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HOOVER, Ala. - A media event became a media circus Thursday morning.
Granted, there's a fine line between the two. But you only had to observe the Tennessee and Alabama media scurrying around the Wynfrey Hotel mid-morning to know the line had been crossed.
My introduction to the media frenzy began as I exited Georgia coach Mark Richt's interview session. Another sportswriter informed me that Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer had been subpoenaed.
Fulmer subpoenaed at SEC football media days? Isn't that story a bit stale?
In 2004, Fulmer was threatened with a subpoena in regard to his testimony to NCAA investigators about Alabama's creative football recruiting. Heeding the advice of his attorney, Fulmer didn't attend the SEC football media days and was fined $10,000 by the conference office.
He got off easy compared to Alabama, which was hit with a five-year NCAA probation sentence, including a two-year bowl ban.
Alabama's probation sentence has ended. But the legal process seemingly grinds on forever, as evidenced by the latest suit spawned by Alabama collision with the NCAA.
This one is brought to you compliments of Blankenship, Harrelson & Wollitz - a Birmingham law firm dedicated to restoring the reputation and financial well being of used-car dealer Wendell Smith.
Oops. Sorry about the used-car reference, guys. Chris Linton, a clerk with the law firm representing Smith, said their client actually was a wholesale dealer of imported cars.
In NCAA circles, Smith was better known as "a rogue booster," a characterization that stems, in part, from Fulmer's NCAA testimony, according to Smith's attorneys. That seemingly explains their motive for subpoenaing Fulmer "to find out what he knows" in hopes of beating the NCAA in court.
After hearing from both sides by early afternoon, I struggled to decide which made less sense: the law firm's explanation for how and when it served the subpoena or Fulmer's response to questions about the subpoena.
Paraphrasing Fulmer's take: "Subpoena? What subpoena?"
While Fulmer denied any knowledge of the subpoena during the interview sessions, Smith's attorneys described the process in such exquisite detail, I felt as though I were watching it in slow motion.
Fulmer arrived at the Wynfrey Hotel. His car door opened. Attorney Greg Case (an attorney named Case: How good is that?) dropped the subpoena in Fulmer's lap as he extended his legs from the car. As Case walked away, Fulmer picked up the subpoena.
Later in the day, Fulmer acknowledged in a press release that he received a subpoena. He just didn't know what it was at the time. When he exited the car, a stranger threw a piece of paper at him. He picked it up, handed it to UT publicist Bud Ford without looking at it and went on with his day.
Subpoena? What subpoena?
You can't blame Fulmer for trying to avoid the issue at media days. But if he had handled it differently, his credibility wouldn't be in question.
You can blame the attorneys.
Never mind their denials. Their timing couldn't have been more obvious if they had announced it on the hotel marquee.
Linton said his firm had hoped to subpoena Fulmer without any media scrutiny the night before. Its representatives showed up at the hotel and waited outside Shula's Steakhouse in case Fulmer showed up for dinner, he said.
"We were just hoping basically and thinking, 'Shula's is pretty popular with the coaches; if he comes and stays at the hotel, there's a real good chance he will go down (to the restaurant),' " Linton said.
It wouldn't have taken much research to determine that coaches and players often don't stay overnight at media days. Or you could have called the UT Sports Information Office, identified yourself as a Vol fan, and asked when the representatives of your beloved team would arrive in Birmingham. The itinerary wasn't exactly top-secret.
Of course, then you wouldn't have gotten all the media attention.
The media got used. So did the SEC.
But there wasn't much they could do about it.
"Several years ago, we thought it might happen," said Charles Bloom, the SEC's associate commissioner for media. "We were trying to plan on how to deal with it.
"What we came away with is it's a free country, and the judicial process has its points. We couldn't do anything to stop it if it's in a public place."
However, winning the day in the media is nothing like winning in court. My advice to Smith and his dream team: Don't spend the NCAA's money just yet.
The NCAA's investigation of Alabama has fostered three other lawsuits. And not one of the plaintiffs has cashed an NCAA check.
Chasing ambulances is more promising. So is selling cars.
Sports editor John Adams may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com.
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Posted by volwalk on July 24, 2008 at 10:11 p.m.
