuana. Too bad, they had a big upside but the rules apply to everyone

Posted by stroker on May 2, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Will Adams write a fire BP column and get on talk radio to trash Vol BB in Ga Al or maybe Mich.

Posted by GerryOP on May 2, 2008 at 8 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Could be savage, but I still give Coach Pearl credit for keeping the problems within "the family" until the transgressions exceeded the limits of the rules. Shows respect for his players.

Posted by mtnsvol44 on May 2, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If they are dopeheads then good riddance. Dopeheads are too dumb to ever succeed.

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 8:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerryOP ,I agree w/ that 100%.I feel bad for Bruce.He really cared for these young men.

Posted by IPOrange on May 2, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm confused - the headline clearly states that "Crews and Ramar Smith dismissed; violation of substance abuse policy a factor", but then Coach Pearl would not identify the reason for the dismissals. If drugs aren't the reason for the dismissals for both of these players, then whoever wrote this headline/article has some 'splaining to do.

Posted by BigVolinCarolina on May 2, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sad & not fun for anyone involved. I wish Ramar and Duke the best and that they learn from this.

Posted by cphil on May 2, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So who will they play for now? Penn State or State Pen?

Posted by surlyguy on May 2, 2008 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wonder if Coach Pearl go the JUCO route to get some guard play?

Posted by thesavageorange on May 2, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IPOrange, I don't believe the headline originaly sited the possible substance abuse.That is apparently coming from a KNS source.Like any father would do, I suspect Bruce is still trying to protect his guys.I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce is in his office right now calling around and seeing what he can do to get them in a good situation.

surlyguy ,He has apparently already extended an offer to JUCO all-american Bobby Maze.

Posted by pdhuff on May 2, 2008 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Has the demon weed struck again?

Sad!

Posted by IPOrange on May 2, 2008 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

savage, that makes sense. I see now where the story was updated about an hour later. Either way, it's a sad day for these two young men.

Posted by AllLadyVol on May 2, 2008 at 8:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is such a shame that two guys with such talent would throw their futures away via their immaturity. I do hope they can get their lives straightened out but I applaud Coach Pearl for not allowing their problems to disrupt the rest of the team. You'd think with a guy like Chris Lofton around, they could have learned by his example of what a real man and college athlete is, but some people just never learn.

Posted by LargeOrange on May 2, 2008 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by GerryOP on May 2, 2008 at 7:25 p.m.
"Coach Pearl does not mess around. Follow the rules or hit the road. How refreshing... All is well."

http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2007/o...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/st...

Wonder how many chances Duke got that we don't know about? CBP says it was "problems over a period of time and not one specific incident". Well we know it was at least 2 incidents for Duke. Sounds like a lack of supervision by the coaches, how could Bruce have let this happen? It is not like he has to watch close to 100 players, he only has 25 or so players to watch and keep out of trouble, and he has 3 or 4 assistant coaches, some Grad assistants, trainers, ect. That is about a 3 to 1 ratio or less. Sounds like we need John Adams to step in here.

Posted by philfan on May 2, 2008 at 8:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker the Toker. Pretty funny.

Posted by dogboy on May 2, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's very thoughtful of Duke and Ramar to make room for athletes that really want to be here. Thanks guys and good luck washing cars.

Posted by Laydbakvol on May 2, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do the crime, do the time. It's sad to see anybody to blow what could be the best opportunities of their lives for some stupid, preventable, youthful mistakes, but I can't feel sorry for them either. The team will be better for it. Thanks Coach.

Posted by 98reax on May 2, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Under UT’s drug policy, a player is immediately dismissed following a fourth positive test for marijuana.

I can't believe they get that many chances. That's way too lenient for drugs violations. Those screw ups are not worth keeping. We don't need either on the bball team. How dumb to blow a scholarship on weed.

Posted by rootin4volz on May 2, 2008 at 9:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds to me, from the article, like the wacky weed contributed to a lack of motivation both on the court AND in the classroom.

Posted by gpeck on May 2, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a Haliburton and Bush conspiracy.

Posted by rootin4volz on May 2, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way...When exactly WILL we get the article calling for Bruce Pearl's head, John Adams? Two players at one time? It's outta control!!! Sounds to me like you need to be booking yourself a slot on that Birmingham Sports Radio show to slam the basketball program...ya dimwit! What are you gonna say now, big boy? Maybe this will prompt an apology to Coach Fulmer. I'll not be holding MY breath, however.

Posted by MillisaAnn on May 2, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with AllLadyVol. I was stunned when I heard about this, I pray that Ramar and Duke will get their heads on straight before it's too late.

Posted by VOLS85 on May 2, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange...I have an idea, let's just give them no chances! That way no one is allowed to ever screw up in life! Crews and Smith chose their destiny, they were warned that this would not be allowed, and much like Major Wingate, they did not listen...

Now you could allow this to continue, or you could kick them off the team...they got kicked off

Also, please don't speculate, it only makes you look dumb (i.e. people who speculated on Lofton's problems)...Pearl has not given anyone special privilege at UT that you can prove, so back off.

Posted by KingsportVol on May 2, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with jimr07 for once.

