Posted by ctownvol on July 19, 2008 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton will be FINE! Go Vols!

Posted by TommyJack on July 19, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sounds about right.

Posted by Michael1204 on July 19, 2008 at 10:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the key for Crompton is exactly what Clawson said. "he doesn't have to win the game on every play."

Crompton needs to be effective and productive, not necessarily flashy. If a QB can work on just being effective and being a good game manager, the rest will fall into place IMO.

Posted by iowavol on July 19, 2008 at 10:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I expect our QB play to much improved this year over the last few years. Not taking anything away from what Erik was able to accomplish, but Crompton brings another diminsion we haven't seen since Heath Shuler.

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't wait to finally have a QB that can move since Tee.

Posted by gwaidley on July 19, 2008 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah, I generally agree with everything said so far. I just hope Crompton doesn't run around too much and get hurt. Doesn't sound like we stand much of a chance against SEC competition with Nick or BJ in there - at least not yet.

Posted by GreerVol22 on July 19, 2008 at 10:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just remember that your no Tebow, so act like it.

Posted by budrhon on July 19, 2008 at 10:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just hand it to Foster and move out the way!

Posted by awhill00 on July 19, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton is gonna rock. I think the Vols will be much better than prognosticated in pre-season mags and such. We will know more after the first three games. I want some GATOR this year. GO VOLS!!

Posted by KingsportVol on July 19, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Greer your right. Crompton does not like to play with meat cigars. iowavol your on point. He will be the most exciting QB we have had since Shuler. He is going to bring something to our offense that we haven't had in 4 years.

Posted by DennisVols on July 19, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I watched Crompton in the '06 LSU game. With very limited practice time with the 1st team offense and being put in after Ainge was hurt he came in and did the job. Just one turnover in the game. He threw the ball on a line and could put it down the field.
UT will have more mobility in Crompton, greater arm strength and above all else a Offensive cord. with more than 3 plays in his book (run up the middle, short sideline pass,punt).

Posted by Silent_Fulmer on July 19, 2008 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

has anyone started the countdown to Foolmer telling us that Football is played in pads?

Posted by JCVol85 on July 20, 2008 at midnight (Suggest removal)

I don't think this is going to be the normal situation of having a new quarterback at the helm. Crompton has been here for three years already and has some experience. He may make some mistakes early in the season, but by at least the Bama game I think he will look like an SEC veteran QB.

Posted by steve22043 on July 20, 2008 at 12:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't want to belittle Ainge while he was the starter, but always thought Crompton would turn out to be the better QB. As time has gone along I like his attitude more and more. I think he'll be one of our all time greats

Posted by RichRollin on July 20, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kinda reminds me of Jay Cutler, especially the cannon arm.

Posted by HilltopperVolPhi608 on July 20, 2008 at 12:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Crompton will bring what Ainge didn't, intensity. I can't remember what game it was but it was either Arkansas or LSU and Crompton came in for Ainge and one of the first plays that he is in the game and he takes off running down the sideline and completely runs over a defensive back. I believe Crompton will be a great quarterback for the next two years and I CAN'T WAIT until the season starts at UCLA, which by the way I am probably going to. Kind of random, but how much would you give to run through the "T"?

Posted by alavol on July 20, 2008 at 12:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope the football Magazines rate us low, because when they rate us high we lay a goose egg! Let all the other heros have their faces plastered all over the front pages. Work hard and work smart, we'll get there. Beat both Alabama teams, Florida and Georgia. Let Spurrier have his fun.

Posted by RichRollin on July 20, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

http://tennessee.rivals.com/video.asp... Hey hilltoper, that was against LSU when he ran over the DB and I loved it as well!! This video is Crompton in HS. Watch the 5th play, looks like he has been plowing over DB's for years!!

Posted by andy112382 on July 20, 2008 at 12:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton will be perfectly fine at QB. I hope anyone who looks at scrimmages realizes they run a lot of scripted plays, asking the QB to attempt certain passes to test certain situations. Granted, some INTs are strictly his fault, but some may come as a matter of doing what the coaches ask to test the teams strengths and weaknesses. Spring game is probally a better look into the future of the season, and if that is the case, I am one happy Vol fan!!!

Posted by HilltopperVolPhi608 on July 20, 2008 at 12:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DaddyVol, good video. Granted he did run over that guy, but that is a far cry from the SEC DB's he is seeing this year.

Posted by TK on July 20, 2008 at 1:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Laughing....sorry everytime I see Ainge's name now I think of Fulmer saying he could start as a rookie for the Jets.

Posted by WereInTrouble on July 20, 2008 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We're in the middle of a propaganda blitz. Get everyone enthused and they will ignore how bad it is over at 'The Good Ole' Boy's Club', buy their tickets, fill the seats and everything will be alright. The university makes money and the sheep will be so blind they won't add us the losses and see what a failure 'The Warden' really is. Sorry, anyone but a fool can see through the propaganda. I'm not rushing anywhere to buy a ticket.

Posted by volfan73120 on July 20, 2008 at 2:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trouble- I don't think anyone cares whether you buy a ticket or not.

Posted by cdldoc on July 20, 2008 at 2:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Finally a quarterback with some wheels! Maybe we can quit throwing at the sidelines. If we can throw downfield some, Foster will set some records since he seems to have figured out how to hold onto the ball.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 2:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey trouble,

when you have something to add to the conversation besides your disdain for the university, I'm sure people will start listening...until then, you're a joke, just like your cohort or two in crime...

Posted by kbart4033 on July 20, 2008 at 2:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

WereInTrouble--good to hear you're not rushing to buy a ticket. Last I checked, we were sitting No.1
in the nation's toughest division. That must be a
real bummer for your negative butt Suggestion:
get a life--and change your name to
GlassIsHalfEmpty!

