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Tennessee football 2008: Linebackers

UT thin on starting experience

Inside the Linebackers

Position coach

  • John Chavis

Projected depth chart

  • WLB: Rico McCoy (Savion Frazier)
  • MLB: Ellix Wilson (Nick Reveiz, Chris Donald)
  • SLB: Nevin McKenzie or Adam Myers-White

Watch out for

  • McKenzie, a converted safety who is likely to win the starting strongside job with his athleticism.

Key stat

  • The Vols must find a way to replace the versatile Mayo, who led the SEC with 140 tackles and was second on the team with 8.5 tackles for loss.

Series

In terms of starting experience, Tennessee's linebackers are the least seasoned on defense heading into fall camp.

Only junior weakside linebacker Rico McCoy returns with more than one career start, leaving the Vols to replace two-year starter Ryan Karl and All-SEC middle linebacker Jerod Mayo, another two-year starter and first-round draft pick of the New England Patriots.

Despite the losses, though, Tennessee has a solid group in place. And it all starts with McCoy.

"Second-team All-SEC last year, and you wonder where he could get better," said defensive coordinator and linebackers coach John Chavis. "He got better (in spring practice) from a pass-coverage standpoint and the disciplines and techniques."

That's a scary proposition considering McCoy, who finished second on the team with 106 tackles last season.

While McCoy is unquestionably the star, senior Ellix Wilson figures to make the transition into the starting lineup with ease. Making his first career start in the Outback Bowl, Wilson recorded six tackles, third-best behind Mayo and safety Jonathan Hefney.

As a fifth-year senior and frequent substitute player, Wilson knows Tennessee's system. Behind Wilson is former Farragut High School standout Nick Reveiz, a special teams ace who has impressed coaches with his work ethic.

At strongside linebacker, typically a position responsible for making play calls and adjustments, Adam Myers-White and Nevin McKenzie will battle for the starting position.

McKenzie, a converted safety in his second season with the Vols after transferring from junior college, has the edge because of his athletic ability. But a minor knee injury early in spring practice effectively ended his on-field time with the Vols until fall camp.

Myers-White, another senior, has seen limited playing time during his career.

"I think we've got some good competition at the (strongside) linebacker position," Chavis said following spring practice. "Right now, the four I would mention would be Rico, Adam Myers-White, Nevin McKenzie and Ellix Wilson."

Those aren't the only players who could contribute at linebacker, though.

Sophomores LaMarcus Thompson and Savion Frazier have earned praise from Chavis and both should see action this fall aside from special teams.

Thompson could move to middle linebacker after spending spring working outside, while Frazier appears to be a playmaker in waiting.

And despite the lack of proven players, McCoy is confident in his teammates' ability to be productive this fall.

"I have no doubts in my mind about the linebacker spot," McCoy said. "Ellix Wilson has been here (five) years now. I've seen him play in practice, and when he got in games he made plays. Nevin McKenzie, Adam Myers-White, come on. We've got guys that can play. I'm not worried about it all."

Drew Edwards covers University of Tennessee football. He may be reached at 865-342-6274.

       180 Comments

Posted by bobbarbilly on July 18, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It ain't bragging if you can do it guys.

Posted by RichRollin on July 18, 2008 at 10:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Myers-white and McKenzie should shine if healthy. I'm expecting Savion Frazier to step it up.

Posted by mikes70gto on July 18, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dont forget about Gerald Williams and Chris Donald.I still have a gut feeling that these two will eventually be in the starting rotation.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gerald WIlliams maybe. Chris Donald hasn't shown much to date. The 4 listed are rock solid. We should be fine at this position.

Posted by newtonrail on July 18, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Assuming Gerald Williams really gets there, he will be a DE, and Donald may end up there.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 18, 2008 at 11:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail - I think you are right on both counts.

Posted by Volomatic on July 19, 2008 at 12:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

With what we have in place on defense I don't expect to see the score that high for the oppenents this year like last. They may be holding back how they truely feel about the players. They could be better or they could be worse. But to here hear McCoy talk like that gives me more assurance about what we have.

Posted by shane6 on July 19, 2008 at 12:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's up General?

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 12:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Newtonrail: What other nuggets of wisdom you got for us? Good insights tonight!

Posted by mparker on July 19, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

rico is another hitter.

in Chavis' scheme, depth is a huge thing. I think it helps the team, as kids knwo they'll play if they produce.

Posted by bluetickhound on July 19, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I couldn't agree more. We will be fine at LB, we always have been. McCoy will be the next great one, and the other guys will capitalize off of the focus placed on blocking him. Now... about that DL...

Posted by dfreeman on July 19, 2008 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

linebacker hasn't been a question for us in a LONG LONG LONG time!! I like the updates by position, this is good!!

Posted by UTfan4life on July 19, 2008 at 1:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

our linebackers, have never been a weak spot for us. Every year we have good LB's after LB's.. Im lookin forward to seeing Abrams-Ward and Chris Donald to hit the field together, talk about a speed/power duo in the LB core

Posted by bcbobcat82 on July 19, 2008 at 2:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am still waiting on another #27 AL WILSON!!! He was and is a BEAST!! What an intimidating dude!

Posted by BSweet on July 19, 2008 at 2:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Love him or hate him as a DC, Chief has always coached the LBs up. That said, he has a tough job ahead of him this year. The only proven is Rico. I hope the other guys step up and get hungry. Our perceived lack of depth up front means this unit may see loads of extra action. I hope some of the younger guys on the D-line step up and surprise us too.