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on May 2, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Waiting for the expose' article from Pennington or Adams. Will Pennington be finding former Pearl players for an interview? When will Adams be calling for his head? Three years and can't get past the Sweet 16!

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, I see people have been waiting on my response to this unfortunate situation!!!!

Coach Pearl did all he could do to help these two young men who from a maturity standpoint are still a little wet behing the ears.

I'm not really worried because JUCO point guard Bobby Maze will probably be coming to Knoxville and then with Crews, Jurick is coming in and can be as productive as Crews is/was. If anything it helps with the rotation because less guys will be playing. I am just glad Pearl laid down the law before he lost control of the whole team (like Foolmore did in 2005).

It's gonna be a long summer.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Duke Crews and Brent Vinson are good friends. Hmmmm.....

Posted by cjraney on May 2, 2008 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hilarious that BP cuts these guys loose and the hens praise his strict adherence to the rules and swift administration of justice, all the while alluding to PF failure to do the same.
When will the hens question BP's supervision and control over the program?

Cluck-cluck-cluck...

Real shame and blown opportunity for these guys though. Disagree with weed prohibition but rules are rules.

Posted by GerryOP on May 2, 2008 at 9:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange, the number of instances we have not heard about is important -- in that we did not hear about them. The fact that Coach Pearl tried to keep the problems "within the family" shows that Coach Pearl respects his players. Public admonishment for personal failures would be the most brutal and destructive approach to take in attempting to discipline and rehabilitate these young men. But of course, we "adults" have "a right" to know about their personal failures and pass judgment on these kids. Right? Wrong!

Do not forget the example we heard about yesterday with Chris Lofton. How many of us passed judgement on Mr. Lofton without knowing the facts? Shame on us. He who is without guilt ....

Posted by vol_in_lsu_land on May 2, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams, what gives? Pennington, no inside sources?

Posted by mcbrim1998 on May 2, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crews spent about a month on the bench with questions about whether he had a heart condition. The Hampton, Va., player was later cleared and allowed to return to play, finishing the season with an average 5.4 points and four rebounds.

Crews served a monthlong suspension before the season began for being late to several team functions and because a campus resident assistant found small amounts of marijuana in Crews’ on-campus apartment. Charges were never filed against Crews, who shared the apartment with other students.

Posted by bshone on May 2, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Time for West to step up at the point. Please Lord God above don't let J.P. Prince be our point guard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We have plenty of big men to substitute for Duke. It was evident from the start that Chism was a better player (although less of a recruit) than Crews. I'll take a four-star with great work ethic over a five-star druggy anyday.

Posted by vols45 on May 2, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Accountability and responsibility go hand in hand. And, for the student athlete who us under a microscope all the time....... making good decisions is tantamount second only to academics. It seems that immaturity plays a big role in blowups like the Smith and Crews dismissal. These kids come from high school into an arena where they get their picture in the paper and earn a little notoriety.......and they just cannot handle the pressure and think that they can beat the system and survive. Well, they can't and thank goodness for a gutsy coach like Bruce Pearl who will not tolerate it. It's simply institutional integrity on his part to do what he did. More power to you Coach!!! You are as good in your office as an administrator as you are on the floor coaching. You represent the Orange Nation well!!!!!! Thanks for all that you do. And, for Duke and Ramar, good luck wherever you go. Clean your lives up ands quit acting like a punk.

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This story will unfold further. Two open scholarships... mean that there is room for???; something positive will be happening that hasn't been revealed just yet.

Posted by bustervols on May 2, 2008 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There was a time when your comments really meant something. I think we are beyond that. Get a life loser!

Posted by BigOrangeHustler on May 2, 2008 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This leaves room for PG Bobby Maze and F Rashanti Harris?

Posted by jcorange98 on May 2, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crews the guy who threw games and r smith the best point guard on the team who did not play

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bustervols, who are you referring to?

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 10:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Come November, this team will be stronger, more athletic, and more focused than the last team. Depth may be an issue, but skill will not. Plus, the rest of the team is now on notice regarding conduct. They all respect CBP, now maybe they'll all consider their conduct a bit more out out of fear.

Posted by mcbrim1998 on May 2, 2008 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wasn't Crews the guy who wore his head-band so far back on his head it looked real dorky?

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on May 2, 2008 at 10:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So instead of being 13 deep we will be 11 deep and will add Bobby Maze as a PG. Pearl's first year we half the talent of next year's team even without Ramar and Crews and we got a 2 seed.

Posted by bustervols on May 2, 2008 at 10:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i don't have a preference, sport. i am just angry at the world. please wait while i find my happy place, OK, OKAY!

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 2, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GerrryOP, He who is without guilt still has a schollie!

Posted by bricker865 on May 2, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Question is...who would you rather still have on the team from a basketball standpoint (hypothetical) only? I thought about it for a moment and I can't decide between the two (Crews & Smith). Which hurts us worse?

Posted by bustervols on May 2, 2008 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Schollie, schollie, schollie..................I give up?

