Posted by ctownvol on July 22, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I actually started reading this until I noticed who wrote it.

Posted by spvol on July 22, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow! Adams actually mentioned Tennessee. Must be a mistake.

Posted by pdhuff on July 22, 2008 at 8:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We know.

You are correct, John.

Posted by tngeoff on July 22, 2008 at 8:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wise up all they want to...they still can't really beat the SEC.

Posted by gavol2572 on July 22, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and he said we have top 10 "potential"

Posted by ctownvol on July 22, 2008 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who said we have top 10 potential?

Posted by pearlific on July 22, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tennessee always has and always will have top 10 potential. Just keep picking them third in the East-it works well for the VOLS!

Posted by IPOrange on July 22, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's what we've known all along - the best players in the country want to play in the SEC.

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 22, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We always have top 10 potential but never actaully finish in the top 10. 2001 was the last time. Hey Foolmore.

Posted by volengr on July 22, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm pretty pissed he didn't say something like "Vols are God. Vols are my spouse. Vols are great. Vols are who I want to pro-create with. Vols are my food. Orange orange orange. Vols. Vols the Vols and Orange and Tennessee."
Him not like us. Him talk of other football teams sometime. Him suggest sometime Vols bad. I want him go to cornfield.

Hey, and I heard Adams doesn't even paint his car orange. I bet he kills kittens and laughs at retarted children.

Posted by hcjournals on July 22, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is The closest thing other SEC schools have to this website? I go to the city newspapers during the season, but slack off in the summer. If 99Gator and dcflorida like our site so well, what do they have to offer? What about GA? Bama? LSU? Thanks.

Posted by ctownvol on July 22, 2008 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volengr- Those are terrible things to say, but I hear he does hate old people.

Posted by ctownvol on July 22, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW- He laughs at "retarded" children. Ya know like mcbrim.

Posted by jawjavol on July 22, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams still not wising up to the country!

Posted by hcjournals on July 22, 2008 at 9:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Volengr-

I don't think you understand that it's one thing to be a homer. It's another to be objective, and yet another to show a clear vindictive side and try to pass it off as unbiased. We all saw it. That's why he catches grief. He has done some good articles since then, but it's hard to clean the slate when he pulled a minor league bow-up session with our coach. This website is one of the best in the country for this genre. The writers need to remember that and not make it look like they are writing for the 80th largest market, or wherever Knoxville is right now. Most the stories are good. But when the boss shows his lack of balance and then doesn't have the courage to face the music, or even debate the matter, he loses. He will have to come clean or he will eventually get sick of us, the fans. We are a forgiving group, but he has done the worst thing you can do as a journalist....Use your medium as a weapon....And he got caught, because he doesn't understand that this is, right or wrong, part of our lives. We are nice but we don't suffer fools lightly..............

Posted by banman360 on July 22, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

top ten potential.wow. looks like john is starting to lighten up. i wonder what he will say if he does an article on off field issues

Posted by ctownvol on July 22, 2008 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hcjournals- Very well put. VERY WELL!

Posted by volwalk on July 22, 2008 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with what hcjournals said.

Posted by tractoronthepole on July 22, 2008 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Best comment on Adams written to date hcjournals

Posted by VOLS85 on July 22, 2008 at 10:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

no problem with this article...I figured since I'm typically critical of Adams' input then it's only fair to let him know when the article isn't a complete bust...

Posted by BSweet on July 22, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kaplan must have asked Mr. Adams to throw us a bone with those UT references. Seriously Mr. Adams, thank you for finally mentioning the hometown Vols. Very refreshing indeed.

Posted by volengr on July 22, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals-
Yeah, I'm definately coming across too one-sided. It just grows tiring to see 4/5 comments pointed to Adams instead of his article, which I've enjoyed ever since my days at UT in the first half of the 90s. I've generally considered them objective(others arguably consider bias). And you're right about the coach article. That was uncalled for, not too mention suggesting the program is out of control and all Fulmer's fault was lazy. It just appears some are getting out of control. I just picture a mob with garden tools showing up at his doorsteps one day.
And as long as he gets the HOT sign on every article, he ain't going nowhere.