Posted by txsvol on July 19, 2008 at 6:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bcbobcat82: #27 was a one in a lifetime player for us. The closest you'll see was #7 last year. But we'll be very strong @ LB in 2008, and with Rico playing well, and anchoring our defense, he should make some All-America teams for LINEBACKER UNIVERSITY. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 19, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wait, wasn't Karl White nafslov. Funny how all the wasted jersey's were White. Hm. I'm sure it just worked out that way.

Posted by vol98champ on July 19, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail, finally someone who seems to know something. I agree on Williams. Little couldn't play linebacker, but he sure could play DE. Maybe Donald is the same.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 19, 2008 at 7:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Eduardo is a freak. I fired that worthless Mexican. My yard got so high that Dupree was playing in it and hasn't been seen since. You could hide LargeO in my grass.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 19, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with Mikestogo, looking forward to seeing Donald and G.Williams in the mix.

Posted by RichRollin on July 19, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bobcat, its been over 100 years of U.T. football and only 1 #27 so don't hold your breath. There may never be a #27 again but good thing is that in a few years, we will be saying the same about McCoy. Not that he is Al Wilson, but he is Rico McCoy!! I don't care about size, this may be the one that you Fla. loverz wanna' keep away from Tebow or it maybe LIGHTS OUT for TIMMY!!!!

Posted by gatorinknox on July 19, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, DaddyVol we have a run game this year so he15man will not have to run so much. With out Mayo and no DL it could ugly for you guys in the SEC this year. After what the vols did to UG there gonna be looking for some payback.

Posted by Ironcity on July 19, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People seem to be selling Wilson short. Every time he blitzed last year he got right in. I thought he had impeccable timing and great instincts on the blitz. reminded me of a MLB from our championship team also named Wilson. I have to agree with nafslov, If we can't replace Karl with someone better, then were in trouble

Posted by beachvol1 on July 19, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Apprears that this is probably one of the thinner linebacking group that we hae had in some time on experience, and to this date, I don't undertand Chris Donald..fantastic coming out of Huntingdon High School, but has completely been a bust...I mean a guy with size and speed..never was in any trouble in High School and well respected by his peers..I hope he changes his attitude before it is too late, as he can help this team at LB...I can see the need for the Vols to go after more LB's...how about that kid at Hawaii??? Looks pretty solid on flm...follow Uncle Mapu and make the flight....

Posted by RichRollin on July 19, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gatorinknox, I hope Emanuel Moody is not your answer to running game. If so, tell him to carry the ball in the correct hand. He may get by with that in the Pac-10 but not down here. I guess he foundout when that 2nd stringer made him cough it up in orange and blue game. Chris Rainey looked real good but 180 pound guys usually end up hurt in SEC if they get to many carries!

Posted by Richmondvol on July 19, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys should take it easy on Donald. He red shirted last year so this will technically be his Freshman year. It takes some kids longer to adjust to everything that comes with College, and not just on the football field. I am confident we will see great things fomr him but it will probably be next year or even the year after when he is a Junior and Senior.

Posted by RichRollin on July 19, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Richmond, I agree. I think Donald came from a 1-A high school. 6'3" 220 4.5/40 dominates in 1-A Tennessee high school football. Get in 5-A Tennessee ball, them guys everyywhere. Once his mind catches up to speed of SEC he will slaughter, question is when?

Posted by Need_2_Know on July 19, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nafslov, I have to take issue with your assertion that Karl was a wasted jersey. He was admittedly not the most athletic LB we've had, but he gave his all and made a lot of big hits. And, in the spirit of a true Vol, he played hurt several times and didn't have much drop off. I'd have him back for this year in a heartbeat if he had any eligibility remaining.

Posted by Kosmo on July 19, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Karl was a wasted jersey. I bet you whoever replaces him shows good ability and speed, something Karl never had. Omar Gather was one of those special teams guys for a while because Fat Phil plays favorites, but when he got his chance Gather shined. And now is the starting MLB for the Eagles. STOP PLAYING FAVORITES FAT PHIL. P.S. Ayers was way more productive than Antonio Reynolds or Xavier Mitchell but they both played more than he did, and he ended up with more sacks. Now Fat Phil go down to Krystal and you get some sacks. Sack full of Krystal's YUMMY.

Posted by RichRollin on July 19, 2008 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Kosmo, thank you dude, cause I got slammed by half the board the other day for saying that Phil plays favorites. Ayers was better than Reynolds, 2 years ago So.Demonte' Bolden was better than senior McGlothlin, and last year Ellix Wilson was better than Ryan Carl was!!! Need_2_know Karl played hurt and didn't drop off as you said at 9:34, but he got hurt for SEC champ. and when Ellix Wilson/Nevin McKenzie came in for him our D obviously got better. Added deminsion called speed/passrush!! I'll not say that Carl or any of these players are wasted jerseys though. They gave their ALL for Tennessee, so I got love for ALL of them.

Posted by TommyJack on July 19, 2008 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

nafslov is wasted bandwidth.

Posted by workinlikehek on July 19, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Chief will have stud linebackers teed up, as always.

Go big orange.

Posted by tngeoff on July 19, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Need_2_Know.

Exactly right. He exemplified a "winning" attitude and played every down for keeps. Not a lick of quit in him. Now...let's return to the days of "linebacker U!"

Posted by volfan5521 on July 19, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

a nonvenomous statement from workin,now if we could just get Louis "nafslov" Farrakahn to either quit using his tired "wasted jer..blah blah" comment or apply it to some non-white players and I can stop policing this site! And move on to the Bammer and Gaytor sites!! GO VOLS

Posted by RichRollin on July 19, 2008 at 11:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We all know our D-line should be quicker off the edge, but this should be a great blitzing LB core as well!! Myers-White and McKenzie both bring saftey speed off the edge, I can't wait!