Posted by THE_VOL on May 2, 2008 at 10:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay folks I told you earlier today that bad news was rising and here's the real story since Moron Mike Griffith can't get it. Ramar failed his drug test at the NCAA tourney. Automatic one year suspension. In this case, since it wasn't his first failed test while at UT, he's gone by BP's decision and UT policy. IF you remember, he and B. Williams sat out the first half of an SEC tourney game - yes I told you that they were suspended even though BP claimed "coaches decision". Well, it was in fact a suspension and it was for a failed drug test a day earlier.

As for Duke, suffice it to say that with his track record (let alone heart condition) he just shouldn't be going out and puffing the weed in public. He's actually lucky he's not in jail on top of being gone from this program. With both of them blowing off their academics on top of everything else, there really wasn't anything more BP could do for them even if he wanted to. A sad but true case of two guys who got smoke blown up their butts (no pun intended) all through HS, believed they were better than they were, thought they could take shortcuts on their way to the NBA, and when given the opportunity of a lifetime chose to ignore the people that REALLY cared about them - BP and staff.

Posted by bustervols on May 2, 2008 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Vol is real..............really...........reality.

Posted by bricker865 on May 2, 2008 at 10:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know...he kind of looks like Allen Iverson.. (j/k)..
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewpro...

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 2, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Duke will be ok, plenty of Virginia schools will pick him up. He is legend back in the Virginia Tidewater Area, I was hoping he would work out, he brought so much energy to the Vols!

Both had significant achademic challenges, maybe the weed wasn't all of it.

As to CBP, His actions do nothing but make parents more comfortable trusting their budding NBA Star to him.

Posted by redneckerson on May 2, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thevol is really ... full of it. He makes vague comments and then says that what happens is what he was referring to. Never offers specifics until the story comes out then claims he told us about it.

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 2, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Asheley it is always Football time in Tennessee! It is simply 121 days till the first game of next season, a nationally televised biotch slapping of UCLA in Pasadena's Rose Bowl.

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bustervols, that's ok. Be angry and vent, then let it go man. There are better days ahead.

Some folks, like Workin' Jerkin' will never see a better day, because someone is always to blame for him/her. The U of T is alma mater for many of us, and we alumni will carry the banner feast or famine. The best of us will use care in praise or scrutinization with respect of the institution. The worst of us will make up stupid names and belittle and denigrate at any chance possible.

Posted by KingsportVol on May 2, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Break out the white jackets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU_JyG...

Posted by Volalumnus on May 2, 2008 at 11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Too bad for those guys.
Would have been Jrs on a team with a lot of talent.
Can't afford to screw up with others already ready to take your minutes.
Better for TN now than in the middle of the season.

Posted by grvol on May 2, 2008 at 11:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They just made the Isia Victor team.

Posted by Chainsaw on May 2, 2008 at 11:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The high: Chris Lofton. The low: these two clowns who don't appreciate the opportunity in front of them. See ya, Duke and Ramar, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out. Punks.

Posted by AllLadyVol on May 2, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Might I suggest that the policy of waiting until a FOURTH failed drug test for marijuana until dismissing the player from the team is just a bit too lenient??!!

I know my name is AllLadyVol so I might seem a little biased. I love the men's team and Coach Pearl but I can't help but notice that this kind of thing doesn't happen with the women....Pat Summitt benches people for missing one class.

Posted by arkyvol on May 2, 2008 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

knowing only what appeared in the article, i've got to say that i think coach pearl did the right thing. seems as if pat is one of his role models. that's not a bad thing.

Posted by bricker865 on May 2, 2008 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ryan Toodle Doo.....

Posted by dfreeman on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whatever happened to tngeoff??

Posted by 02champs on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

could you all stop acting like children for one second..??? Bruce has it under control...kiddie posters please leave...geez, Louise..

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alright.. get off of the Fulmer stuff already! That has nothing to do with this post. Idiots!

Posted by Plasticman on May 2, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Stupid is as stupid does and both these guys are stupid, as in Major Wingate stupid. Some of these atheletes never cease to amaze me. We don't need thugs on our team anyway!

Posted by TurboFan on May 2, 2008 at 11:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Redneck, I firmly believe that THE_Vol has a relative that works on the staff and is dishing all the juicy stuff to him. If Bruce ever finds you how much he is yammering to the public he is probably low enough to be canned without much notice.

Posted by why36knot on May 2, 2008 at 11:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How stupid can they get? It is a shame that they have both ruined promising careers. This could be their last chance to make something of themselves and they have both blown it.
It is scary to think how much drugs have impacted the lives of so many. Too bad. Too bad.

Posted by NYVol on May 2, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thank you 02champs! Insightful analysis is respected. Personal grudges and hurtfulness is not.

Posted by mparker on May 2, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

too darn bad. the weed is a pretty lame drug to have your life ruined by using it. kinda wish the govt would legalize it and quit all this bull.

Wouldn't be surprised to see both these kids in the NCAA'a with another team. Remember that Curry kid from Okie State?? I think he is a pro now. Duke and Ramar may not make the pros, but they can be really good college players.

Posted by redneckerson on May 2, 2008 at 11:35 p.m.

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Posted by jdcdjc on May 2, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The rules apply across the board. If they can't follow the rules, best they leave and make room for those that will.