Posted by utchris2003 on July 22, 2008 at 11:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

volengr-

You mean kid of like the similar comments pointed at Fulmer and the mob with the garden tools and moving equipment at Fulmers doorstep? He ain't going nowhere either.

Posted by Bigger_Al on July 22, 2008 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope Ayers is asked about Tuscaloosa John and his showboat, self-serving articles at Media Day. Adams wants to be the premiere sports personality in Knoxville.

I'd really like to see Ayers throw Tuscaloosa John head-first into a dumpster. But then Coach Fulmer would face the conundrum of disciplining Ayers vs. high-fiving Ayers...

Posted by movol77 on July 23, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals, your summary observation on Mr. Adams is the best, concise, objective explanation I've read around here. Ever! Kudos.

Posted by LargeOrange on July 23, 2008 at 1:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals - you nailed it. JA you are still a small man hiding behind your keyboard and your bias is so transparent.

Posted by Hunter on July 23, 2008 at 2:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams states that the country is wising up to the SEC. Meanwhile, back at the Batcave......

John Adams is still wondering why all these people in Knoxville wear orange all the time. Is it the bear hunting? An especially large amount of prison work-release programs? An affinity for traffic barrels?????? More news at 11:00.....

Posted by UTvols12342000 on July 23, 2008 at 5:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals

spot on my friend.

and before everyone shouts (and also those who already have) ..."look, he put tennessee in there, the word tennessee appeared in one of his articles, see, he is so objective, told you", I reread this article a few times and I think he was asked to include Tennessee in his top 10 potential list (why would he call for the head coaches job if he thought they had top 10 potential EVEN with a new OC?, huh?) and then he gives token references to Parker and Berry (I want to break down his Berry compliment to show you how he slights the entire UT team, but I dont have the time, maybe later).

JA's articles may attract some hits here and he make generate some "HOT" articles, lol, but I know how people are around here. I know that my own liking of this website has been declining at a steady rate. In the long run, I think the short term gain JA's articles generate will not be enough to overcome the long term effects that such tactics cause in the mindset of the community. I like KNS less than when I joined this site.

Its just that I love the VOLS more and cant stay away!

top 10 potential yet Fulmer is outta control. what a joke.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 23, 2008 at 7:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No mention of Morely when discussing safeties. If he keeps his grades up, you will hear from him at season's end.

Posted by bloodrunsorange on July 23, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was one of the first to sign up and pay for this. I'll be honest, I liked it better then. It didn’t have any loud mouths spouting off that don’t really care about Tennessee anyway. I have deep personal feelings when it comes to Alabama, Vanderbilt, and yes Florida is working their way there too, but I don’t go to there main sports news outlets and show my disgust by the written word. Adams is by no means a person who I believe is objective when Tennessee is concerned. This is sad because of his market. Maybe Birmingham, New Orleans, Chicago, etc… fits him better when writing about Tennessee. I appreciate very much what hcjournals has written yesterday (July, 22).

Posted by auttat on July 23, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Has Eric Berry become so popular that they only need to mention his last name? Read through the whole article a 2nd time and I still see no mention of him before the 4th to last paragraph, which starts "Berry..."

Just looking out for you JA. Seems like you need it on here.

Posted by HotlantaVol on July 23, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A little over halfway into the article, "UT's best player is sophomore strong safety Eric Berry." and then 5 paragraphs later "Berry made a name for himself last season as a true freshmen."

Posted by OrangePower11 on July 23, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mcbrim...

You're still an ACR and we still own you as evidenced by your continual presence on our site...its bed time little brother, momma's callin.

Kindest Regards

Posted by richvol on July 23, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hcjournals...beeeutiful

Posted by ThurmondEppy on July 23, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why call him Tuscaloosa John when he went to LSU? Just wondering.

Posted by agentorange on July 23, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.adams is too old to connect with readers under 100.