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Posted by tngeoff on July 24, 2008 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Orchestrated
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 24, 2008 at 10:26 p.m.
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Posted by Silent_Fulmer on July 24, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks Foolmer
Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 24, 2008 at 10:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
At least Foolmore talked to the media for the first time since the end of spring practice. Too bad all he is getting now is negative perception, fair or not.
Posted by arkyvol on July 24, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i absolutely agree with phil on this. its total b.s. (and i'm a lawyer).
the s.e.c. fined him $10,000 a few years ago when he took a pass rather than submit himself and the league to this kind of non-sense. in fairness, they ought to refund every dime. furthermore, if they can't restrain themselves in bama, the s.e.c. ought to consider moving the event to a civilized venue like nashville or atlanta.
Posted by eefor10c on July 24, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Adams, you jerk!!!!!!!!!! You say, in speaking of Coach Fulmer, "His credibility wouldn't have been questioned.." Don't you wish you had some credibility to be questioned? You are the sweetheart of Working and his kind. Please stay in Alabama.
Posted by utchris2003 on July 24, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ok, I have not been a fan of some of Adams articles, but I find no fault to this.
It cant be to long before Bama faces the death penalty with Saban around.
Posted by wagee12 on July 24, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The legal system in Alabama deserves a pat on the back for this one. Inspector Clouseau foolmurr must appear in court and answer questions just like he should have been made to do after his obession with bammer cost us dearly in recruiting for at least two years.
Thanks again John Adams for shining the truth on the foolmurr mafia in Knoxville. The entire state owes you a real debt of gratitude.
Posted by 55Vol on July 24, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Kaplan...why does the site allow a Bama fan to sign on as "peeonorange" but one cannot use the word azz on here without being banned?
Posted by Silent_Fulmer on July 24, 2008 at 10:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
hey Arkyvol, good call, I agree that Foolmer shouldnt have to follow league rules.
Posted by Michael1204 on July 24, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I thought this was a good article, then I realized John Adams wrote it.
Posted by BIGEJ on July 24, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
These “spit nits” denoted as sports writing is the inane ploy of the noted prized “reporter” to disseminate, for profit, to the limited public; One only need to read title and it’s author.
Nothing more needs to be said;
I am saddened the Scripps stock price dropped 7.5% to $8.51 and the stock did not benefit these scribed maunderings of the “prized” one.
Oh, well, maybe, one of “non-embellished” can report something with merit for the fans.
Go….Vols.
Posted by RichRollin on July 24, 2008 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey guys, chill out. You know GerryOP likes to sniff Adam's NOTS, and will be really upset for you dissing JOHNNY BOY!!!!!
Posted by rootin4volz on July 24, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Adams found himself right smack in the middle of a circus...which is exactly where a clown like John Adams belongs.
Posted by utchris2003 on July 24, 2008 at 11:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
When the Alabama football team comes to town next, the KPD should pull over the Alabama bus after an "anonymous" tip led them to believe that Bama players are in possession of illegal substances (remember they like the crack). When Saban calls bs and objects, he should be taken in to custody for disorderly conduct (after all there is a precedent in knoxville for being arrested for yelling and waiving ones arms). He can be put in a special cell with other men who like excessive hair gel.
Posted by workinlikehek on July 24, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whole lotta losers in bammerland. Check out that "law firm's" web site. Talk about mickey mouse! Jerry Springer is alive and well, and living in Bombingham. Stay above it, Coach. Good job.
Posted by wolfevol88 on July 24, 2008 at 11:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Bottom line is we are dealin with total bammer, white trash scum. Their state is miserable(drive through it), they are miserable, and they've only got 1 NC in the last 20 years compared to the 50 they say they won with bear and before. Trash will always be trash. On the third Sat. in October......Let's take out the trash!
Posted by FWBVol on July 24, 2008 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Again, I see no problem with Phillip Fulmer's explanation. His credibility shouldn't be questioned based on the statements of someone that's a member of the perhaps the most hated and least trusted profession in America (sorry arkyvol).
If Phillip Fulmer is telling the truth as I believe he is, what other way could he have handled it? If he honestly didn't know what he had been given he has no other explanation, but that's not good enough for some people.