Posted by budd on July 19, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tommy Jack, truer words never spoken. Ryan played with heart and worked to get where he was.ANYONE who calls a VOL player a wasted jersey is a wasted a**hole

Posted by TurboFan on July 19, 2008 at 11:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Have any of you ever given any thought as to why Fulmer would have and play "favorites"? Maybe because they listen and follow directions. Maybe they work harder on the practice field and weight room. Maybe they don't act like they know everything. Many kids were superstars on their HS teams and need their heads adjusted when getting to college. Ryan Karl may have had many shortcomings athletically but he excelled in heart, effort and game study. That is what any good coach wants out of all his players. Not a chocolate eclair on his desk every morning.

Posted by grvol on July 19, 2008 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The talent is there. The only question is will they be coached especially early. Through the early Cal, FL and AL debacle/embarrassments last year, we witnessed some of the worst middle linebacker play at TN since probably the early sixties. Amazing that Mayo was able to turn it around in the second half of the season last year.

Posted by budd on July 19, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why TurboFan! Play players who work hard, learn their assignments and play as team players as opposed to reading their high school sports transcripts. What a novel idea!!

Posted by grvol on July 19, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard Fulmer is holding out on Gerald Williams so he can count his 4 stars in next year's recruiting class.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Have to agree with nafslov. Ryan Karl was and always will be a wasted jersey. But phil had to give the rednecks at least one white boy to cheer for on defense. That was all politics, everybody knew Karl shouldn't have been starting. He was nowhere near UT starting linebacker potential. Just Phil playing favorites again thats all that was. Had to give the good ole boys a good ole boy to cheer for nothing more nothing less. He was the dane bradshaw of the team. Who cares if you have heart give me atheleticism and speed anyday over a no talent white boy with heart. Get real out there in Vol land and if i hear one more Tee Martin hater on here when Payton went 0-4 against florida and didn't bring any championships to Knoxville the Quarterblack did that so please get off payton's sack and give tee martin his due. Never would have had a championship without him Payton couldn't do it, he couldn't even beat memphis lol. Bow down the superior black athelete. Oh yeah almost forgot don't forget to vote people OBAMA 08. Cant wait to go to D.C for the inauguration time to make history baby. And don't worry i know some of you are so ignorant your going to vote for George Bush Jr. aka John Mccain and continue the war that has you all whining at the pump due to the pointless war in Irag that your votes for George Bush allowed to happen so don't look so surprised as to why gas is $4 and why there are no jobs and the economy is messed up when you are to blame and your about to do it again if you vote for Mccain dummies wake up out there people. Please if you didn't graduate from college at least do not respond to my comment i do not talk with uneducated Bush voters that think Ryan Karl is going pro. lol

Posted by budd on July 19, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey mikesean865, why don't you learn to make it rhyme like Jessie does so at least the crap you write is interesting. Your point about Tee is exactly what I was talking about. A player who works hard and learns his assignments and plays with the team.

Posted by volfan5521 on July 19, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean666> your a dumba$%

Posted by volfan5521 on July 19, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean777> suggestion!!!!! Use your spellcheck when your calling someone ignorant, it may help you more affectivly relay your message!!

Posted by TommyJack on July 19, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean sounds like a mouth breather.

Posted by middleTNvol on July 19, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mikesean why don't u save ur politics for the political boards... As I remember Tee had some help in 98.there were a few other players on the field and lay off PEYTON. 1 more thing. Where is Tee today?

Posted by longtimefan on July 19, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NEWS FLASH! George Bush to replace Phillip Fulmer in 2009! what more could you ask for?

Posted by stlvol on July 19, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey mikeinsane: Get your mouth off the crackpipe!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

before the season is over reveiz will be a big time contributor, maybe not starting but playing key minutes. this kid is a beast in the weightroom and has football in his blood.donald i think could play both positions , i like him better at lb.ryan karl played hard and showed a lot of toughness but i think wilson brings more speed and athleticsm.im a little concerned with our size at lb. i dont like 210-215 lb linebackers.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 19, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BLACK POWER!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

get over it the tee vs. peyton thing is getting very old. who cares they are both tenn legends and contributed a lot to this program. by the way mikesean you are an idiot rascist, people like you are what is wrong with this great country of ours here we are talking football and your dumb@ss turns it into a race issue you wouldnt know racism if it walked up and kicked you in your dumb@ss . im assuming your black , if im right ask your grandfather about racism he is the one who really suffered. i hate racism and anyone who spews its nonsense.

Posted by invisiblekid on July 19, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean865,

First, nobody gives a d*mn who you are voting for, take the political commentary somewhere else. It's GoVOLS not GoObama, GoMcCain, or GoRonPaul.com

Second, I don't disagree with the issue that there were probably better athletes that could have been playing LB than Karl. However, it was likely Chavis' choice as LB coach, not Fulmer's. Go back to Turbofan's post at 11:40 and gain some insight on the issue of there being more to football than running fast.

Third, show me where there are any Tee Martin haters anywhere on this site.

Posted by ssukonic on July 19, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Turbo fan: you sound like a former coach. Sometimes you gotta go with the heart and desire guy. And you guys that think color plays into it are out to lunch. You gotta go with your best athlete and the guy who gives you the best chance to win. A Ryan Karl makes good decisions and plays his butt off and sometimes you just gotta reward that. That's a coaches decision and that's what they get paid the big bucks for. BTW--anyone know when the date is for the first practice? Man, it's time for some football!!!

Posted by pdhuff on July 19, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LB should be a very busy position in a few days. Overall from side to side they should be better but we will miss the stud Mayo.

We should do fine at LB if they don't get injured by d-linemen being driven back into them.