Posted by hueypilot on July 23, 2008 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The "top ten potential" was a dig at Fulmer. Seems like an article could be there regarding what a tough job it is to compete and win the SEC East. Vols, SC, KY could all be pretty good teams but get steamrollered by FLA and GA. Or on the other hand we could have a repeat of last year where SEC teams beat each other up so the real sorry assed reporters, those from the East and the Midwest could, (again) tout Michigan or Ohio State and then watch one of them get disassembled in a bowl game or by the likes of Ap St and West Virginia and the other get punked again in a bowl game by an SEC team ranked behind them.

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on July 23, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 22, 2008 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We always have top 10 potential but never actaully finish in the top 10. 2001 was the last time. Hey Foolmore.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by WorkinLikeHeck on July 23, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We're a top 10 program according to our fans but can't seem to finish in the top 10 or win our conference.

Posted by mattlock on July 23, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Okay, its clear most of you hate JA and I'm not going to try to defend the man, but I do want to try to make a few points. Its not like he's the only writer in town questioning the job Fulmer has been doing. . .listen to what others are saying, for the most part they disagree with his raise AND think he has failed to meet expectations. Before the 5-6 season, there wasn't much criticism leveled at Fulmer even tough it was clear we were a program going through a lull. Since the pressure has been placed on Fulmer, he has hired new coaches, put renewed emphasis on recruiting and feels like he has something to proove. He doesn't want to be remember as a coach who was great early in his career, but who was later forced out because he couldn't live up to the expectation he set for himself. This pressure is a good thing, the media needs to question the job he has been doing. I want to see him take this opportunity and bring us back to national title contention. Just go do it and quit making excuses about how hard it is these days.

Posted by Volchaz on July 23, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Agree with HC. Also, the country might be wising up to the SEC and it's players, and remember how many teams have switched O-coordinators this year. There are plenty of unknowns. People have no idea what we'll run, or Aubie, or Bama, or Ole Miss, or Arky. There is plenty to discuss during Media days.

Posted by Bigger_Al on July 23, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ThurmondEppy - "Tuscaloosa John" is applied in the same manner as "Hanoi Jane". Jane Fonda spoke out against the US government, which was one thing. Then, she went on enemy Vietnamese radio to continue to rail against the US government, which was way over the line.

Adams wrote his chop article about Fulmer, which was one thing. Then, Paul Finebaum and Alabama radio put him on to broadcast venom to all the Bama fans, who already hate Fulmer because he wouldn't let them cheat.

Posted by RichRollin on July 23, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dang, with those names he mentioned, the top 10 picks in the 09'draft may come from the SEC!

Posted by TurboFan on July 23, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"You could argue that the Heisman race would have gone differently if the Big Ten could have provided a more attractive candidate."

Have to say JA has a pro-SEC slant. The above quote looks like a slap at the preferential treatment of the BigTe(leve)n by the national media. Either that or the dumbest sentence ever.

Posted by ctownvol on July 23, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Turbo- Consider the source. I'm going with choice B. Dumbest sentence ever.

Posted by iowavol on July 23, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mattlock, your point is sound (although some of your references have Mattlockisms - statements of utter conjecture made with such confidence as to be known fact). The problem is Adams has taken an oath of objectivity and violated it by making it his personal biases and his personal mission to spew - well - Adamsisms. Look at Epps article in today's Chattanooga Times Free Press. He's critical of the coach and where we will finish the year this year - but it is done so in a professional and objective manner. Adams is neither and does not represent KNS, The University of Tennessee or the FANS of UT with dignity or respect. Simply put, he is a joke in a lot of journalistic circles.

In response to a letter I wrote to him, the Editor in Chief of KNS wrote to me apologizing for how Adams is being perceived but rationalized that he was just stating his opinion. But that's really the issue, he is stating an opinion based on emotions and allegencies outside his audience base. While Adams tries to make you think he is being objective, he manipulates the data to prove his opinion rather than the reverse. Again, not to over simplify the consensus hatred for the man (because it is a perverse pleasure to dislike the moron), Adams has simply lost his journalistic (and manly) credibility in the state of Tennessee and the larger Big Orange Nation. Journalistic idealists would rather see him leave au contraire to the bean counter opinions.