The whole sham is a rogue Alabama booster and his team of attorneys were able to steal UT's thunder on media day. Instead of talking about the team and outlook on the season most of the stuff about UT today has been about this incident. It's a crying shame some cheater has been able to pull this stunt off.
Posted by LargeOrange on July 25, 2008 at 12:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I have to say, someone else must have written this for John Adams. This article actually seemed to have some energy, some attempts at humor even. Whoever the ghost writer was even made a couple of attempts to blame the lawyers and the "used car" salesman rather than dogging CPF and blaming him for everything. I call them like I see them and this is the first half-way interesting thing JA has written since coming off of his probation, er I mean long vacation. Keep this intern writing your stuff John, and you have a shot of moving from 2nd place Sports Writer in Tennessee to number one next year!
Posted by utchris2003 on July 25, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Chris Low wrote for ESPN that Fulmer was to blame for this...like he was supposed to see it coming eh?
Posted by Bigger_Al on July 25, 2008 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Adams inhales briskly. He is a pawn used by the Alabama media, though he just thinks he is being paid for his good work.
Posted by VolPowers on July 25, 2008 at 1:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Aren't subpoenas supposed to be served by an officer of the law who first identifies him or herself with identification, and then isn't the receiver supposed to sign acknowledging receipt of the subpoena???? Apparently not in Alabama, yet again proof of it's standing in the evolution pecking order. Throwing it in someone's lap is not appropriate legal conduct, and why those like Adams and Low have not used their media status to question that only further cements their ineptness.
Posted by Bigger_Al on July 25, 2008 at 1:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here are two good articles by Tennessee papers that aren't heavily invested in UT's demise:
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.d...
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...
Posted by UTvols12342000 on July 25, 2008 at 2:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
big al
thanks for those links.
the difference between a writer and his product that is not heavily invested in UT's demise as opposed to the opposite is so apparent.
Posted by gavol on July 25, 2008 at 4:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Mr. Adams. It seems you are saying that Phil is lying. You admit that you were not at the location where the event took place. What evidence do you have to show that Fulmer did not know what the paper was immediately after he got it. Your arrogance is your only evidence. Mr. Adams you yourself have no credibility. Many Vol Fans have over and over expressed that you leave the paper and the state because of your disdain for this program. Please apply for a job in Alabama; there you can continue to make your accusations without every witnessing the events for which you know what happened. Mr. Adams credible? PLEASE!
Posted by gavol on July 25, 2008 at 4:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"But you only had to observe the Tennessee and Alabama media scurrying around the Wynfrey Hotel mid-morning to know the line had been crossed."
Mr. Adams. It's amazing that you can make such a conclusion just because a bunch of hack reporters such as yourself are scurrying around. Where is your journalistic integrity? I know you didn't loose it in Alabama, because its been missing a long time.
Posted by richvol on July 25, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Has there ever been, in any city, a more disliked and less respected sports editor than Adams?
The answer is obvious to everyone but him and the KNS.
Posted by mikes70gto on July 25, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well DC,I see that you finally agree that Adams is a jerk-off writer too.
p.s. Try telling that to the Bama boys at the next Adams "gator bbq cook-off"
Posted by why36knot on July 25, 2008 at 7:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The SPORTS PAGE SHARKS circled in the water looking for blood. They got none,though they wasted most of the last hour and one half of the program. Adams being the BOSS "sports pager"; was at first gracefully doubtful of the validity of the story. Hooker's take on the other hand was first to doubt what Fulmer said and then he joined his BOSS in the Hoax theory. I can only surmise what both REALLY were thinking.
I guess Adams article today is less accusatory than it might have been judging from his track record and how much he dislikes Fulmer. Maybe this is calculated to get him back to where he can accuse and criticize later and he can refer to this article and it's mild insinuation that Fulmer was lying.
Of course if Fulmer was lying, then Bud Ford was lying also and seriously doubt that!
Posted by BigMix on July 25, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The worm wasn't at the locatoin because he is avoiding Coach Fulmer at all cost.
Posted by VOLstuckINky on July 25, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I can see JA rubbing his little hands together with Grinch like smile and cocked eye brow. The only down side is he can't follow Tim Tebag around the rest of the weekend.