Posted by Ironcity on May 2, 2008 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hardly a surprize. Good luck and try to graduate from somewhere.

Posted by twicevolalum on May 2, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Some student athletes just aren't college material and at least one of these "student" athletes proved every day that he did not belong in college, anywhere!

Posted by wdc341 on May 3, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

this should have not come to this if they used the policy one and your gone. players would not realize there is not a second chance this is why it happens. they know they are not going to get kicked off till after the 6th offense. which is rather unusual. Most SEC schools has a much stiffer policy refering to drugs and M J. Good Luck Crews an Ramar. everyone knew sooner or later Crews would be back smoking the weed. as it had happened once before.

Posted by et_vol_fan on May 3, 2008 at 1:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This just opens up a chance for two others to step up to the plate. I never had the chance these kids had to play ball on a collegiate level and get a free education. It frustrates me that these people can't keep straight and do what needs to be done as student athletes.

Some people get all the breaks in life and they still can't cash in and take advantage of it. I don't feel any remorse for these two idiots. For every Chris Lofton...they're 50 Ramar Smiths and Duke Crews out there. Character counts in life...learn it..embrace it fellas.

Posted by pearlific on May 3, 2008 at 1:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

AGAIN I EMPHASIZE THE CHARACTER OF ONE CHRIS LOFTON...WE NEED MORE LIKE HIM!

Posted by wkb12 on May 3, 2008 at 1:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well look on the bright side, at least our FT percentage will go up.

Posted by LadyVolsEighTimes on May 3, 2008 at 1:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lol wkb12, I guess that would be the upside of this in a nutt shell at this point in time.

Just have to see who CBP can pick up to replace them. CPS did well with two JUCO players a few years back, and both were drafted this year.

Posted by mempuss on May 3, 2008 at 2:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

players getting booted for smoking pot= RIDICULOUS!!! There has to be more to the story...

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 2:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I graduated UT with my MS in Biochemistry. I worked in Y-12 and various labs in Oak Ridge for over a decade, serving my community.

After years of dedicated service to my employer, I was awarded with a promotion to our international offices for chemical operations. My boss told me that it was my charisma and daily work ethic that elevated me above my colleagues.

I grew up in East Tn, the youngest of 7 from a dirt poor farming family. My weekends growing up were spent working in hay and tobacco and other farm chores. Its the only reason that I went 13 years of public school without missing one day. I knew college was the only way out of the farming business.

However, I should be in jail and have all my successes in life taken away. I should not have a respectable name in the community. I should have to pay the price for the fact that I have always smoked pot. my wife is the only person that knows.

As an american born, freedom loving southerner, it saddens me that they take away our freedoms (remember, alcohol was illegal once and moonshine still is, which makes a bunch of you criminals too) only so they can make more profit, i.e. more expensive if illegal, court systems rake in the money as do police departments, and young kids wouldnt turn to alcohol at such a high rate so the beer industry would lose big time, etc

What is legal changes from place to place and time to time. the law is not always correct, and I think it is a crime how the government spends all its resources making sure many young people are sitting locked up for years for smoking pot while they do almost nothing about things that really matters.

thank god I live in Holland now!

Posted by n_howser on May 3, 2008 at 3:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

exactly...hummm wonder which is worse alcohol or mj????? not even close guys drinking is much more harmful....

Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on May 3, 2008 at 4:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So BP announces this "moments before UT’s annual basketball banquet." Probably to explain why Smith and Crews wouldn't be there.

A rebuilding year just got more interesting. To me, Smith isn't that big of a loss to the team. But Crews hurts, as I believe his best basketball is still ahead of him.

Certainly opens things up for last year's bench, the incoming recruits and our prospects. Looks like we need another 1 and 4 player.

Posted by Pav on May 3, 2008 at 4:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTvols12342000, I think you need to be on Dr. Phil not govolsxtra.com

Posted by imwithphilly on May 3, 2008 at 4:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Its all Fulmers fault right haters

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 6:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Pav- on Dr. Phil for what? his guests are always extreme cases of lunacy. Is that your innuendo here?

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 6:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I might add, the Dutch are the calmest and politest sciety that I have lived in. And they have bars for pot just like for alcohol. No problems either. And plenty of money for programs for anyone that wants help or rehab. Free.

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 6:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

anal grammar peeps- "society"

Posted by KingsportVol on May 3, 2008 at 6:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

imwithphilly no they would have 6 more chances on the football team.Sorry not Fulmers fault this time.Good work Coach Pearl.
"Rollin down the street smokin indo sippin on Gin and Juice".Good luck Duke.

Posted by TommyJack on May 3, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTvols123: One world, no borders, no responsibility, free drugs, free rehab, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sounds like you've been gone too long, pal. But very enlightened.lol
Give me a freakin break...

Posted by DandyVol on May 3, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THE VOL: Thanks for your post. I always look forward to them.
Go Vols

Posted by DarthVol on May 3, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Start drug testing in high school. As a wise man once said..."nip it in the bud".

And while we're on it, let's show a little more academic responsibility while they're there as well. I honestly feel sorry for colleges having to overcome lifestyles that have developed over the 18 years prior to arriving on campus. The 4-strike rule (are you kidding me?) is a testament to that.