Posted by BADGES0413 on July 23, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Iowavol,

That has to be the best response explaining the Adam's article on Fulmer, Good job.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 23, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you think so mr adams, the wac couldve had a say if they had provided a more attractive candidate.

Posted by marc_ash on July 23, 2008 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/771166.html

"Whereas Cutcliffe essentially phased the fullback out of UT's offense the past two seasons, the blocking back appears to be making a comeback under Clawson's guidance. No one is happier about this than Hardesty.

“It's always good to have a lead blocker in front of you,” he said. “This offense is geared more toward running the football. I think we're going to run the ball a lot more than we did last year, so I'm excited about that."

Exciting things to come...

Posted by marc_ash on July 23, 2008 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/770968.html

Posted by marc_ash on July 23, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://tennessee.scout.com/a.z?s=7&am...

Posted by LargeOrange on July 23, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by iowavol on July 23, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. The problem is Adams has taken an oath of objectivity and violated it by making it his personal biases ... Adams has simply lost his journalistic (and manly) credibility in the state of Tennessee and the larger Big Orange Nation.
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Very well put Iowavol. Below are the 2 of the 4 C-O-R-E V-A-L-U-E-S of the KNS. You can click on (About Us above if you want to see the full list) Let's see how JA stacks up against these. By going on Radio in Tuscalusa and Atlanta and spreading half-truths and clearly biased selection of information to support his thesis he violated both of these, IMO unless the community he serves includes UGA and UA/AU.

Our Core Values:

Integrity:
We are honest and truthful in our words and actions.

Community:
We are advocates of the greatest good; we serve the public. We reflect the community, its people, its culture, its diversity and its values.

Posted by marc_ash on July 23, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeO,

Watch out...Kaplan may hit the "suggest removal" button.

Posted by LargeOrange on July 23, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know Mark, I got my first one of those on Monday. But, I feel for the guy, I wouldn't want to have to defend JA for a living. :-)

Posted by TommyJack on July 23, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc: re the fullback. That's tremendous news, IMO.

Posted by murrayvol on July 23, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TurboFan & ctownvol: The sentence in question has little or nothing to do w/SEC preference or dumbness. It's speaks to the fact that if you add up Big Ten & Notre Dame Heisman winners, you'll be within a lob wedge of half the total.

I think "the" Ohio State University has as many as the SEC combined.

Posted by RichRollin on July 23, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Marc, NICE!!

Posted by TurboFan on July 23, 2008 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Murray, how is that different from what I said? Perceived bias toward midwest teams over others, specifically SEC (which has fewer than any other major geographic region) is the meaning I get from Adams line.

Or just a dumb sentence.

Posted by invisiblekid on July 23, 2008 at 4:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amen General H20Melon at 7:42. I have high hopes for Foster as well. Clawson likes getting the ball to his RB's.

Personally, I don't care what the rest of the country thinks of the SEC. We usually do our talking on the field during the bowl season.

Posted by murrayvol on July 23, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TurboFan: Point taken. I just don't think the bias is perceived. It's real. What UF & LSU did the last two years has made clear to a broader cross section of the natl. media what most SEC fans (and media) have known for years.

What if those games had been squeakers?

I'll never forget Bo Schembechler saying he would never vote an SEC team #1. At least he was honest.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 23, 2008 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what is a fullback ?

Posted by iowavol on July 23, 2008 at 7:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vols73 - you are on to something. How can we contact these companies with a list of Vol Fans who will no longer purchase their products as long as John Adams remains employed at KNS? How much does a half page add cost at KNS - I might pay for it myself?

Posted by GerryOP on July 23, 2008 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All of you folks ranting about John Adams, why don't you just look elsewhere for your Vol news? There are plenty of other sources out there. Cancel GVX and demand your money back. VolNation gives a pretty broad perspective on Vol sports -- and it's free!

