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The complaints that Tennessee lodged concerning Connecticut’s women’s basketball recruiting practices were cumulative in nature and not based on a singular, seismic event.
UT filed more than 30 pages of documents with the SEC office during a five-month period in 2006. Everything from newspaper articles and photos to Internet chatroom e-mails were submitted in alleging a pattern of violations. The New Sentinel obtained the information Friday after making a request through the Tennessee Public Records Law..
The material submitted by Tennessee alleges that multiple NCAA bylaws pertaining to boosters involvement, permissible recruiters and offers and inducements, among others, might have been violated.
Among the specifics:
n There are multiple references to the role of former UConn players Diana Taurasi and Sue Bird in the recruiting process.
n Connecticut’s 2005 Super Show, an annual October event that typically draws former players and recruits, was mentioned prominently.
n Although the name was redacted, there’s an apparent reference to then-top recruit Maya Moore’s visit to ESPN. The sports and entertainment network reported last month that UT raised a complaint over a private tour the Huskies women’s basketball office helped arrange in October 2005 for Moore and her mother, Kathryn.
The material gives weight to a comment made by Connecticut coach Geno Auriemma during a press conference last Tuesday. When asked about the series between the two schools ending, he referred to Lady Vols coach Pat Summitt in saying, “She accused us of cheating at recruiting.”
Tennessee opted not to sign a contract sent by UConn last spring, which would’ve extended the series by two seasons.
When reached Friday, Summitt continued her practice of not commenting on the ongoing saga.
Lady Vols athletic director Joan Cronan issued a statement that said, “We supplied the requested documents under the Freedom of Information Act and have nothing further to add.”
In a letter dated July 27, 2006, Cronan wrote: “From time to time, we have encountered situations related to the University of Connecticut’s women’s basketball program that would seem to be a violation of the rules. On occasion, we have called the compliance office at Connecticut to determine how they do some of the things we had questions about — in hopes that we could do the same thing — only to be told they would get back to us, which never occurred.”
Regarding Taurasi’s and Bird’s activities, UT submitted two newspaper stories in which prospect Caroline Doty described how a conversation in Auriemma’s office with the former UConn stars played a factor in her choosing the Huskies.
There’s another reference to a student-athlete, who’s name was redacted, telling her AAU coach that Taurasi and Bird met her at the door of Gampel Pavilion upon her arrival for the 2005 Super Show and escorted her to the coaches’ office.
A chatroom entry submitted described Bird and Taurasi “schmoozing” with then-top prospect Elena Delle Donne after her visit for a Super Show.
There’s no mention, however, of Bird and Taurasi offering Moore, then a high school junior, a ride to the Naismith Awards event after the 2006 Final Four. Connecticut reportedly had to produce documents proving Taurasi’s and Bird’s whereabouts in April 2006. They were playing with a team from Moscow in the European Championships.
Taurasi was quoted in the Hartford Courant at the time as saying, “When I visit (Auriemma) and I try to do so as often as I can because of all his family did for me when I was there, the only people I talk to are the current players.”
Other Super Show complaints included fans tailoring signs for recruits and then giving them to their parents. Media members interviewing recruits also was submitted.
Tennessee also alleged that former Connecticut players are allowed to practice with the team on a regular, rather than an occasional basis.
In the 2006 letter, Cronan said the information submitted by UT, “comes as a result of discussion among basketball coaches at the SEC Spring meeting, information shared by AAU and high school coaches, prospective student-athletes, as well as numerous other individuals.”
© 2008, Knoxville News Sentinel Co.

Posted by General_Watermelon on April 25, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
UCON = CHEATERS
Posted by TurboFan on April 25, 2008 at 7:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Doldroms? What doldroms? This is getting interesting.
Posted by utvol008 on April 25, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
wow 35 pages !
Posted by lempga on April 25, 2008 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mcbrimm1998--the clock failed because I wanted it to. Now, take your marbles and go home.
Posted by jimr07 on April 25, 2008 at 8:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mcbrim--where in that article did you see any reference to internet chat rooms? did you learn to read, if not, i will send you grandchildrens see dick run book. howeve on second thought, that would be way ahead of your ability to comprehend. WHAT AN IDIOT. and i apologize to all idiots.
Posted by TropicalFish on April 25, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
>>mcbrim--where in that article did you see any reference to internet chat rooms?
Um... here?
>>The documentation, which was obtained by the News Sentinel after a request was made through the Freedom of Information Act, includes newspaper articles and ***internet chatroom material***
Seems like the Lady Vols have their spies at The Summitt...that'd be impartial journalist Maria Cornelius among others, I suppose...
Posted by camoman270 on April 25, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Man what an issue! Didnt Ucant call the moore issue secondary???