Posted by jhmclain on July 20, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trouble - I usually don't say much on here and when I do it is something quick about the game, team or a play. Don't have much to say directly to the other posters because evryone has an opinion just like everyone has an ---hole and you sir are the real thing! Go root for Bama as I will root for the Vols no matter what happens. And no I am not a diehard Fulmer fan as I also was calling for his head after the Bama game last year. Since my first game watching them on TV back in '68 I have had orange blood in my veins and it will be orange until the day I leave this earth.

Posted by KingsportVol on July 20, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RIP Ashley

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 7:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't remember the name of the analyst, but he followed Crompton's highschool days closely. I remember him saying Vol fans want to compare JC to Heath Shuler, but that he thinks his game is much closer to Andy Kelly's game. I do know JC is not as fast as Heath, but he is much more mobile than Ainge, and even Dupree was more mobile than Clauson. I think the decision making part will be rough at first....kind of like Tee Martin in 1998. Will Fulmer hold him back the same way until he cuts down on the mistakes. The SEC is a tough place to break in a new QB. The O&W Game made me feel like we do have an SEC QB who can make plays though. I just wish he had an easier game than UCLA to start.

Posted by zanebreeding on July 20, 2008 at 7:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Crompton is a solid player , not so sure hes even close to garnering comparisons to Heath Shuler at all though. He will struggle some , thats probably his biggest downfall is that intensity and attitude. Hes got to keep it in check and not get carried away because we all know that leads to turnovers and bad decisions. As long as he understands his ability and what he can do he should be fine. Thats what was great about Ainge that people dont realize , he never forced the issue , always gave us another shot , he knew what he could do and what throws he could make. Never tried to be more than what he was. I think in that sense Crompton could take a page from E Ainge. He is MORE mobile than Ainge and Clausen but lets not get carried away either , i wouldnt exactly say hes got so called "legs". Hes def no burner , hes not gonna get ya 75 yards rushing a game , he might pick up 3 or 4 here and there when otherwise we get nothing but thats about it. By no means is he going to be running the football much. Im not sure which play he ran over a DB in that game , i must have missed it but id stray away from that kind of thing too. All we need is him getting his head knocked off in the first game trying to prove something to everyone. We all know he is capable of good things and now its his turn , as long as he doesnt have that "Ill show you what youve been missing out on" chip i believe he will excell by next year. Hopefully he will harness that intensity to the right areas and lead us to some good things this and next year.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Heath Shuler's don't come around very often. To even compare JC to Heath is unfair.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Daddy - Thanks for the film on JC. He's got the skills to be a quality SEC QB. I agree with the article. He just doesn't need to try and do too much and work on the decision making.

Posted by eb502us on July 20, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton has been the best QB on the team the past 3 years. Cutcliffe was just to clueless to see it.

Posted by pdhuff on July 20, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen W, "More mobile than Ainge"?

Say it ain't so.

Can he reach row 31?

Posted by blhvols on July 20, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Trouble, you can't afford your trailer payment much less a Vol football ticket. I bet you don't turn on that FREE Tv or radio either !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by tngeoff on July 20, 2008 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HilltopperVolPhi608.

Agree: Great video by DaddyVol

You may have missed the hit he was referring to in the LSU game against an SEC defensive back. Just as sol;id if not moreso.

Anyone who thinks he has an attitude: bs

Looking forward to seeing him and Coach Clawsons new offensive system and the rest of what should be the best offense in the SEC offense play. That according to me.

Posted by BigMix on July 20, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Go Vols!

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 9:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

No one will be able to reach row 31 as accurately or as quickly as Ainge.

Actually, I liked Ainge's skills and I appreciate him coming to UT. With that said, I don't think he met his full potential given how good he was as a Freshmen. He could make throws that Peyton Manning could not as a true Freshmen. It seems he struggled after the Notre Dame injury. Must have been quite a hit because he was never the same in the pocket.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

eb502 8:45: You're not too far off.

Posted by KingsportVol on July 20, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chavis is having his baby shower at Golden Corall today 3 pm.

Posted by arkyvol on July 20, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i hope the writer is right. the only game i've seen him start was the 06 game in fayetteville. there may have been worse performances by a vol quarterback, but none come to mind. of course, that fiasco was truly a team effort.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 10:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kingsport: Advice..don't get caught in between the Chief and the buffet line. Could be ugly.

Posted by mparker on July 20, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ainge and clausen were very accurate passers (mostly), and there stats back it up. the clawson is exactly right, and some posters here....crompton has to play 'in the offense' and not force things.

crompton has the opp, a big one: he can work had on his d-making and accuracy, and use his feet to buy time, and be a real star. or, he can just wing it and try to throw through defenders.

I'll say one thing: jon crompton is ready from a maturity standpoint. I like what I read about his attitude and work habits.

good luck Jon.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton would have some experience if coach Cut would have let him play. dont understand how you can go all season with a senior qb and not get your projected qb of next year a little playing time!

Posted by KingsportVol on July 20, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks TJ.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ - agree. Real ugly! Ever read the book or seen the movie Alive?

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

longtime: And an INJURED senior QB. Incredibly stupid on Cutcliff's part.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

arkyvol - worse QB performances? How about AInge at LSU with the behind the back pass in the end zone. Classic! I think Ainge was hurt on that play and they substituted Dupree.

Posted by Navalorange on July 20, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can someone tell me if they do these position/group articles every year? I only started reading this site regularly during last season. Does Edwards always do it? I know a lot of it is already known by most, but it is interesting and we get some coach and player comments too.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 10:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tennessee should have played Crompton more against Arky State - a blow out that only served to pat Ainge's stats.