Elitist attitude? No. I'm sympathetic to what's happening in certain areas. But what's going on now in those areas is not helping the students. It's our dirty little secret that's not really a secret. We just ignore it. Changes aren't coming anytime soon so you can expect more of the same.

Yours truly,
Darth Bensel-Myers Vol

Posted by General_Watermelon on May 3, 2008 at 8:23 a.m.

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Posted by General_Watermelon on May 3, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cause this stinks!!!!

Kingsport - cool song and video.

Posted by VolJunkie on May 3, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Under UT’s drug policy, a player is immediately dismissed following a fourth positive test for marijuana."

Fourth positive test, are you kidding? Some policy ... glad to see CP pull the trigger on this.

Posted by kceltic on May 3, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTvols12342000-Sounds like Holland is the right place for you if you are a pothead.Unfortunately what goes on over there has nothing to do with university policy regarding atheletes.Play by the rules or leave-it's that simple.

Posted by mcbrim1998 on May 3, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 2:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

thank god I live in Holland now!
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We thank God you live in Holland every day too.

Posted by Plasticman on May 3, 2008 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Vols123, I guess the Dutch are "calm" if they are all walking around high as a kite. I told a friend during this season that this would be SMith's last year. Some kids never get it, and Crews, Smith and Major Wingate obviously never got it. I hope they enjoy the construction business.

Posted by General_Watermelon on May 3, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

utvols12342000 - I bet you eat a lot of fritters.

Posted by TommyJack on May 3, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Holland has lost its soul and is losing its country thru immigration. But you can shoot up legally. Very progressive. UTVols123..how very Euro of you. Nice.

Posted by THE_VOL on May 3, 2008 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by redneckerson on May 2, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thevol is really ... full of it. He makes vague comments and then says that what happens is what he was referring to. Never offers specifics until the story comes out then claims he told us about it.
---------------------------REDNECK KING - ARE YOU SERIOUS???? LET ME REMIND YOU OF A FEW OF MY PREVIOUS "VAGUE COMMENTS" AND YOU TELL ME HOW ACCURATE THEY WERE.
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Posted by THE_VOL on January 13 at 9:19 a.m.

Funny as hell how so many who would kiss the feet of Chris Lofton if they ever got within 30 feet of him have so much to say. Best advice for all of you is to STFU about him and get off his ass because when the truth is known you will all feel like the fools you are. Bottom line 14-1!
------------REDNECK - SHOULD WE PUT YOU AT THE FRONT OF THE FOOT KISSING LINE, THE FOOL LINE or BOTH????
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Posted bt THE_VOL on March 5 at 7:31 p.m.

...As for Mr. Lofton - I will never tell what that situation is simply because it's far too personal and if he wanted the world to know he would have told you himself.
--------------REDNECK - WAS IT PERSONAL ENOUGH FOR YOU OR WOULD YOU HAVE TOLD THE WORLD ALL THE GORY DETAILS?????
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Posted by THE_VOL on March 3 at 9:16 a.m.

Word is that a PG from Saginaw, MI also committed yesterday. (FACT: West committed 2 days later)
-------------------REDNECK - SEEMS TO BE A TREND HERE????
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Posted by THE_VOL on March 20 at 6:55 p.m.

...The Vols will be missing two players (one a starter) for the first half of tomorrow's game for disciplinary reasons. Now given the opponent it shouldn't matter but it is just a further reflection of the state of some of these guys as I posted yesterday. It never ceases to amaze me how selfish some guys can be to do some stupid things and put their teammates success at risk...
---------------REDNECK - I GUESS YOU STILL BELIEVE IT WAS A "COACHES DECISION"???????
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AND JUST FOR THE RECORD REDNECK BOY - YOU HAVE NEARLY 200 POSTS ON THIS BOARD YET NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM OFFERS ANY INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ABOUT ANY SPORT OR GAME. EVERY POST YOU'VE MADE IS EITHER TAKING A SHOT AT SOMEBODY, A$$-KISSING SOMEBODY, OR (this would be most of them) JUST PLAIN STUPID BARN-YARD BABBLE. IF THIS IS JUST ANOTHER "VAGUE COMMENT" PLEASE RE-POST ANYTHING THAT DISPROVES IT! OTHERWISE WE'LL JUST CONTINUE TO CONSIDER YOU AS NOTHING MORE THAN COMEDIC RELIEF FOR THE LITTLE FARM ANIMALS. Finally, I am not related to anyone in the basketball program and how I know is not important, just that I do know.

Posted by douglasawilliams on May 3, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is too bad , but yes, it should open up 2 more scholarships on the team. They were both good payers but you can't smoke pot or get bad grades and expect to stay in college athletics. Lamarcus Coker will testify to that and Dustin Colquitt has lost his scholarship because of repeated drunk driving convictions.

Posted by beartn on May 3, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A few thoughts:

I like the way Pearl disciplines the team. Now, if someone flunked out, he didn't have a choice, but I"m glad he handles it an moves on.