We need the Butkus-Reynolds-Walker-Wilson-Kiner ATTITUDE at LB.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know the Payton reality check may have hurt some of your feelings but its the truth he brought no trophies to knoxville. I'm not a colts fan i'm a vol fan so who cares what payton is doing now and what tee martin is doing now. In college Tee Martin got it done and brought the trophy home Payton in all his greatness couldn't do that sorry guys. And i didn't mention NFL careers because UT is a college team last i checked and this is a UT page not a Colts page so please realize what the discussion is concerning before you make yourself sound dumb as hell like middleTNvol. And to a Vol fan please tell me how a colts championship equates to a UT championship? Please explain that to me middleTNvol since you said where is tee today. And thank you uninformed political minds for not touching that subject, must be some be some bush voters on here cause yall got really quite on that tip. GO OBAMA!!!! GO VOLS!!!!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

backward volfan, i love tee martin, hell al wilson and big john henderson are my favorite players. tee was the man i will never forget tee martin and 1998 season as long as i live. but why cant we like tee and peyton both i dont have to choose one over the other. GO VOLS !!!!!

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean: Your socialist diatribe is sad and demented. Typical of folks like you, you blame all of your problems on racism and society rather than take responibility for your own shortcomings.

People such as yourself think that some politician or the government is going make some drastic improvement in your life. Obama, McCain or any other politician is not going to make any meaninful difference in your life or mine, It's good old American free enterprise and work ethic that provides us with the OPPORTINITY to make something of ourselves. Here's a revelation bud, If you don't or won't do for yourself, You aren't going to amount to much. There are huge numbers of americans of all colors, creeds and backgrounds who are successful in life due to their own efforts.

EXCEPT FOR SLEAZY POLITICIANS AND ACTIVISTS WHO FEED OFF THEIR FOLLOWERS, MOST FOLKS DO WELL BY DOING FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT GOVERNMENT SUPPORT.

You and nafslov must be twins separated due to one of your eggs rolling out of the nest down there in the swamp.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i hate to hurt your feelings mikesean , but mccain and obama both are knuckleheads. now with that said go spew your political nonsense on csnbc.com not on here. peace out brotha!

Posted by IPOrange on July 19, 2008 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm gonna vote for givim6 for president - he talks good sense.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 19, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mike,

That is the problem that you have, you want people to do things for you instead of doing things for yourself, hence your political diatribe. Don't come onto this site and spew your hate about race and your political views. If you want to talk about education, it seems as if you were shorted growing up. You cannot put a coherent sentence together. It almost seems ironic that you bash Bush supporters when your ignorance is glaring. You're an obvious racist, and you continue to set the rest of your race back when it seems as if everyone else wants to move forward.

On another note, I think our Linebackers are in great shape for this season...hopefully we can put together another 2005 type defense!

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 1:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean, last tme I checked football was a team sport. The other 10 guys on offense and 11 on defence (and everyone else involved) might also have something to do with the outcome of a game/season. No question QB is probably the most important position, but it ALL has to work, with a little luck thrown in, to go undefeated.

Posted by TurboFan on July 19, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ikid, I think you may have meant GoBobBarr.com, Ron Paul didn't make the finals. Not that that matters here.

I think I'll go mow my yard even if it is 90 degrees outside. Wait for this nasty board rash to clear up.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if you vote for mccain cause your white , or obama cause yore black, or even hillary cause your a woman then your a fool !

Posted by invisiblekid on July 19, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"LB should be a very busy position in a few days. Overall from side to side they should be better but we will miss the stud Mayo."

Agreed pdhuff, Mayo was a big loss and I don't think anyone we have can fully replace him. McCoy could come close but overall, the LB unit should get better with some addition by subtraction. I appreciate Karl and his efforts, but there were times that he just looked overmatched last year, especially from a speed standpoint. No secret that Fulmer and company gets wrapped up in the senior leadership angle at times though. The LB's aren't getting anywhere near the ink of the DL but the questions that need to be answered there are almost as important.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

aaaaagggggghhhhhh ! i cant believe this knucklehead pulled me in , im actually talkin politics. go away mikesean we wanna talk sec and football here not racism and politics

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 1:47 p.m.

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Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i think we will have a lot of speed at the lb unit this year, and watch out for reveiz kid could be a sleeper. started out as special teams standout, does that remind any of a certain # 27 that used to play for the vols

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 1:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i kid i agree mayo will be tough to replace

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe our LB corps is solid, probably improved due to overall athleticism. But their performance will, as always, be determined by the Dline. If we can get a better push this season and plug some holes, the LB's can concentrate on their assignments instead of having to keep an eye and a half on run support. If we can do that up front, the LB's should have a very good year.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And no i'm not a racist just a realist. How can i be racist if i'm half white. just calling a spade a spade. But since your all convinced that i am thats fine call me mikesean X. LOL Yes you are a fool if you vote for MCcain just because your white or Obama because your black. I'm voting for OBAMA because i'm into politics and know he is the candidate that will pull us out of a war that is killing our great nation not to mention thousands of honarable men and women in our military. You can't label me sorry i know you would like to but i'm nothing you have said i'm not whining about the economy i'm telling you not to because your vote for Bush created this mess in the first place and a vote for Mccain is just a continuance of Bush and the War in iraq that Mccain said he would keep us in for 100 more years. Get informed out here. Thats my intention, just to motivate people to really know what they are voting for before they ruin our country for another 4 years.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

any way, naval i think our d line will surprise and give our lbs a chance to make plays and use their speed to blow plays up. i just hope we dont have any major injuries along def front

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok now that i feel i have done my duty as a patriotic american and have sparked your interest in the election and the issues hopefully you will do some research on your own to know who and what you are voting for this election. Please don't mess up the nation any further GO OBAMA END THE WAR IN IRAQ BRING THOSE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS HOME AND OUT OF THE POCKETS OF BUSH AND HIS FRIENDS WITH THEIR NO CONTEST BIDS THEIR COMPANIES ARE GETTING MILLIONS FROM IN IRAQ. CLASS IS OFFICIALLY ENDED BACK TO FOOTBALL.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thanks mcbrim ,but i still take my chances with tebow under center with game on the line

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean: Recession? recession is defined as two quarters of negative or no growth in the economy. That hasn't happened yet. A slower economy, yes, but no recession.