Posted by THE_VOL on July 20, 2008 at 10:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Kool-Aid is flowing freely isn't it boys???!!! Funny how EVERYBODY is gonna be "fine" and "great" in July but I wonder what the excuses will be in Sept, Oct and November???? Injury? Crompton has yet to prove he can stay on the field. Certainly not hoping but I'll bet he doesn't play a whole season this year either. Inexperience???? Three years, 48% completion rate, and NOBODY to back him up. Ole FOOLmer does a great job recruiting and developing doesn't he???? Interesting that so many want to go back to the LSU game with Crompton but very few want to look at the ARK game???? Selective memories abound!

But if ole EB says Crompton has been the best for 3 years they I'm sure he was! That's why he played so much folks! Clueless??? Yep that's old EB!!!

The Perfect Storm II is barrelling down on K-town folks so hide the women and children, stock up on the Magic Dust, and just wait for those FREE tickets to start flying! This could be ugly!

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Last season was a classic study in How NOT to Handle your QB's. Shameful.

Posted by KingsportVol on July 20, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ: agreed with you since day one on the QB issue.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, Cut didn't want a qb controversy! did i spell that right? his thinking might have been, LETS GET AINGE THROUGH THIS YEAR, IM OUTTA HERE ANYWAY!!!

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

longtime: I think you're right...much to his discredit.

Posted by VOLinDAWGland on July 20, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cutcliff positives:
- attention to detail
- demands discipline
- structured and effective practices
- game prep
- passing game coordinator

negatives:
- stubborn (injured Ainge or Crompton, lack of Crompton play time)
- unimaginative offensive scheme
- predictable play calling
- poor in game adjustments
- poor running game coordinator

Overall did good things for TN, was probably the right medicine for the sick offense that Sanders' left, but glad we're moving in another direction. Probably took the Duke job for all the right reasons and was probably highly encouraged to take it by Fulmer. I think Fulmer wanted and wants to cement his legacy with a successful run without Cutcliffe...and hope he succeeds.

Posted by Navalorange on July 20, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ouch, just saw that Ashley got the death penalty.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i think we'll pound the rock at UCLA. If we can get thru that game and get back home, we'll be in good shape!

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I ask this from time to time on different threads so here it goes again:

Being realistic and with our schedule-

1.what do you think our best case scenario will be this year (wins and loss record)?

2. worst case?

3. Probable record?

I love my mighty vols and always positive, some say too positive, and I will go to every home game and a couple of away games regardless of record.

In my opinion, we wil most likely go 9-3 this year (loss to Florida, GA, Auburn).

I think crompton will be okay if we do NOT have to play from behind which is a concern, as I have a feeling our front 7 will struggle in Sept and early october.

Posted by cjraney on July 20, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

1994-
1. Best case: one SEC loss
2. Worst case: three SEC losses
3. 10-2 regular season

FLA will lose in Neyland, but go on to win the SEC and play for BCS title. Vols will likely fall to AUB if we beat UF, if not we edge the war tigers on the road.

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CJraney- do you think we will be play in natl title game again under fulmer?

I do but folks think I am crazy when i say this.
If we only lose one game this year then we will win the SEC east and possilby compete for a Natl title if we win the SEC... Of course that is not probable but I do think a one loss team will play for the NC again... but not a two loss team.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

best case would be to get past UCLA with a W.get Jon and receivers tuned up for FLA. win that one,which we will, PAYBACK you know! then get on a roll. my only concern is Georgia and Auburn on the road. have to wait to see how we are playing by that time. best case? 12-0 worst? 9-3 we should know more after that first game

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

12-0 would be awesome!

Posted by LanceR24 on July 20, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

what happened to ashley, and who is going to give us our countdown lol?

Posted by Vols1998 on July 20, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The schedule poses many issues and I believe our results will hinge on QB decisions under pressure and the D-Line putting pressure on the other team's QB....sounds pretty simple, but we have the tools to go the the SEC Championship again and on to a BCS...IF everyone stays healthy.

Go Vols!!

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes it would, the VOLS usually put it together when no one expects them to! but sorry, we probably lose in sec championship game in a rematch with Auburn! dont see Phil gettin another one. Tommys turn

Posted by ButchIsBack on July 20, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ainge will start for the Jets before the season is over. Haters and the jealous beware.

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It may not be this year nor next, but Fulmer and the VOLS will win a SEC title by 2012 and probably compete for the natl title.

I just have a feeling that will happen and then Fulmer will leave UT.... He initially said 4 more years then changed it to 8-10 years but if he has success by 2012 then his wife Vicky will convince him to leave. she wants him to leave now but.........

Posted by grvol on July 20, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It will be great to finally have an athletic QB in there again. No more flipper-foot Clausens or Ain't gonna get hit Ainges. Hopefully the dink and Duke is gone. Watched a replay last night of last year's Vandy game. The quick dinks and dunks to stationary receivers for no yardage was painful to watch. Ainge getting rid of it quick over the middle for just 3 yards on third and 9 was even more painful. I for one won't miss having a candy at QB.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

grvol: Then I'm guessing you don't agree with Butch 12:12? Are you a hater or jealous? Got to be one or the other, right?

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

maybe they just needed to get Colquit more experience!

Posted by RJ_Vol on July 20, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

For the record, I liked Casey and Erik. I feel they were very good QB's. But, I am so excited to actually have a QB that will be a threat to run the football! It will force defenses to stay at home, and that opens up all kinds of options. If they don't stay at home, look for Crompton to be running in wide open space for long gains. Understandably, I think Coach Clawson is trying to deflect high expectations and is very even in his comments about Jon Crompton. However, I think the coaching staff knows they have a very athletic competitor in Crompton. Seems like he grew up a Vol. He knows the honor it is to wear the Orange and White!