We are not screwed at depth at guard, and guard play is not going to be the long term heart and soul of our team. Pearl emphasized the guards because that was the team he inherited. We are getting players that can post up, and give us more options to score. I"ve heard that Cameron Tatum can flat out play. West is coming mid summer and will play a lot. With Hopson, and Prince able to play guard, we should be fine. Another bonus we have is that we are getting much bigger at guard. I think West will be the shortest guard at 6' 3", and the rest are 6'5" or taller. That will really help our defensive options.

With Ramar gone, our team free throw % will go up. He drove the basket and got fouled a lot, but couldn't make them.

I feel the worst for Crews, who had an awful scare with the heart condition. He could have been an inspirational player for a lot of people with heart problems. Unfortunately, he chose not to be.

I'm not sure how the Netherlands got into the debate (I guess the drug thing), but the irony is that they have a much lower addiction rate than here. Since it is legal and less profitable, there aren't as many pushers actively trying to hook as many people as possible.

Posted by TurboFan on May 3, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, The_Vol, I'll take you at your word that you are not related. Still find it curious that your January 13 post is the first time you mention something mysterious going on with Chris which is around the same time his roommate finds out. Not slamming you but warn your source 'loose lips sink ships'.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 3, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Izzo passed on Ramar - guess why? He was a serious project. Maybe a little less with Duke, but I think there is a reason they came to Tennessee other than Pearl. We didn't have any big names at school here yet and I think these guys thought they could come here and do there thing.

Good riddance. You strikeout with Pearl we do not need you.

What if Pearl let them stay? Can you imagine how much weaker we would be as a team? It would make our core much softer. It would make guys like Chism not work as hard, we would have more talent, but overall we would not be as good.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? It's why I cannot stand the other coach we have on campus.

Some might see this as a negative....no way. Just like Lofton, you have to remove the cancer early on to be able to live and get better.

Best of luck to Duke and Ramar, I wish them the best.

Go vols.

Posted by ImAllVol on May 3, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This information was accurately predicted on Marc Maggard's (basketball recruiting guru) KentuckyInk.com site earlier this week. He expects that Tennessee will get Maze.

This may hurt in the short term, but the affects for the future will be for the program's best interest.

Posted by richvol on May 3, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a shame that youth is wasted on the young. Everyone makes mistakes but these young men displayed an "I don't care attitude."

The learning center at UT is a great resource for athletes. They will walk you through every test in every course and help you with papers and personal tutoring. A kid just has to not care to flunk out.

To display the attitude of I'm going to smoke pot in spite of it being against the law,knowing you are going to be tested,having previously failed drug tests and being given way too many chances these scholars decided to keep smoking.This of course is in addition to not giving a damn about schoolwork.

Good riddance! The team is much better off with these type of guys gone.

Posted by Mr_Man52 on May 3, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

2 "thugs" on the same team? Quit beating on your chest, clean up your own program and get out of the sweet sixteen....just once. Hypocrites.

Posted by volunteer4life2 on May 3, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UT has become "Chronic U" If there were an all-american toker category we would have to have the first team wrapped up. We should start a whizzanator fund for all the doobie brothers or before long we won't have any men's athletes left. It just looks bad on all the guys that do what they are supposed to do and play by the rules. As they say "you will never get anywhere in life while smoking doobies in the van by the river" GO VOLS

Posted by JohnAdamsIsTrash on May 3, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley, god bless you!!

I thought only our football team had problems?

No surprize here, remember all the pot they found in Duke Crews dorm room a year or so ago?

Remember the wierd car incedent where Ramar apparantly abandoned Wayne Chism's car? Can you say DUI and leaving the scene!

News Flash!! There are more basketball players smokeing weed, in case your too dumb to realize that!

Don't try to act like these are the only two thugs!!

Posted by GuckingFatorHaternFLA on May 3, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I personally believe that all US-Americans...wait, wrong tangent lol...seriously though, these guys were toking the ganja ONLY in an attempt to raise their draft stock for the NBA where it is written in the collective bargaining agreement that the league can not test for marijuana. It was a business decission I bet. NBA execs want players to "mesh" with the current players they have, right?

Posted by General_Watermelon on May 3, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As bad as this is for next year's team, it should help the 2009 recruiting. There is always a bright side.

Posted by volfan5521 on May 3, 2008 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GOODBYE!!!!! JP Prince was a 5 star point guard coming out of high school, he just has not gotten to play there much. They will get him ready this summer. Daniel West is a fine point guard and they offered a junior college point a spot. Ramar was not a true point and couldn't shoot the deep ball. Duke couldn't stop smoking tree, so as sad as it is Pearl just couldn't keep giving him chances. With his heart problems you would have thought smoking would be down on his priority list. Pearl will fill their spots.

Posted by Tenn_Dawg on May 3, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is sad to see talented young men like Ryan Perriloux, Duke Crews, Ramar Smith and numerous other players around the country throw away the fantastic opportunities that they have been provided. This really puts in perspective how special of an individual, student, player and teammate Chris Lofton is.

Posted by Merv on May 3, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If it happened to Johnny, it can happen to Duke and Ramar ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAu6yy...