Posted by rusty_shackleford on July 25, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Let me get this straight: A coward throws a piece of paper/envelope at the coach who picks it up and give it to the man behind him. Tuscaloosa John then takes him to task for not stopping what he was doing to immediately read it. In today's world, it could have been anything on it or in the envelope!
I'm confident that had the coach let the paper fall to the ground, tuscaloosa john and his mindless minions, the adamites, would complain that he was littering!
Posted by VOLnAla on July 25, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
First problem is that you have over 800 media credential's present at this event. SAD. It is a freaking circus of Bammeridiots in a run down crap hole of a mall that happens to have a hotel attached to it. This is the most embarrassing event to take place in Alabamer every year.
Posted by bigorange98 on July 25, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is bad lawyering by some ... well, Smith's lawyer's website speaks for itself -- they take PayPal.
More info on these guys at: http://gate21.net
(including a link to their "contact us" page)
Posted by mikes70gto on July 25, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DC,I was agreeing with your 3:37 post;these media idiots and bama freaks just wont let it go.Why would they need CPF to testify on Smith's behalf?? Could it be that the law firm is not capable of defending him?? Notice DC, the trend of Adams not a DAMN thing but GARBAGE to write about.Thank God for Hooker and Strange ? !
Posted by VolnDothan on July 25, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
SO TRUE VOLnAla! This event outgrew Birmingham 15 years ago. The majority of the media is Alabama based...it's a flea circus.
I attended it a couple of times a few years ago, since I lived close by at the time, and I could walk around the Wynrey Hotel like I owned the place. You could walk right up to any coach or player and listen to the interview. Never saw security. No one seemed to know what the heck was going on. Fulmer is braver than we give him credit!
Move it to Atlanta or Nashville or Orlando or anywhere else!
Posted by Moaninglikeheck on July 25, 2008 at 9:01 a.m.
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Posted by orangeinbama on July 25, 2008 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is a copy of the subpoena at this idiots website.....
http://www.finebaum.com/blog/
Actual subpeona
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2008/07/F...
There are several Bummer fans I work with while they had a good laugh and I got some ribbing about it, they for the most part seem to just want the whole mess just to go away....
Posted by VolnDothan on July 25, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Same here orangeinbama...
Posted by kevinlimbo on July 25, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A law firm with a pay pal account. Do they offer divorces on Ebay, as well?
Posted by hcjournals on July 25, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What some people may not realize is that while we, the Vol faithful are less than enthused with the breach of journalistic ethics set forth by John
Adams, he is basking in all the attention it has garnered. He is loving it. When he is contacted by other sports writers from around the country, he has a good laugh and probably tells them that he is stirring up the rednecks and selling papers while he is doing it. Believe me, at this point he thinks he is the king of the hill. It's too easy to see that there is no accident that he is the one writing the column this morning. The tragic irony is that the brass at Scripps Howard won't touch this, because if they tried to make this right in whatever manner would be appropriate, they would be "caving in" to the masses. Well, if you don't see the dagger in this morning's article, you don't get it. Was it even necessary to write it and somehow make Coach Fulmer look bad? I don't think so. there are hard working people at Scripps Howard. There are people to think they are bigger and better than the people they serve. One of these premises is at work here. If you think we are just a bunch of fools, you are wrong. You work for us. Remember that. We certainly will....Either repent and admit you are human, or get out of Dodge......Your choice.
Posted by pdhuff on July 25, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anyone remember UCLA?
Or has the date been changed again due to legal obligations........
Posted by Chartervol on July 25, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just got back from the gulf. Folks, everything south of Ardmore is still simmering. It's right edgy down there.
Everybody else wants to win football games and have a good time. Bammers want revenge on the world.
Posted by RichRollin on July 25, 2008 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
PD, I could not agree more. Lets not let these Bammer losers get us off track! Better yet lets not let Bammer scum get to much pleasure out of this. I'm gonna get pleasure out of Rico McCoy snapping John David Booty Cooter Parker Wilson into pieces!
Posted by joboo64 on July 25, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Adams is the scourge of society. He talks about CPF getting off easy as to Alabama's probation. How do you compare the two. Let's see: CFP didn't go to media days. Alabama lied, cheated, paid players and for years in Memphis bought players. What a cheap shot to compare the two.