Posted by grvol on July 20, 2008 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm a hater I quess. I hated watching Ainge dink and dunk. Jealous? No. Elated? Yes.

Posted by cjraney on July 20, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1994-
Any team winning the SEC with one L has an excellent shot to play for the Nat'l Title. I think our best shots are 2009 & 2010, allowing Clawson to get his offense clicking but before the rest of the league picks up on any tendencies.

2009 would seem to be the Vols best shot if Crompton develops, D-line transfers materialize, and the existing young skill players are as good as they appear.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chuck & duck

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i dont care for that chuck and duck system either!

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Johnathan is going to be the best thing to lace it up at quarterback since the Peyton/Martin Era. No question. He has the intensity and the desire that was never present in Eric Ainge. He should have played basketball like his uncle if he was gonna be that scared to take a hit that he just throws the ball over his shoulder behind his back to the other team. LOL. Cant wait for somebody with some edge and attitude and swag to take the snaps.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

just get a couple games under his belt and this offense is going to take off! just hide and watch!

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope Crompton has an awesome career at UT but for those stating Ainge was afraid to take a hit, etc then why did the coaches decide to play
Ainge over Crompton. The coaches #1 objective is to win Games so....

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The politics and the donations involved with the Ainge family are why Eric started. And Crompton's initial shoulder injury as well. Crompton should have been on the field. Why would you make a 5 star stud ride the pine for a 3 star no heart qb unless it is due to the fact that his uncle danny ainge pulled a few strings made a few donations and the rest is history. You will see after these next two seasons that Crompton should have been in the game. Ainge should have been on the pine.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jon has the toughness it takes to play in the SEC. he may take a few chances but as they say, NO PAIN, NO GAIN! so what if you throw a pick on 3rd and 10.your gonna punt anyway! just throw it close to their goaline. NO OURS!

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cromptons desire and grit are obvious. You just see it in him when he is on the field. Never saw that in Ainge. Maybe because of Cromptons football background. You must realize he was also a safety in high school and led the team in tackles as well as doubling as the starting quarterback. This kid is a complete beast of an athelete.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hate say it but think tebow minus a lil speed but with a lil better arm when it comes to crompton

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thats alright, i'll take it! about time Jon gets his shot at it. he IS a FOOTBALL PLAYER!!!

Posted by vol1994 on July 20, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks for the feedback guys..
I hope you are right about Jon crompton.

I saw him up close warming up @ outback bowl without pads.. definitely a big speciman..

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

as long as he dont kiss his roommy on the tube!ha ha

Posted by pdhuff on July 20, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ, is it safe to say you won't be tuning into any Duke Blue Devil outings?

Or be seen with a Dook cap!

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"1.what do you think our best case scenario will be this year (wins and loss record)?"

12-0. There isn't a team on the schedule UT is incapable of beating.

"2. worst case?"

6-6. USC, UF, UGA, Aub, Bama, and UCLA are all situations in which UT could lose.

"3. Probable record?"

10-2 seems the most likely. I think they'll beat UF but stand a good chance of losing to UGA on the road plus either Aub or USC. I believe UT should be a better team than either but there will probably be a let down somewhere.

Auburn is a road game following a big home game against UF. USC is a road game following a big home game against Bama.

Posted by TurboFan on July 20, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=zDmxpvl...

Hope this link works. About a minute in is the Crompton hit on the DB.

Posted by TurboFan on July 20, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Didn't work, go to youtube look for Tennessee vs LSU from GrossE254.

TNGeoff, how do you work your magic?

Posted by chris_ann on July 20, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IF HE PLAYS LIKE HE PLAYED IN THE ORANGE AND WHITE GAME.. WE SHOULDNT HAVE NO PROBLEMS GOING UNDEAFED... BUT I DONT THINK WE WILL CAUSE HE IS TO (COCKY)

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nafslov,

Why do you turn every conversation into a diatribe on Peyton Manning? He isn't even a topic of conversation, but yet you won't shut up about your hate for him and your love affair for Conredge and Tee...get over it buddy

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nafslov you hit it right on the head with that one. Crompton will give us that tee martin mobility we been missing at QB for 10 years. Last time we won it we had a mobile QB and just got rid of the overhyped payton who never won anything which is what its all about at the end of the day. Dan Marino had stats and i know he would trade all those numbers for a super bowl ring. Likewise with payton and his lack of trophies in college. He would trade in all his UT records if it meant he would have a national championship ring. Nafslov for Prez 2012.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just feels like the start of that magical 08 season when we got rid of Payton(all the hype no trophies) Manning and got a mobile QB and look what happened. Out with payton hype and in with mobile Tee= championship. Same thing out with the Overhyped Ainge(no trophies) and in with the mobile Crompton= much better shot at National Championship this year.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crisann, Jon is not cocky.he just plays football like you're supposed to! casey clausen was cocky! but he could back it up!

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Again, you didn't answer my question...

Why do you have to turn this into a diatribe on Manning, as no one here has said anything about him? This article has nothing to do with Manning. He played here 11 years ago, and you still pitch a tired and pointless message about him.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PD, 2:47: Correcto Moondo. Cutcliff most overrated coach in memory. He should kneel at the alter of the Mannings.

Posted by tngeoff on July 20, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TurboVol:

Here ya' go. It's 1:26 in. E N J O Y!

http://youtube.com/user/GrossE254?ob=1

Posted by tngeoff on July 20, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I mean TurboFan.

My bad...please forgive me!

Posted by tngeoff on July 20, 2008 at 4:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man...I love watching that hit and can't wait to see more like it!