Althought I don't subscribe to equating a college degree to intelligence (you as an example) I do have 3 accredited degrees, one from UT.

You sir are one of those negative haters who are looking for excuses rather than solutions.

An ignorant person doesn't know their ignorant until someone enlightens them.

Consider yourself enlightened.

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yaeh blutick thats the way its supposed to work. I cant count the times last year our LB's were out of position after having to run down a back who cruised through the line (especially in the first half of the year). Maybe this year they can count on the front 4 to clog the middle and make the stop or push it to the outside where they would have the angle.

Posted by cjraney on July 19, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean-
This is a no-politics zone so please shut your mouth. You're only making yourself and your chosen candidate look foolish.

On a football note, who's gonna be the "designated white boy for the rednecks to cheer for this year?"

Posted by longtimefan on July 19, 2008 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

PROBLEMS? WE HAVE PROBLEMS? where have i been? i actually agree with you mikesean. this country is in terrible shape! i too would like all that money spent here. but it might be harder to steal if its here. anyway, ITS ALMOST FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSE!

Posted by cjraney on July 19, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

givim6-
Nafslov seems to be having a little fun with his angle, that's just my impression. Does get annoying but at least its about football.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

makes you appreciate the hendersons and haynesworths a lil more huh

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bolden needs to step up and play consistent, and i thought big dan williams grew up a lot last year.i would like to see these guys get a nasty streak in them.but we need to get pressure off the edge also , something we lacked last year

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yes it does, but I have this sneaky feeling that we are gonna get some of that back out of these guys. We can hope. Our front 4 could surprise us if they stay healthy.

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think you're right about Dan Williams. I did see speed on the outside in the O&W game, hope it transfers to real field of play.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT OF THE DAY. POSTED BY VOLFAN5521 Read it carefully.

mikesean777> suggestion!!!!! Use your spellcheck when your calling someone ignorant, it may help you more affectivly relay your message!!

Last time i checked VOLFAN5521 affectively had an e between the v and the l. Next time you think your gonna sound intelligent you may want to run your spell check first especially when your telling somebody else to run a spell check you trailer park retard. FYI: a G.E.D will only get you so far in life VOLFAN5521. you may be the maintenance man at your trailer park one day if your lucky.

Posted by BigOrangeHustler on July 19, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow mike you are one left wing-liberal sonofabitc.h

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean why don't you jump back to your far left sites and leave this board out of your bullshi_. Otherwise tell us what you think about my 1:38 post. I'd like to hear your take on that. You know, a football comment.

Posted by grvol on July 19, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is a sports site. Mikeassen should take his socialist, "I'm a loser, give me a handout" views to the MSNBC plogs. JUST GO AWAY.

Posted by VOLS85 on July 19, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Next time you think your gonna sound intelligent"

the "your" you speak of is a contraction..."you're" as in "the next time you are". Also, "gonna" is a bad slang word that should not be used to support your intelligence rant.

Splendid job calling out someone on their intelligence, though...

Our D-line should not be in terrible shape this year if they show up for every game. The talent is there, it is just a matter of whether or not their head is in it. They're our biggest question mark, even more so than the LB's.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i agree with givem6 on his post on slade story , if we line our corners up 7 - 9 yrds off line of scrimmage our d line will not be effective anyway. opposing ocs will just quickly dump ball off to playmakers in space like harvin. good point givem6, lose the cushion, heck there were times id swear guys may have been 10 - 12 yrds off line

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim its a case of pick your poison with a guy like harvin ,but giving a vandy 3rd team receiver an 8 yrd cushion is ridiculous

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

unless of course its Morley or Berry behind them, then Harvin should probably keep his head on a swivel.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

maybe our coaches should work on our dbs getting a lil mor physical ,knock wrs off los

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim harvin is listed at 5'11 178 lbs which means hes probably really 5'9 165, so yeah while his speed will kill you i dont think hes very physical, so bumping him at the line is a risk i would like to see us take

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim other than the usual suspect tebow and harvin etc.. who are some unknowns for the gators you think will make an impact this year, just curious cause not only am i a tenn fan but also an sec fan

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 3:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

2 comments ashley , the old lady giving the gaytors the finger is friggin hilarious , the chick in the pic with tebow is friggin hot

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cj: You're right, back to pigskin postulating.

Bluetick: I agree! Knock Harvin and others on their butts, it disrupts timing, gives the D line time to rush, and allows the LBs to cause mayhem.

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do TN coaches always sit back and let one guy eat their lunch the whole game by backing off of him 10-15 yds. every game? Line your best hitter (probably a walk-on) up on him and put him on his rear each play....pop warner 101. Why do our coaches always seem to "outsmart" themselves? It's just a football game.