Next: Adams again wants to bring CPF's credibility in to question for a bouched job of serving a subpoena. Adams is the one who's credibility is in question because he will take a grooup of "red neck" lawyers who want to gain status amoung the Alabama fans by serving CPF and add credibility to them when they should be disbarred for such a trivial suit. God forbid that a used car dealer's character should be in question.
Adams sure must hate CPF to stoop to such an all time low. Maybe he is just one step above a used car salesman.
Posted by wewhite on July 25, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What? Didn't Mr. Case, esq. say anything to Fulmer? Just dropped a piece of paper in his lap? I wonder how many times Fulmer's received something like that, opened it up, and a barely legible scribble says, "Go to He||, Fulmer! Signed, [Insert SEC rival name here] fan."
Besides, Mr. Case had such an excellent opportunity! He could've said, "Deeeeeeeamn, Boy! You just got served!"
Posted by Bigger_Al on July 25, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
joboo64 - I agree wholeheartedly on the ridiculous comparison by Adams. Obviously, Adams credibility rests on the demise of UT's coach.
Posted by rllipscomb on July 25, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think we are all looking at this wrong.
I don't see how Alabama or its fans benefit from these events at all. Remember Alabama jettisoned this booster a long time ago because he had caused them a lot of trouble.
My guess is that this guy is as upset with Alabama as he is with the NCAA. I am not sure that he is all that upset with Fulmer, but as a disgruntled fan, there certainly is no love lost.
Personally, I hope Fulmer is deposed. And I hope Spurrier is also because he was probably the first one to turn them in - according to Spurrier. I means all the deposition will do is highlight Bama's infractions. All Fulmer and Spurrier did was follow the rules which require them to report suspected infractions.
But here is one last thing that I need help from you guys.
Didn't SABAN also report Bama at the time? That is at least my recollection. If it is true, well wouldn't that be fine kettle of fish?
Posted by VOLnAla on July 25, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I would move SEC media days to Columbus Ohio. Go Big Orange!
Posted by hcjournals on July 25, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I just looked the website for the bozo law firm that did this. Men's Wearhouse should be ashamed for not fitting these fine lawyers better. They look like they just graduated from the YMCA Law School, and they are trying to make a name for themselves. Speaking of that......Who is this Wendall character and how many cars does he think he is going to sell in Chattanooga after this? Deposing coach Fulmer will not win a case for them, and doing it during Media Days is bush league, ambulance chasing drivel.......
Posted by mikes70gto on July 25, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey ADAMS here is you a real story to write about,since you are such a bama,gator,suck up !!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/37...
Posted by VolFanInAtl on July 25, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)
"All I can say is we beat their butts most of the time on the field. We beat their butts in the courtroom and if we have to, we’ll beat their butts again" - I like that... go get'em Phil!
Phil has said butt, BS and crap all out loud in the past 24 hours. He's going to get his mouth washed out with soap when he gets home.
Posted by marc_ash on July 25, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't see anything to blow up about in this article. Actually pretty unbiased. If anything, the article (and the whole situation for that matter) reflects the sad nature of Alabama and the people that support the program.
Why in the world would: A. Anyone have to serve him on media day? It wasn't like they needed to secretly wait for him not knowing where he could be found B. The person serving the subpeona come up to Fulmer and throw it on his lap and leave? It isn't like he needed to pretend he was delivering a pizza to serve him. C. Someone have to try and stake out a steak joint (excuse the pun) to try and "nab" Fulmer? Again, YOU KNOW WHERE HE IS.
Sounds to me like this whole event is childish. It also seems like the people serving Fulmer were trying to put him in a difficult situation. Fine. But IMO, this just makes Alabama folks look like little children.
Bottom line, if you feel CPF "told on you" then fine. But if you are so worried...then don't break the rules and you won't have to.
Posted by marc_ash on July 25, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by DCflorida on July 25, 2008 at 3:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
While most SEC fans are trying to catch a few press conferences on their teams and opponents, Tennessee and Bama are engaged in some sort of weird drunken' ho down.
DC,
How do you figure? Do the research and understand the history here before you make comments like you just did. UT isn't the side that is up in arms. Quite the opposite I might add.