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Why do you turn every conversation into a diatribe on Peyton Manning?"

Probably because Manning was simultaneously a great player and white. nafslov is in the habit of calling white players wasted jerseys. He's in the habit of downplaying anything white players accomplish. He'll only name subpar black players when cornered. It really doesn't matter what statistical evidence you put in front of the guy's face...

For instance, it couldn't have been the defensive players (predominantly black) who allowed over 40 ppg to UF during Manning's time as QB... had to be Manning's fault. In the two years Martin started, UT allowed 17 and 23 pts to UF... but it had to have been Martin who made the difference.

UT's D allowed half the ppg to UF while Martin happened to be starting as they did when Manning was starting. He'll find some way of spinning that away too...

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vols85 please get off the payton manning defense team and tell me exactly what he did that was so great that you must exist as a flea on that mans balls. He was a good college QB. Get over it he didn't bring anything of any importance back home to knoxville and i'm not a colts fan so to hell with what he has done in the NFL. People kill me treating Payton like god and Tee Martin like a second rate UT QB when he brought it home and went undefeated. To me Tee martin had a more successful college career than Payton. Forget all the stats just tell me how many rings he brought home to good ole rocky top just answer that question and i won't mention Payton being all hype ever again. Then tell me how many Tee Martin brought home and there you have it, Tee was a better college QB not NFL, college QB so please save the but where is he now comments this is a college site not NFL. He had the same team as Payton pretty much and went undefeated so you go figure. Didn't Payton go 0-4 against Florida. And didn't Payton get his a** handed to him by memphis and did he ever win the big game. I rest my case. Nafslov i was gonna run for Prez in 2012 but i would be willing to jump on your ticket as VP. Lets Turn the white house orange. lol

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, even considering UT didn't score against UF in Manning's Freshman year... Manning's O's STILL scored more on avg against UF than Martin's O's did. 86 pts in 4 games versus 41 pts in two games... 21.5 ppg versus 20.5. Throw out Manning's Fr year and he avg'd just shy of 30 ppg.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean, see my post. Manning played well enough to win but wasn't matched by a good D. Martin was carried by a great D in big games.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, I liked Martin. I wasn't a huge Manning fan... just a personal preference.

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yea, but can Tee lead a band? i doubt it. case closed! on to this year!

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And here goes sjt18 trying to turn this into a race discussion which it obviously wasn't. If we are saying Crompton is going to give us what Tee Martin gave us meaning mobility at QB not a Black QB. Sorry you can't get over the fact Payton never won SH*T at UT and Tee Martin did. I know it really hurt when woodson beat him out for heisman. You probably shed a tear that day huh? The better college player on the better team that year won the Heisman. Sorry. Key word college, of course Payton is and has been better in the NFL than Woodson or Martin but we are talking college football here fellas please remember that. And please don't try to blame Paytons lackluster career with no trophies on the defense. Get real. Always wanna point the blame elsewhere. The fact remains Payton never won Sh*t and your subpar arguement won't change that sjt18.

Posted by 55Vol on July 20, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone care what Silent Fulmer, Workinlikeheck,CRVOL has to say? Coming a from a tick turd...

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike,

you are blind to my point, completely blind! I am not supporting pEyton or Tee! I asked why nafslov has to rag on Manning all the time! He posts on articles that have nothing to do with either quarterback, is the exact same message every time, and it accomplishes nothing!

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What surname is CRVOL or VOLCR under now?

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh ok vols85 i see what your saying but after reading my posts give me your opinion on what i'm saying.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why does crvol or volcr keep changing his name? just curious.

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't recall any posts dissing Tee Martin. Au contraire.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"And here goes sjt18 trying to turn this into a race discussion which it obviously wasn't."

Look back over nafslov's posting history... he's been called on it before.

I honestly don't care about race. Period. I do care about facts. The fact is that Manning made a greater contribution to his teams than Martin did. Martin happened to play on a team with one of the best two defenses UT ever had. The statistics bear out both of these facts. I'm not saying Martin was a bad QB... he was very good. He wasn't as good as Manning... and he didn't "bring it home"... he was just a cog in the machine.

Facts are stubborn things that all the denial in the world won't change.

FACT: the UT D between 94-97 allowed 40.25 ppg to UF and never allowed less than 31.

FACT: the D's of 98-99 allowed 20 ppg to UF.

FACT: Martin's O's scored barely 20 ppg.

FACT: Manning's O's scored nearly 30 ppg... if you don't count his Fr year (only fair since the starter was being determined at that time after Colquitt and Helton went down)

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And for the record i only referred to Ryan Karl as wasted jersey yesterday because he was, not because he is white. James Banks, Lamarcus Coker, need i continue we have had more black atheletes with amazing potential that ended up being wasted jerseys for off the field reasons than we have had white players like Karl that were on the field wasted jerseys. Just to be real with you. A wasted jersey is a wasted jersey regardless of color and regardless of if it is a wasted jersey due to on or off field reasons. Lets try not to bring race into it because it wasn't even an issue in this discussion.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Why does crvol or volcr keep changing his name? just curious."

I think he keeps getting tossed off the board for being a troll.

Posted by bobbarbilly on July 20, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nafslov, concerning your 3:54 post, in 2012 will you be running on the anti-Manning platform and who will you choose as your vp running mate?

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 4:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know you very well... I've been here long enough to have seen proof that nafslov's posts are consistently racist.

Karl was no more a wasted jersey than say Reynolds... or any of a number of other black players who started and contributed but weren't standouts.

Mayo said that Karl was a valuable member of the starting D... That's good enough for me. He probably knows better than you, nafslov, or me.