Posted by invisiblekid on July 19, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My mistake Turbofan. Was taking a break from building a 10'x15' patio but thinking I may have been better off sweating it out.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 3:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vols85 get a life. I'm not on here writing a term paper or i would actually check my grammer, but not for you hillbillies. i'd rather drive you crazy with a misspelled word to give you what you really believe is ammo to use against me. otherwise you would have nothing loser. Just showing you a glimpse of reality as you bask in denial about BUSH and the economic status of our country. but as i smell my maseradi leather and ride down peachtree on the way to the studio to wrap up the song the producer i manage just did for Ludacris i pity you peasants.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your political ignorance and lack of education in general is the reason i moved from tennesse to ATLANTA where people actually have teeth and a clue about what is really going on in the world we live in. I am the biggest Vols fan in the world just don't care for the people in knoxville and i was raised there so i can make that comment. Now i am done addressing any personal attacks on myself for now back to football.

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thats Maserati with a t by the way

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you should be able to read it on your car

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So what position is EJ Abrams Ward really gonna play and does anybody know what the kids 40 time is. If he is anywhere near a 4.4 he would absolutely dominate at receiver. Talk about a prototype i just wanna see this guy on the field doesn't matter what position he plays. That is the most intriguing recruit of our 07-08 class.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i see you didn't read my mispelled word message. lol. i love it you guys really are as dumb as you seem.

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes i'm just a big dumby, but I'll bet my real tahoe can smoke your fake maseradi with a d.

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

so Mr. Tolbert what is your degree in @ss hole and if you're half white does that mean you're half redneck since you've been putting down white people this whole time... i mean I'm sorry your lifes been so hard cause neither race would accept you .. but it's gonna be ok sweety this is America .. one big melting pot.

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and if you are so close to your "brethren" then come down to Chattanooga and leave your maseraDi overnight on 4th avenue.... I'm sure it will be safe...

Posted by VOLS85 on July 19, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

grammer hahahahaha. You cannot even spell the word! Try grammar buddy! Cannot spell Tennessee, but you wanted to get out due to the fact that we don't have a clue...self-realization is really hard, and especially for someone who carries a holier than thou approach such as yourself. Get off your political pedestal buddy and realize that this is a sports site. My suggestion to you is to get a life and go to a political site to spew your political trash.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

since navalorange is just retarded let me paste my previous message so you can see what you just fell for you dumb a**.

posted previously-
I'm not on here writing a term paper or i would actually check my grammer, but not for you hillbillies. i'd rather drive you crazy with a misspelled word to give you what you really believe is ammo to use against me. otherwise you would have nothing loser.

Or if that is too much for you too comprehend. Let me break it down for all my trailer park residents out there. i am misspelling words on purpose so you have something to comment about you loser get a life. How fu*kin old are you?

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"how can i be racist i'm half and half... that is the most ignorant comment i have ever heard in my life..... I don't know ask Mr. Obama how being half and half ... he can listen to his "Reverend" make hateful and derogatory comments towards whites in the pulpit of a Church. Back to football .... ignore this idiot (mikesean865)

Posted by VOLS85 on July 19, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Little old ignorant me, a UT grad, lived in Worcester, England, traveled to multiple European countries and saw poverty in the third world. Please speak down to us as if you have some perspective that we don't...but what do I know, I'm just a graduate from UT who decided that I didn't need to live in Atlanta to get perspective. At least we all know you're completely full of crap...

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Come on gator hater how you even gonna throw chat out there like its hardcore. Been there a few times. This guy i went to school with was from chat and used to brag about chat being so hard so i went home with him. Not exactly. I been there. A.P. all of that homie so please don't act when we both know the real.

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ... he's trying to be hood now... bwah ha ha ha ha... I'm so intelligent ...... straight up DOG
Bwah ha ha ha ha

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, so you really do own a maserati, you just misspelled the word for us dumb rednecks. Now I comprehend. You're a political expert, record producing, maserati driving, non-hillbilly cerebral superior.

I'm old enough and have been around long enough to know that you are full of shi_ period.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

gator hater you are really a fool if you think me or Obama are racist. there is a difference between being sick of ignorance of the masses and being racist. And if you voted Bush you can include yourself in that. Sorry people don't like hearing the truth but that doesn't qualify you as a racist. Hitler was a racist. I just tell it like it is and you can't digest that. Thats america for you. You can't handle the truth. Thats why Bush never tells it to you. LOL But hey if the media has you brainwashed like the rest of em then so be it.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah called him and his city out and its funny. where did your hardcore persona just disappear too?
you probably never even stepped foot in A.P. and you from chat. quit posin for the bloggers. If you even know what A.P. is LOL. Don't be mad i got more shooters in your hood than you(Jay-Z)

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

you can't handle the truth ... you quoted that from a movie didn't you... you better put that in quotes or cite that.... enough with your ignorance.... this board contains Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers, Black, White, Hispanic, and Asian all of whom more than likely have more money than you, are more intelligent than you, and could probably own you if need be ... the only difference is they won't lower themselves to your ignorant standards so I think I'll join them... good day madam.

Kindest Regards

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 4:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alton Park ... so your an intelligent gangster... lol... back to the top... had to bend over to talk to you again.... but you're used to that... bending over

Posted by GatorHater326 on July 19, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and thank God for that

Posted by mikesean865 on July 19, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i like how you said there are doctors and lawyers on here but you are neither so why didn't you include your occupation. Oh i know you didn't want to say janitor.

Posted by pearlific on July 19, 2008 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

how can any American vote for Obama? Our nation needs to wake up!

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 4:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You're right Gatorahater, most should ignore mikesean and normally I would. I've been to twenty-six countries mostly to defend the American way of life and Americans. Alton Park was a joke compared to the danger in some of those places. Thats why this a__hole has the right to get on any site he wants to and preach about why some uninformed all talk no action socialist should be voted for. Sorry, I'd rather talk sports, thats why I come here and I wish everyone else would have the decency to do the same.