Bama folks are angry because they think Fulmer is to blame for their programs demise. They are so upset, that they will stoop to just about anything to try and pee on UT's tree any chance they get.
I think my favorite example of childish antics was the UT/Bama game 2 years ago when our band was on the field playing still and the bama kicker came out and was kicking field goals before the show had ended. And to end the day, bama fan's cheered loudly when one of our players went down with an injury.
Never in my life had I heard a stadium curse out another school in unison...but the words f@#k you bama had to be heard as far as away as Kingston Pk.
Posted by utchris2003 on July 25, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I was looking at the subpoena a minute ago.....I know that there have been one or two posters mentioning that they were lawyers on here. My question is can they list the Mall address as Fulmer's? I know that the law can be strict on its documents, so is this something that can have it thrown out?
Posted by Volchaz on July 25, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You call what Bama did in 04, creative? I guess you could call cheating, creative. I call it cheating. I guess JA is selective with his choice of words, to make sure he still gets asked to appear on Finebaum, etc. Terrible column.....
Posted by wagee12 on July 25, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Keep up the good work Mr. Adams, keep shining the light of day on the adventures of Flummo and his UT insiders.
BTW, the supeona was legal and the service was legal. Check the law!
Posted by bigfan502 on July 25, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Guys chill out...the teams of Georgia and Florida dominated the conference mostly. The Vols were played down...just the way we want it. Forida and the Bulldogs now carry a bullseye. Now if we can just win the opener on Labor day, It will perk up the Volunteers mentally, I still think the Vols were in a funk when they lost to Gators last year..Why?...the game at Cal last year took the wind out of our sails..thus we were easy pickings for Meyer and his team.
Posted by bigfan502 on July 25, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Comments; Skinny talk at the conference meeting in Hoover was mostly about how good Gators and Bulldogs are...The Vols were hit with that old bugaboo...the defense against the run. Some think and openly say the Tennessee defense is and has been for years their weakest link. I hope we have improved. But overall, the Vols are not considered generally as a factor in the SEC race.....This is what they say.
Posted by bigfan502 on July 25, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Norm Chow the new Ucla Offensive head man has recently been swamped by outstanding high school QBs around the nation to sign on with Bruins. Aware that Chow has coached several Heisman trophy winners who have won National championships, the high schoolers want to be noticed early. (From L.A. Times)
Posted by H1Gator on July 25, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Read it and weep.......
I had a chance to talk to Slive not long after Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer was hit with a subpoena as he walked into the Wynfrey Hotel. The subpoena called on Fulmer to give a deposition in a lawsuit by a former Alabama booster against the NCAA. It set off a media frenzy that dominated the second day of the meetings, which is what it was designed to do.
To say that the commissioner was miffed would be an understatement. Here’s why:
This is just the kind of knucklehead stuff that Slive has been trying to get rid of in this league since he became commissioner in 2002. There are mechanisms in place to better deal with rules breaking by conference members. There are specific procedures in place when one school thinks another is cheating. This whole episode started years ago because an Alabama booster believed Fulmer was working with the NCAA in its investigation of Alabama. Now a coach can’t do that. There is a chain of command that he has to follow. In fact, it became known as “the Phillip Fulmer rule.”
Posted by BSweet on July 25, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sad to say, but I can almost see the glee in Mr. Adams eye when he wrote this article. He was faced with possibly having to write something positive about UT during media days, but lo, from the heavens drops a subpoena. And once more he was saved from having to say anything nice about the Vol FB team. Mr. Adams, hate Fulmer all you want, I don't care. But even in hating the coach, you can offer positive stories on the team. People who hate the president don't feel the need to hate the country too. It's pointless. Really? Would it kill you to say something, anything positive about our fb team. It's no wonder so many on here bash you. I'm starting to see sjt's point about you having an agenda. You're willing to cut off your nose just to spite your face.
Posted by BSweet on July 25, 2008 at 4:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
And for the record, I am not an Adams "hater". I just find it odd and frustrating that he touts our SEC competition, yet cannot muster any positive words about our team. That's T-E-A-M. He can hate Fulmer all he wants, I really don't care about their feud. But the team is not Fulmer and there are definately players on our team that deserve the love.