Another guy nafslov likes to call a wasted jersey is Will Bartholomew in spite of the fact he was an outstanding lead blocker, was drafted, and had his career cut short by an injury.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you're asking me to be a Peyton homer and explain why a lot of people like him, I think there's a fair number of reasons.

- He broke and now owns 30 UT records, won an SEC championship, holds 4 SEC records

- He has donated $1 million to UT, in the mean time serving as an ambassador for UT in the NFL (which helps with recruits).

- He formed a charity called Peyback in 1999 and has donated to Hurricane Katrina relief, CASA (a foundation for neglected and abused children), Boys and Girls Club, Second Harvest Food Bank, etc. and received the Walter Payton Man of the Year award in 2006.

more info: http://www.peytonmanning.com/Pages/Ma...

- Regardless of whether or not you care about the NFL, most want to see Vols do well in the NFL. Peyton has done an excellent job there:
# 8x Pro Bowl selection (1999, 2000, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007)
# 6x All-Pro selection (1999, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006)
# 2x AP NFL MVP (2003, 2004)
# Indianapolis Colts All-time leader(Passing Touchdowns)
# Pro Bowl MVP (2005)
...amongst many other great awards.

So the guy did an excellent job at the University and for the University, has done great things after college, and when you hear your buddy nafslov call him a "braggart", it's really sad...Peyton does amazing things to help out the community and has touched thousands of lives in a positive way.

I'm not one to compare quarterbacks, that is what you and nafslov want to do, I just don't think it is fair to call certain players wasted jerseys and draw comparisons when they all did excellent things for UT...

Posted by bobbarbilly on July 20, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VOLS85, tell it like it is!!

Posted by invisiblekid on July 20, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Crompton will have a successful season if for no other reason than the fact that the offense returns 9 starters.

Not sure how much rope Crompton is given early on though. I don't think it's fair to base an opinion on the past because I feel the "Guru" Cutcliffe and Clawson have different philosophies. I do think we'll see more of Arian Foster, Taylor, and Jeff Cottam catching the underneath crossing patterns instead of the 2-3 yard out. I also expect we'll see bootlegs and play action with more than 2 passes a game going 20 yards down field.

The Shuler comparisons are unfair. Given the dearth of experience behind Crompton, I doubt we'll see him running much. The option was a part of the playbook back when Shuler played with him running some QB keepers.

I still don't buy into slamming Ainge, he did what he was told to do and wasn't the one making the decision to start himself with a bum shoulder and finger that limited the playbook. He also didn't telegraph the play-calling for Zenon in the SECCG. That being said, Crompton's footwork and ball-handling looks better in that high school video posted by DaddyVol than Ainge as a senior IMO. And it goes without saying that Crompton will take a hit.

There will be some overall growing pains as Crompton settles into the job. It'll be offset though by breaking 25 year old tendencies under the Walt Harris school of offense and a healthy QB working with a full playbook.

Posted by eefor10c on July 20, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Kaplan,

Comments of RIP Ashley, Chavis is having his baby shower both seem to be off topic and Crompton doesn't like to play with meat cigars is offensive--yet you do nothing to kingsport. Guess you have your own agenda and it fits more closely with John Adams and kingsport!

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

oh ok sjt18 didn't know the history there so i can't speak on previous posts by nafslov so my bad on that if there is a history. Just speaking on what i saw today.

Posted by jdcdjc on July 20, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel better about the quaterback spot at UT than I have since T left.

Posted by invisiblekid on July 20, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Vols85 and sjt18, apparently you guys didn't get the memo that you're either a "Tee" man or a "Peyton" man.

Obviously, some can't grasp the fact that both guys hold their respective places in Vols history and did their parts for the program. Instead they have to tear down one of the legends to make their points, as off-target as they may be.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I been on this thread all day and have yet to see anyone call payton a wasted jersey that comment was never said in the same sentence as his name. I said he was a good qb. but that was it. notice how everything you just said was mainly in reference to his NFL career and what he has done after UT. We weren't talking about that, i don't care about the payton charity work or what he does with the colts i'm a vols fan this is a vols site. What championship ring did he bring home to knoxville was my whole basis of my arguement. Who cares what records he holds, that doesn't amount to a UT championship those are personal accomplishments that unless your name is Peyton Manning they don't mean D*CK. I will take a ring over a record any day. You need to go back and read my 3:54 post and my 4:19 post so we can actually be discussing the same thing.

Posted by williamshockley on July 20, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am excited to see a new offense and a new QB. There are a lot of folks bustin Ainge and Clausen's chops, but I think most opposing coaches figured out Tennessee's offense and play calling over the past years. Change is good.

Posted by Bass_Vol_1998 on July 20, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all Peyton was a great college QB. To those who said that he couldn't win the big game... don't forget that BAMA was the big game when he came to town. He got that streak turned around and it was a big deal. Then the flordia rivalry was sparked, I'm not sure he even started the UF game his freshman year either.

I personally like Tee better- he was more low profile and that 55 yard run against Syracuse to save the day won me over. Also he changed the play at the line for the Bryson run against FL in 98.