But whatever you do, keep posting on John Adams articles! Keep that posting count up! You are helping John Adams win another TSWA award!

Posted by TommyJack on July 23, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vols0073: Have you lost your mind?

Posted by GerryOP on July 23, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, what mind?

Posted by Colliervol on July 23, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nafslov, one other thing that Manning will have that Tebow won't: The NFL Hall of Fame. I don't call it "hype" when you are talking about one of the best QB's (and nicest guys) to ever put on the pads. His record backs it up and you can't argue the point. So give it up. You're just talking to yourself now.

Dittos to hcjournals and to bloodrunsorange. Bloodrunsorange, it truly was amazing how much trash that $4.00 a month kept off here. Oh for the good old days.

Posted by RichRollin on July 23, 2008 at 8:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't forget that shiny superbowl ring that Peyton has, BLING BLING BABY!!!!!!

Posted by Colliervol on July 23, 2008 at 9 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't need to read the post again naf. Even in trying to compliment Manning, you had to try to denigrate him with the first two in the list. No hype in Manning. He is what you see. Very genuine person and he makes money because of it. Why? Because he is believable as a pitch man. That's why everybody wants him in their commercials along with the fact he now has a Super Bowl ring. (That's Marketing 101 in case you were wondering.)

Oh, and I think Tebow will set foot on an NFL field. Somebody is going to give him a shot. And remember, he has two more years to improve his passing. He has a strong enough arm to play in the NFL but he has to learn to read defenses and to play in the pocket more. He certainly will not be able to do his little running tricks in the pros. They will kill him. Instead of 230 lb LB's hitting him, there are 260 lb LB's who are faster than he is. And they delight in busting up QB's who fancy they can run. Can you imagine him running into Ray Lewis or Bryan Urlacher on one of his little journeys around end? I'd pay to see that.

Posted by Colliervol on July 23, 2008 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

McBrim, as good as Tebow is, surely you aren't comparing his pro potential to Manning. College is an entirely different game than the pros. There are plenty of college QB's with better passer ratings (and Heismans) that couldn't make it. Manning is plenty accurate but really excels with his ability to read defenses and to control the game. What I'm saying is that Tebow will not be able to scare NFL defenses with his running. NFL QB's primarily have to rely on their arms. Whether Tebow can do that or not remains to be seen. But I think he'll get his chance.

Posted by cdldoc on July 23, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These posts were a lot more interesting than the article. Except for nafslov, who is obviously John Adams or some other lowlife.

Posted by BornNBredAVol on July 23, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Colliervol, you are right on target, tebow is a physical specimen i admit and a heck of a guy off the field (sure the circumcisions are pretty weird) but peyton was a perfect fit for the pros and he studied the game more than anyone else does which is why he is so good along with incredible work ethic

Posted by Colliervol on July 23, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK so his passing capability in college is ahead. If you go on percentages, I'll grant you that. But,exactly how do you know that translates to the pros considering that plenty of top notch college QB's and Heisman winners have failed miserably? In my view, Tim's running capability against college defenses gives him a huge advantage in setting up the pass. He won't have that luxury in the pros. Those defenses won't buy those little run fakes and will light him up if he hesitates for one moment. That's why I think he has to improve his passing even more along with the ability to read defenses. Again, the NFL is just an entirely different game for a QB.

Posted by TommyJack on July 23, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vols0073: This is a joke, right?

Posted by TurboFan on July 23, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vols73, did you notice your nose is spiting your face with a knife?

McB, excellent statement by Mr. Tebow, bright kid. Understanding that there are aspects to being a great football player beyond pure athleticism. A concept entirely beyond Nafslov's grasp.

Posted by VOLstuckINky on July 24, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I didn't know 8 wins would get you in the top ten?

Go figure .......

Posted by murrayvol on July 24, 2008 at 11:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Collier: All you've said is right on target re: Tebow's pro potential. NFL defenses require a qb to read, process, and throw where the play is going to be (and that's a very narrow window).

Maybe he'll get there, but his college stats will have nothing to do with it.