Posted by ctownvol on July 25, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
John Adams is questioning somebody's credibility? Now that's funny. John Adams is a joke. And not a very good one either.
Posted by bigfan502 on July 25, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
BSweet the conference talk was from fans about mostly the Gators and Bulldogs. Serious Vol talk was missing. JA has nothing to do with that. But, in a way, BSweet, this could be good..maybe we would not have bullseye on our chest..slip up on some team and beat them.
Posted by TommyJack on July 25, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Never underestimate the power of being underestimated.
Posted by BigOrangeJeff on July 25, 2008 at 7:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here's an idea. Someone should camp out at the KNS offices. When Lord Adams emerges from his car, throw an envelope at him and watch what he does with it. If he doesn't open it and read it immediately then, apparently, his credibility is questionable.
BOJ
Posted by vol98champ on July 25, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Please, someone with an ounce of common sense, TAKE THIS GREAT EVENT TO A CITY WHERE NORMAL PEOPLE LIVE. Hoover Al is, at the very least, the worst place to hold it.
Posted by bigfan502 on July 25, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
That subpeona situation it seems has been going on for years. If I recall correctly, The power of a subpeona in a civil case is only effective in the state is is served. This appears to be harassment act..but legally not really worth the paper its written on. I think this is repeat of the same thing a couple of years ago..when Fulmer did not respond...but its meant for harassment.
Posted by pdhuff on July 25, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder if Phil lays in bed staring at the ceiling wondering-"If I'd never heard of Al Means"........
Posted by IPOrange on July 25, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's all crap.
Posted by warriorman86 on July 25, 2008 at 9:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
John Adams>Foolmer and his mediocre seasons
Posted by rusty_shackleford on July 25, 2008 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tuscaloosa john and his mindless minions < alabubba lawyers < mediocre boogers
Posted by murrayvol on July 25, 2008 at 9:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
H1Gator: Soooo you been talking to Slive. Sorry to hear he's miffed. Did you get him calmed down? Maybe give him some props an that Plus 1 plan. Be sure to keep us posted. We're all real interested in what goes on the Commish's office.
Posted by murrayvol on July 25, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pd: I doubt Phil spends much time in bed. Too busy. Too motivated to get back on top of that pile. And it's a steeper climb than it was back in 98'.
Posted by Navalorange on July 25, 2008 at 10:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Im glad that CPF is madder than heck. I would lay odds that Satan and his bunch will not have a pleasant trip to K-Town this year.
The subpoena is pure harrASSment, even their legal system must be redneck down there. As far as JA goes, I need some more information on why he says CPF's credibility was at stake in any way over this. Give me a freakin break, like he's going to stop right in the middle of all that hoopalah and read a freakin paper that somebody tosses him. JEEZ Adams, give the man a break when he deserves one.
DC, please explian how this is a UT/bama ho down. UT and CPF are like innocent bystanders in a redneck bammer drive-by. THIS HAPPENED OVER FOUR YEARS AGO. Even a gator homer ought to be able to see through this BS.
Posted by tigermanic44 on July 26, 2008 at 5:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How be you guys? Im an Aubbie...see you on the plains this fall. Anyway, the SEC media days will get moved to Atlanta, Nville most definitely. I wish they would just drop the whole thing. Its old news and over with. I dont know if Phil was dishonest..he may have been when saying he hadnt seen a subpoena but he knew what it was. But thats not important. In this case the NCAA would have to admit of incompetence in handling the investigation as far as the "phil" factor ...but NCAA wont admit anything which is why it should be dropped. We all know bammer is guilty with Means...but the world may never know what really went down. What do you guys think. But the reality or perception of it is..that Phil lied bout certain things in the Bama case and some wont ever let it go.
I wonder how many more subpoenas Phil will receive. If he coaches 4 yrs...guess that means everytime he comes to our great state of used car salesmen
Posted by pdhuff on July 26, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tigermanic44 - good view- Many on here don't realize how Phil is viewed around the conference. I used to live in Ga. Whew!
I feel the entire episode is equivalent to-Slingblade, "Hmmmm, taters,".......
Posted by jeff_govols on July 30, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Why not supoena every coach 2 days before they're scheduled to play your team. Why not supoena the star quarterback or running back the day of the game? What total nonsense.
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