Posted by vol4gzus on July 20, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wereintrubble and other poster names are the 'apparent' creation of the magnificent see rvol and volseer. If not they are his cousins no doubt. Lets see article was about qb's right? Linem up and lets play futbol!

ps as another poster said recently ,when you see wereintrubble it has a past tense as better days are ahead. If it had been we'reintrubble ,then present day doom and gloom. So the intent got lost in the name ,but definitely not in the tsunami of drivel he posts.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 5:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To everyone from yesterday. Please i'm trying hard to leave the political discussions off this site but people keep trying to pull my back in. "Just When I Thought I Was Out They Pull Me Back In" now thats a classic line right there. But i'm actually gonna take the high ground and not even respond from here on out. Mikesean isn't responding to any more political comments. Strictly football by request of the numerous vol fans on here and since despite our differences and disagreements we are all VOL fans above it all and at the end of the day we all bleed orange so i'll leave it right there. Peace and love to anybody routing for the vols, black, white, christian, muslim, rich, poor. Together Vol Nation Stands Divided We Fall. I'm running for Pres. in 2012 send donations to mikesean4prez.com lol

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike,

so basically since Peyton didn't win a NC, then all of his stats and an SEC championship don't matter...just say it! All you care about is the NC, that's fine if that's what you want to use as a gauge, but then you'd be saying that every player that didn't win an NC didn't do anything positive for UT. However, I'm very curious as to why you have so much disdain for him...He's a great human being who accomplished a lot at UT (SEC championships are huge), something that you don't want to acknowledge. Also, the fact that you spell his name incorrectly incessantly is a knock...Do you not like seeing our players do well? You have a motive behind your dislike for Peyton...

You chose to turn this into a Tee vs. Peyton argument, and I won't go there. I will not disparage any player that has done excellent things for UT, and I think it is only fair that you hold yourself in the same regard!

Posted by longtimefan on July 20, 2008 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hopefully the changes you mean are ditching those outta bounds or in da stands pass patterns. also the we need 10 yrds get half and we'll punt routes.i hope to see better play calling this year!

Posted by dvols on July 20, 2008 at 6:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

football season can't come early enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me be your policy advisor Mikesean...

In all honesty, the old system worked when it was coached well. Sanders wasn't a good OC. Cut was. The difference was about a TD per game in scoring... maybe more if Cut had had the talent RS squandered with Stallworth, Kelly, Witten, etc.

The thing I am most hopeful about with Clawson isn't the scheme or those things. It looks like the differences will be fairly subtle to the avg fan. The thing I want to see is a master chess player at work. Supposedly Clawson is exceptionally intelligent along with being a very good tactician and stategician... and a stickler for detail and execution. Could be hype but that sounds like the best of all worlds.

Posted by douglasawilliams on July 20, 2008 at 6:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

VOLINDOGLAND,

I agree with some of your analysis of Cutcliffe's offense. The only thing that really matters is he increased points scored and made most of the games competitive excluding, CAL, FL, ALA. I was really upset how they came out in the second half against S. Carolina and almost lost a 21 point lead at half time. At times they were predictable and did not have consistent ability to run the ball. But I am excited about a new offense with Crompton at the helm. GOVOLS!!!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fact is crompton will bring a toughness to the field that we havent seen in a while, clausen, like him or not was tough ,but i mean a different kind of toughness like tucking it and running on 3rd and 3, lowering his head to try and get the first down . i am excited , i think this kind of attitude gets players at other positions fired up as well

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

douglasawilliams , i agree im excited to see a new offense , not one from the good ol boy network. turn em loose clawson and lets see what we got. GO VOLS !!!!!

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean865 - Manning threw for over 12,000 yards for his career. I agree with you that he is just average and that football is a one man team. He should have won it all and all by hinself. Marino was bad in the NFL too. He never won a ring.

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ditto General ditto !!!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean you my friend are an idiot, who says tee is a second rate qb? the man has a street and a statue at the neyland thompson complex in his honor . i dont ever remember anyone here bashing tee , just you bashing peyton . and by the way tee is a vol legend and so is peyton, but you know peyton shouldve won the heisman, and have you forgotten the 99 season

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 20, 2008 at 7:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean i would be saying the same thing if you were on here bashing tee martin and not peyton manning, besides 80% of the peeps on this site like both players anyway. youre the one that keeps bringing this stupid discussion up

Posted by pdhuff on July 20, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All I care about is CPF getting his eight wins.

You all need to start thinking 8 is enuf.

Forget the Grail or the rings. "Moses" Hamilton has brought our one commandment down. 8.

Period.

Posted by RichRollin on July 20, 2008 at 8:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PDHUFF, I'm looking forward to that 8th brewsky!! HoneyMoon Summer Ale, YUMMY. Can't figure out if it or Sam Adams Summer Ale is better.

Posted by givim6 on July 20, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anyone who bashes kids who gave their all for the Vols are Morons.

Anyone who pits the accomplishments of black against white Vols or vise versa are Idiots.

Anyone who takes nafslov seriously and tries to argue with his imbicilic statements are "spittin in the wind."

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DC,

I think people like Crompton because he has an extra dimension to his game. He came in very highly touted and has spent three years waiting. He has been a spoken leader on the field so far, and the O&W game was very impressive for him. I think the addition of a creative OC in Clawson adds to the excitement surrounding him. More important than anything is that he doesn't have to throw the ball away...he enjoys scrambling and doesn't mind giving/taking hits (a stark contrast to Ainge, who was terrified of running and taking hits). Don't know if that helps to explain why we're excited...

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Me to Mcbrim me too!! DC it worked for you didnt it,Im just saying !!!

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mc,

...we heard you the first time...

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Refer back to the LSU game when he laid the wood to a LSU saftey,and took three more to bring him down.I'm just saying ..........

Posted by Colliervol on July 20, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mikesean, with all due respect, the only thing nafslov ever "hit on the head" around here was himself with his own hammer. He is delusional and I see you joined his chorus. Sure, Tee was the QB when we won an NC. Good for him. As I recall, Tee didn't have to face Florida in Gainesville. That's enough to give his team the leg up right there. And Tee's team got several big "breaks" that Manning's never got. Need I point out the Arkansas game and the questionable pass interference penalty in the Syracuse game? Sometimes it just takes a good team and luck to get the elusive national championship. Tee was the beneficiary of that along with an outstanding defense.