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 4:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To all Vol posters dedicated to fun, lively, entertaining exchanges on this forum:

IF WE DON'T FEED STRAY DOGS, THEY EVENTUALLY GO AWAY.

Go Vols!!!

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrimm, I know UF's schedule is a little weeker than usual, but, at LEAST 5 returns to the house for James. I guess you could count at LEAST 2 against the Citadel. Just messing , is he UF's fastest, cant remember.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim , rainey is kinda small can he handle an sec pounding for the entire year, also how fast is he

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ive heard he ran a 4.24 40 in the spring

Posted by pdhuff on July 19, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What happened to UCLA and these "ok" LBs displaying their talents?

I didn't know the election was afore the Bruin tilt.

Dang.

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

hay yall does youns know at there mikesean feller (bluetick spits baccer juice) he shur is a smart feller he learned me bout tha uhconomee, and fancee sports cars(bluetick pets his pet pig golmer) youns shuwd lissin to at there feller, he towed me to vowt fer ol buhrock obammy fer prezuhdent

Posted by longtimefan on July 19, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

classic! bluetick, i love it!

Posted by longtimefan on July 19, 2008 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

m r ducks m r not s m r c m r wangs! l i b m r ducks!

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

do you really think he will beat out moore

Posted by KAvolsfan on July 19, 2008 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know this was half way up the page but Huntingdon HS is a 2AA school. Chris Donald played AA ball. I am from the area and am not surprised that he is not mentioned for possible playing time this year. I guess Rivals and Scout only saw his highlights. He is not that good and very soft. instead of a 5* guy he should have been a 3*. He will never play unless we play UT-Martin so forget he is on the roster.

Posted by givim6 on July 19, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KA: That's really a bummer about Donald. When we signed him, I really thought we had something.

I still think we have LBs that will make us proud. We may not have the superstar, AKA Big Al or Mayo, but our overall balance of speed, experience,and toughness will make this group very good.

I look forward to some McCoy smackdowns.

Posted by Navalorange on July 19, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DC, mcbrim; I know you guys have read enough on these boards to know what the condition of our secondary was last year. Seriously, do you really expect more of the same in our D-backfield?

Posted by pdhuff on July 19, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jcvet 3:18 - good post - Does Alabama come to mind?

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim dont get me wrong harvin is a great player i would just like to get a little physical with him at the los, like i said pick your poison give him cushion and he tears you up or hit him at los maybe throws timeing off ,or he breaks the contact and nobody catches him. by the way you didnt have to show me that garbage again i had wiped that out of my memory, besides our special teams have been trash for a while now

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and yes for some strange reason we thought it wise to cover some of the fastest guys in the sec with linebackers last year (see ryan karl post above), dont know if it was by design of our def coaches (hope not)or opposing teams put us in those bad positions

Posted by BAMABLOWS on July 19, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

the best scenario would be to get to tebow early and often and actually hit him when (if) we get there

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

God, I'll be glad when these kids start back to school. I'm sick of reading this retarded fecal matter.

Posted by ncvol on July 19, 2008 at 8:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am so glad the football season is almost upon on.

Go Vols....
Not black vols, Not white vols, Not redneck vols.. GO Vols....
Liked the Rocky Top Song, Ashley.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 19, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jcvet: Here is one for you to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGEUhg...

Get out the flour.

Posted by 1974Vol on July 19, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gators have done a great job of bringing in cutting edge coaches. Took Vols years to catch up with the Spurrier Fun & Gun and now we're trying to match up with Myers Spread Option. Look for our weak side LB to look more and more like a safety to keep us out of the match up problems we have had with Florida of late. The problem Urban will have going forward is finding a Tebow every 3 years. He'll be able to get the atheletisism but not the size consistly. Those QB's he used at Utah couldn't take a SEC pounding. Every one has taken their shots at Tebow and to date he keeps getting up. But how often does a kid with his size and ability come along? But unfortunately for Vol fans he's there two more years. Wrong style for the NFL except as a safety or weakside LB. He'll go pro after sr. year just like the LSU kid did; as a defensive player.

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 19, 2008 at 8:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

1974 - what do we need with cutting edge coaches when we have Fulmer?

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh yeah, Mikesean666. Socialism has never worked and never will. They just want to get elected by an ignorant population down and out because of bad decisions (you), then become dictator aka Chavez who ran as a liberal socialist like Obama and took over. Be afraid be very afraid of idiots like you.

Posted by 1974Vol on July 19, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Melon that's Mr. Hamilton's problem. I just cheer when they win and cuss when they lose and then go back to the really important stuff.

Posted by 1974Vol on July 19, 2008 at 9:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Guys (& girls) the banner says govols.com Leave the politics for another site please.

Posted by 55Vol on July 19, 2008 at 9:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim...Tebow will never win an NCAA title nor a Superbowl. He is a fullback with an adequate arm in disguise..plain and simple.

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 9:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Watermelon, Good video. That puts kids today in a nutshell [Large nutshell], but I don't think they move around that much.

Posted by LargeOrange on July 19, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The rumor from Kap is that John Adams will re-appear tomorrow, I kinda hope not, it has been nice not hearing from him. I found this picture and posted it where you could see it, which might shed some light on where good ole JA has been. Uncanny resemblance if you ask me.

http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m3...

Posted by TK on July 19, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh boy! More safety size LB's. Speed is great. BUT, if you do not have some size when you get there you look like a bowling pin.

Posted by jcvet on July 19, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pdhuff, yes that is one of many games I had in mind.

Posted by pdhuff on July 19, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

NC!!!! Our goal is eight wins. Its in writing.

Posted by dfreeman on July 19, 2008 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TJ - I came back for to read this stupid junk? Is there another place for big orange peace?