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ- who said "One world, no borders, no responsibility, free drugs, free rehab"?

not me.

most of you are just mad that a pothead is smarter and more succesful, and also not a bigoted hatemonger.

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Had you never known these guys were smoking pot, you would be talking so nice about them. How great they are. What great players. However, only because they inhale smoke vapors that you choose not to inhale, then they should have their lives flushed down the toilet because, being high, they are better than you sober people still. that hurts i know.

Posted by UTvols12342000 on May 3, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i have only lived in Holland for one year for my job, not personal reasons.

TJ, you are right that they are losing their identity due to immigration. that has nothing to do with anything tho.

Posted by TommyJack on May 3, 2008 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTvols: I did. And what is the calculus you used to determine that you are smarter and more successful, and the rest of us are hatemongers?
Hmm?

Posted by TommyJack on May 3, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UTvols: I was tokin weed before your daddy got wood, so don't kick an open door. The fact that I choose not to do so now is personal, just as your decision to burn'em is personal to you. Don't care. Just seems like a waste of opportunity by these guys to "blow" scholarships in order to fire a little ganga.
BTW dude, I've got friends that have continued to some'em regularly for 40 years and I can attest that they ain't right. Course I'll rely to your experience.

Posted by et_vol_fan on May 3, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why don't we read the facts on MaryJane.

http://www.freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/ri...

UTvols12342000 you are mistaken.
For one thing, I have never met a "pothead" that was worth the time of day. They care more for there drug than taking care of there kids and there well being. I love the fact that my tax dollars have to go to pay for drugs for these dead beats? If the potheads aren't taking care of there kids my tax dollars are. The money has to come from some where? If the drug user is taking there money that should be used to take care of kids they don't want then my tax dollars have to fill the void.

That is one of the reasons that I don't watch the NBA. Not only it is a poor product on the floor there are nobody to root for that is a decent citizen. If the NBA tested for weed and illegitimate kids then 85% of the league would be gone. Again, my tax dollars have to come thru and take care of those kids. I loved how Karl Malone told his son "It's too late for me to me your dad...you'll have to make your own money" Thanks Karl you POS.

Posted by winbigvols on May 3, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Utvols12342000---I could care less where you worked or how much money you made. You should be in JAIL with Ramar and Duke. Your all three worthless and all three POTHEADS. You like them think only of yourself. Your and idiot. Your not living in Holland your probably in some trailer park in southwest Virginia married to your first cousin or sister. Go crawl under some rock, you stupid jerk, or atleast say something that makes sense.

Posted by rckydx on May 3, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's good it happened during the off season. Now we can recruit maybe Devin Ebanks and another guard. Thanks Ramar and Duke for your contribution to the team for two years.

Posted by TK on May 3, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sorry these two did not learn more from Chris Lofton in the two years they were here on and off the court. Chris showed that he put the team over his own personal issues. These two put themselves over the team and the team will be better off next year without them.

Posted by VolCane7979 on May 3, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ashley, how many days until it's football time in Tennessee? I didn't catch that earlier.

Posted by bluevol on May 3, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is great. All you trash talkers calling the Memphis players "thugs," lol! It appears the thugs are in Knoxville. Well I see Memphis just signed another top 50 recruit. That's 4 down and 1 to go and they will have the #1 recruiting class in the country.

Bye :)

Posted by et_vol_fan on May 3, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

These two dolts aren't a big loss. A point guard that can't shoot a FT and role player in the paint that is giving you 5 points? These two would never make it in the NBA but they could of contributed a little to this program and give the fans some good memories along while getting a good education.

Posted by rckydx on May 3, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bluevol calling the kettle black. Memphis has loss many players for the pot smoking. The last was Andre. Cal doesn't enforce any standards. The Plush Club incidents were over looked. Rose was recently fighting on campus with football player Steven Black. Please go to another board with the tiger thugs.

Posted by jcvet on May 3, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Idiots!! No loss. Probably the real reason the team played so poorly at the seasons end.

Posted by ehudgin1 on May 3, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Just wondering why do all these Memphis fans feel like they need to come to our chatboards.

Posted by mempuss on May 3, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In 2003 there were 43,005 known alcohol related deaths compared to 0 marijuana related deaths.

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 3, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think that it is a huge loss. Ramar showed what he can do his freshman year. The freethrow thing was mostly mental and could be corrected. He gave us a point guard that could break the press by himself with the dribble. His halfcourt play left something to be desired last year, but was nothing an offseason couldn't cure. Now we get to see JP and West try to fix the point guard. West looks to be good but will probably go through growing pains. JP just doesn't look to have the right skill set for point guard. Josh Tabb, anyone?

Duke learned how to hit freethrows, and the main reason he was on the bench was Chism started playing better around the same time. Could this mean that the competition for playing time benefited the team? I think so. Duke played hard on defense and rebounded well. Had Chism gone pro after next year, Crews would have been the starting man inside with the other two starters from the previous year gone.