To say Manning was simply a "good SEC QB" is ludicrous and doesn't even justify debate. He has more than proved himself and will be in the NFL Hall of Fame and has the ultimate gold---a Super Bowl ring. Before he is done, he will be included among the top 5 QB's in NFL history. Meanwhile, your buddy Tee (who I happen to think is a class act by the way) is doing CSS TV and conducting football camps. Who's had the best career? When you want to answer that honestly, we'll discuss it.

Posted by givim6 on July 20, 2008 at 8:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pd: Hamilton did set a standard of mediocrity that just frosts my arse. How can our great University ever proclaim greatness in the future when "8 is enough". How can our coaches have the motivation to do better when they know they will get their rewards for just being average.

It seems that Hamilton has set us up to be fodder for other schools recruiting against us.

Saban, Meyer, Richt, will say to recruits, "UT has set their goal for acceptable achievment to be just 8 wins a season. Son, we are going for national championships, which do you want to be part of?"

Hamilton skewered us!

Posted by 99gator on July 20, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the peyton manning/tee martin debate on this board is the absolute dumbest of all on this board.

peyton manning was a better qb than tee martin. period.

tee martin played on the team that won the national title. kudos to him.

it's like saying deshawn wynn was a better college running back than emmitt smith, because wynn started on the team that won a national title and emmitt smith did not even play for a florida team that won 8 games.

ridiculous.

Posted by RichRollin on July 20, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No we don't get hurricanes in Tenn, what are you thinking?? Oh, you are just being a smart a55 as you always are. I'm not totally against Florida. I was born in St. Pete, and my dad is Buried in Tampa. Got some really good friends down there, guys that have MUCH CLOUT!! Other than them dudes and my dad, can't stand the place!!

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nc DC spin it any way you want to.Cromp will be a better q.b. than even the gaytor nation will expect.besides once through he d-line you BOYS are hiddious,oh I feel sure that Crompton will not try to kiss his man-love friend on national t.v.As delusional as it may seem you are very,very suspect on defense.True you did lose 4 games or are you sniffing the past as well.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

99,

God bless you...volsfan and the guy with two first name's ignorance has given me a massive headache all day.

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey hero I'll take 6 points and you name your price.I'll put the mnoey in escroll and down on book.What say ye ????

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"money"

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That shows how much you know about football in general DC = twit

Posted by mikes70gto on July 20, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well idiot would you think it means "on hold"

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DC,

no offense, but you asked why we are optimistic about Crompton this year, and I gave you our reasons, but you decided to pander to the master of irrelevance on our site, Mc...tell us why we shouldn't be optimistic with a new QB when we return our O-line that allowed 4 sacks last year, 4 impressive running backs, all of our wide receivers, and a new offense?

Posted by VOLS85 on July 20, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

haha,

Got to admit that that was a little on the special ed side, but I don't think I'd get too high on that perch...you have your own fair share of jort wearing imbeciles, as all teams have plenty of "special" fans.

Posted by Jdavol on July 20, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

here is a link to see the Crompton hit on LSU DB, it's at the 1:10 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDmxpv...

Posted by Jdavol on July 20, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton plays with lots of passion, and is a hard-nosed guy, i look forward to seeing him lead us this coming year. expect great things from Mr. Crompton

GO VOLS!!!

Posted by Bass_Vol_1998 on July 20, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

colliervillevol- "the questionable pass interference call against syracuse", I re-watched that game about a week ago... and their db tackled our guy clearly before the ball arrived. That is not questionable in my book.

Now that phantom td that florida got in the endzone... that is questionable.

Peyton may be the best qb of all time, but my favorite UT QBs are
1. Tee
2. Heath
3. Peyton
4. Andy Kelly

Posted by Colliervol on July 20, 2008 at 9:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought escroll was some sort of lettuce. Or is that escarole? I'm really confused now.

Seriously, 99gator @ 8:43, as usual you bring some sanity to the board. The Deshawn Wynn/Emmitt Smith comment is dead on. I just wish some of our own fans could be as reasonable. Of course, if I ever checked a Gator board, I figure you've got a few dimwits over there too. Am I right?

Posted by TommyJack on July 20, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DaddyVol: I tried both brews recently and I give a very slight edge to the Honey Moon. Both are excellent, tho.

Posted by 55Vol on July 20, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim... Fla fans also have their heads up Urban's fanny. And you guys can't smell very well. He will not win another NC while at Florida. In 3-5 years he will be gone to ND. Get all you can while you can.

Kindest regards to you also.

Posted by 55Vol on July 20, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Because ND is that stupid. They hired the super offensive guru Charlie Weis... why wouldn't they go after a coach from a high profile school who has won a NC and has ties to ND? Maybe you should try thinking yourself. I see gator piss works like orange koolaid.

Kindest regards

Posted by invisiblekid on July 20, 2008 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Seriously, from an outsider looking in, I'm a little surprised so many seem to think the qb position will be upgraded this year."

DCFL, Ainge had one of the more tumultuous careers of a UT qb in memory. His freshman year, he split time with Brent Schaeffer. Injured late in his freshman year on a senseless play against ND which opened the door for Rick Clausen. The same Rick Clausen who Saban let walk out the door from LSU no questions asked. The following year, we saw the QB controversy which Sanders and Fulmer handled so gracefully to the tune of a 5-6 record thus opening the door for the return of the Guru. Cutcliffe gets Ainge's head straightened out and he has a fine junior season IMO. He follows that up with a senior season that was hampered by more injuries, injuries which weren't brought up by Cutcliffe until the bowl game. Cutcliffe admitted in an interview t