Posted by cjraney on July 19, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mcbrim/DC-
The guy in the video above appears to be Deangelo Willingham. He was a juco transfer corner playing in his first SEC game against the Gators.

Fulmer said last week he improved more over the off-season than any other player he's ever coached. That's a pretty bold statement but...he still might be 2d string. Yes, he got torched by the Gators.

Posted by ctownvol on July 19, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean-I live in Atlanta too and now I am embarrased to know I live this close to a "person" like you.
General- Did eduardo not ever make it over to cut your grass?

Posted by ctownvol on July 19, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

DC- We know. Even if 55 has no clue.

Posted by dfreeman on July 19, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean - Mark!!

Posted by chrisw2967 on July 19, 2008 at 11:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mikesean
barack "Hussein" Obama + muslim + anti american= terrorist

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 1:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DCflorida... Wow guy. Your Obama comments made my day. Even if we can't agree on football, at least we can agree that we don't want more of our freedoms stolen... we don't want the country to become less responsible and more immoral.

BTW, I'm not suggesting McCain either. Unless McCain hits a grand slam with his VP... I'm voting for Barr.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 1:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, Obama isn't Muslim. He's worse. He's a professing Christian who denies the authority of scripture and preaches/promotes/supports a false gospel.

The Bible calls those types "wolves in sheeps clothing" because they devour the flock after convincing them that they are the shepherd. (Sheeps clothing refers to the fact that shepherds wore garments woven from the flock's wool)

Posted by invisiblekid on July 20, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18 and DCFL, you mean to tell me that you two weren't moved by the sophisticated arguments of our urbane visitor from the ATL? The one who was so proud of his adopted home that he stuck with the Knoxville area code in his handle.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Not my adopted home i'm from knoxville. what are you talking bout invisible kid good to see your still talking bout me the next day.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry for yesterdays tirade guys didn't mean to get so political and ruin the football talk, i can get on my soapbox at times. Back to football time in tennessee. no more politics or social commentary from mike(hussein-X)sean as you call me. strictly football from here on out fellas. Don't make any further references to me and politics i'm done with that i think we all no where i stand and why our country is in the current predicament it is in so no more on the issue from me. How bout them Vols.

Posted by sjt18 on July 20, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK Mike... I'll just leave you with this paraphrase of a Thomas Jefferson quip: Any gov't empowered to give you anything you want will demand the right to take anything you have... including your freedom.

He also believed that the gov't had absolutely no right to redistribute income... or run schools... or restrict religious expression in public places...

Liberalism/statism is just a deceptive ploy to empower gov't to confiscate genuine God given rights then sell them back to the people as privileges... and proclaim the politicians "benevolence" in the process.

If Obama wants to prove his sincerity... he can drop out of the race and use his OWN considerable resources to privately help the poor... there is no generosity involved in taking someone else's money and giving it to another.

I'm not nearly done with my soapbox... but out of consideration for others I'll stop.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Please i'm trying hard to leave the political discussions off this site but people keep trying to pull my back in. "Just When I Thought I Was Out They Pull Me Back In" now thats a classic line right there. But i'm actually gonna take the high ground on this one and not even respond. Mikesean isn't responding to any more political comments. Strictly football by request of the numerous vol fans on here and since despite our differences and disagreements we are all VOL fans above it all and at the end of the day we all bleed orange so i'll leave it right there. Peace and love to anybody routing for the vols, black, white, christian, muslim, rich, poor. Together Vol Nation Stands Divided We Fall. I'm running for Pres. in 2012 send donations to mikesean4prez.com lol

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cool nafslov its a pact.

Posted by invisiblekid on July 20, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mikesean, you just made that kind of impression on me, you should feel honored. Glad to see you are not discussing politics anymore, it really brings down the level of discourse on here.

Agree with you on Vol Nation. It knows no social, political, or racial boundaries. Have a good one.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Definitely invisible kid, thanks for being real enough to hear me out even after the disagreements yesterday. So for the record to those who i offended yesterday my apologies. I'm just a very passionate person, be it politics, sports, career, love-making etc. Got a little carried away, but i'm back to football discussions only and will be ignoring anything not football related.

Posted by mikesean865 on July 20, 2008 at 5:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And half of it was just jokes anyway!

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 7:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Manning actually threw for about 600 more yards than Tebow did last season in 1997.....over 3,800+ versus 3,200+ He did this with inferior talent and no early running game - Jamal Lewis was a true Freshmen who was not even getting off the bench (e.g. against Florida).

Posted by General_Watermelon on July 20, 2008 at 7:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think Jamal played a couple of snaps against Florida in 1997 and got like 4 or 5 yards per carry. Fulmer felt he didn't know the playbook and couldn't block well enough. I was at that game and screaming to give the ball to Jamal. Had Jamal played, the offensive balance would have killed Florida.

Posted by pdhuff on July 20, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gen W - Never and I mean never- question Chairman Fulmer or his little red chart. Jamal did not fit in the chart, so Chairman Fulmer stayed the course.

Even worse was when Dooley decided to take a chance on a RB named Walker in Knoxville.

So this is your last warning.

You screw up again and Dupree will move in your basement for 6 months.

So there...

Posted by b_neas on July 21, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If our DL can do there job our LB's can shine. Something they have not been able to do in the last 2 to 3 years.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on July 22, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Donald was a true freshman last year. Ahead of him for p.t., based on experience and age was Mayo, Karl, McCoy, Wilson, Myers-White, McKenzie, and L.Thompson, (and Dorian Davis at the time?) so no, I don't guess you have seen him do much so far. But I saw him play in the O&W and he made some plays there, so stay tuned.

Posted by miamiVOL on July 23, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

interesting to see, I think McCoy will