So yes, I think this is a big loss. They were highly rated recruits for a reason. They had potential, and Bruce is a master at achieving potential (see Childress and Bradshaw). Now the program doesn't get to benefit from them achieving that potential.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on May 3, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bluevol - let me guess. You like Memphis basketball and Tennessee football? Loser

Posted by THE_VOL on May 3, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WD...January 13 may have been the first time I mentioned it but it does not mean that was when I knew about it. As for "loose lips" show me one thing that I've posted that wasn't made public within a few days anyway. Alot of people here may not like my style but I ain't stupid and I damned sure don't post EVERYTHING I know. Other than that, I could really give a rat's a$$ what anybody thinks anyway!

Posted by THE_VOL on May 3, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey ASHLEE - it may be 121 days til football BUT IT IS STILL 3, 435 DAYS SINCE FOOTBALL WON THE SEC!!!! Were you even born back then???????

Posted by alfrizzle097 on May 3, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alcohol should be just as illegal as marijuana. When people get drunk or high, they go out and hurt other people. Poor decisions and increased reaction time ends in two pairs of headlights coming together far too often.

Just remember, alcohol is the only legal mind altering recreational drug in America.

Oh, and by the way, we don't throw kids in jail for smoking marijuana. That is why I can walk onto my balcony at Gibb's hall and see athletes smoking pot any Friday or Saturday night. The officers wouldn't even have to get a warrant to search the rooms that smell like pot. Are the athletes held to a higher standard than other students? Yes, when they get caught. The question is whether the standard for athletes is too high, or the standard society has set is too low. I'm going to go with the second.

The idea that there is "no wrong" and only different perceptions of right is the main reason society seems so intent on going to hell. If people would realize that every law and every provision in the Bill of Rights is based on SOMEBODY'S PERCEPTION OF RIGHT AND WRONG, then perhaps we would realize that it is the effort to elevate ourselves to some higher standard is what separates us from animals. Smoking marijuana is wrong because it makes you more likely to harm other people. Is it the worst thing you can do? No. That still doesn't mean that it is right.

Posted by bluevol on May 3, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rckydx posted "Memphis has loss many players for the pot smoking."

You are a liar rckydx. Allen is the only Tiger I know of in the recent past suspended for any type of substance abuse. One player hardly constitutes "many." You continue to beat that non- issue Plush Club incident to death. No Tigers were arrested for drugs, public intoxication or anything of the sort. A couple of them had words with policemen. They were signaled out by the police because they simply drew a drew a crowd with their presence at the club. Give it a rest if that's all you have. And I'll continue to post here as long as I wish as long as I abide by the rules. Wrong. Fulmer, I could care less for Tennessee football. You must be one of the early failures of electroshock therapy. You do have a good point however... six inches above your eyes.

:-P

Posted by creepykev on May 3, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weed doesn't make you hurt people you poor sheltered fool. If anything it makes you much more docile.

Posted by missrvrvol on May 3, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Edge. The reason memphis fans come on this board is because a majority of idiots on this board goes to the memphis boards and trashes them.

Posted by rckydx on May 3, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bluevol remember Cooper

Posted by rckydx on May 3, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bluevol remember Bailey

Posted by rckydx on May 3, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bluevol remember Banks

Posted by THE_VOL on May 3, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JohnAdamsIsTrash - ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS!!!??? You carry that name and then make that post simply repeating what's been reported/said about a thousand times????? You must BE John Adams!

Volfan5521 - JP PRINCE AT PG???? No way my friend! THAT experiment is dead! He may have had 100 stars coming out of HS but this ain't HS and he ain't a PG IN ANY LEAGUE! PG's are able to dribble and pass with both hands!! West is your likely starter and Maze will be the back-up.

UTVols12342000 - You just now figuring all that out???? 99% of the people on here are jock-sniffing a$$-kissers until they mess up then this pathetic paranoid crowd gets out their bibles, starts beating them with both hands and acquires convenient amnesia!

et_vol - sounds like that race card is pretty big in your life!!??? 85% of NBA would be gone with drug/illegitimate kid testing???? News flash moron - they do test for drugs. No decent citizens in the league??? Ever heard of Tim Duncan, Dikembe Mutombo, Ray Allen, Shaq, Steve Nash, Battier, Sczerbiak, the list goes on....????

winbigvols - say something that makes sense??? Yes we hope you will.

mempuss - quoting erroneous stats like that MIGHT get you qualified for a degree from that cesspool Memphis State!

alfrizzle - WHAT????? Neither of these two got ANY better this past season. BOTH have been head cases from day 1 who refused to put in the time and effort it takes to improve let alone be great. BOTH may have been highly rated but we all know what a high rating means now don't we???? As for BP getting the most out of Childress/Bradshaw - well, Childress has provided nothing in three years so not sure what you refer to there and Bradshaw was smart enough as a player to take an opportunity, work his a$$ off and be a leader. Not sure his skills oro effort changed any under BP but the system certainly provided more opportunity. The difference in these 4 is that 3 had limited skills, 2 of those 3 had zero character, and the fourth was simply a man wanting to succeed at any cost. These dismissals represent ZERO loss to this program and will ultimately be addition by subtraction as the chemistry will be much better, Chism and Williams won't have the two party boys around to lead them down the wayward path, and MORE talented players will get opportunities.

Posted by THE_VOL on May 3, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)