Maybe the other 35 pages = primary?
Posted by rusty_shackleford on April 25, 2008 at 8:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
McOwned is back! Just couldn't stay away from your beloved Vols, could you, goober?
Posted by RJ_Vol on April 25, 2008 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Sounds like a little more than the ESPN thing, but I don't know without seeing the document.
Posted by volfan on April 25, 2008 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmm...just wondering...were those 35 pages single spaced and what size font was being used? Now then, Jello Ornery Enema the ball is in your court. What say you now? I have always felt that it was more than a clash of personalities. Fess up Enema... Tell us the "rest of the story."
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mcbrim, what does any of this have to do with you? I wish these wanna B's would follow their own team and blog on their own chat line. Mcbrim, did you not see the part that said SEC COACHES discussed this matter? YOU must think geno and pat were the only 2 after maya moore. Don't you think that the state she is from got upset by gino cheating. Quit trying to degrade pat summit. When your school gets anything like pa t then holla. Until then, find a websight that follows YOUR team and get lost!!!! GOPAT, GOVOLS!!!!
Posted by Einstein on April 25, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
GENO is a ---- ant. I hope he gets his sorry a-- b--- caught in a vise.
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mcbrim1998, who is your team? 1998 was the year of the VOLS! DON'T YOU FORGET IT BOY! As much time as you spend blogging on the vols, you may as well jump on the wagon or get ran over by it. If the others agree then we might slow the wagon down so you can get on. Otherwise get a life.
Posted by tndrum on April 25, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The incredible house of basketball success that Joan and Pat have built is massive, unprecedented and amazing. But it is made of glass none the less. If the NCAA finds violations to be worthy of penalty, then they'll hand that down to our friends in Connecticut. And if they do not find much more than a tour of ESPN in the area of violations, then the penalties will be minor. Either way, those of us in the glass house must prepare for the rock throwing to begin. I hope the glass is strong.
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the espn tour has is in the rearview of the ncaa. I truly think they are looking into rumors of maya moores mom suddenly getting a house and a car after she has never owned a home,etc,etc. Hey, lets bring peyton manning back to influence our recruites, and see how long it takes you haters to respond. Maybe pat should let future recruites roll with candace parker to certain events. Bet they wont like it.
Posted by abnermc on April 25, 2008 at 9:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It is!!!
Posted by yemmusdarb on April 25, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
UCONN cheats and we still win yet another national championship. How do you argue against that one mc-rimjob1998?
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 9:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Way before all of this there were rumors of maya riding to events with diana taurasi and sue bird. Now these allegations? Sorry mcbrim, guess I did not quite clarify what I meant a few min. ago.. GENO KNOWS what happened! Deep down he knows. Volfan, loved the blog you wrote about MR.ENIMA, keep it comin, go vols!!
Posted by BillVol on April 25, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Aha, I think we know now why Geno had a strangely timed presser the other day. He knows the SH.. is getting ready to hit the fan. He won't last much longer at UConn. Pieces of eight! Go Lady Vols!
Posted by drakosben1 on April 25, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
How dare, Tennessee say anything after their clock cheated Rutgers? ESPN will excuse Conn and accuse Tennessee of something.
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
billvoll, I couldn't agreemore. The same week rumors have the ncaa on their campus he explodes. The ncaa is not on uconns campus for the espn tour, go figure.
Posted by RockyTop on April 25, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I don't remember seeing the clock playing anyone. Rutgers had a chance to play us again, but they didn't make it that far. I guess that was the clocks fault too.
Posted by RocketVol on April 25, 2008 at 9:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks/children, internet chatroom material can be used against someone to convict a felony - I wouldn't knock it as garbage. But, nothing has been revealed - I suggest you end the bickering and wait for more info.
Posted by BleedOrange on April 25, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Blah, blah, blah.....Seriously, when the main sport at your school is women's basketball it is time to pick a new school. IT'S FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE!!!!!!
Posted by lempga on April 25, 2008 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ESPN reports that they requested the FOIA.
ESPN:
ESPN had requested the Tennessee complaint in March under the Freedom of Information Act. Tennessee released the information Friday.
Posted by pdhuff on April 25, 2008 at 10:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This just in - Tenn has been penalized for upsetting Geno.
The Lady Vols are forced to ship a 55 gallon drum of pomade to UConn.
With a foot pump....
Posted by volfan on April 25, 2008 at 10:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whoooeee! It is getting rough in here! My mama always told me that when things got rough and out of hand, that I was to leave immediately and come home...(er...er.. gulp...has anyone seen my britches?)
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 10:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pdhuff, goood, oh that was so good.
Posted by yemmusdarb on April 25, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mcrimjob1998: the clock issue was regular season, just for arguments sake I'll give Rutgers the W and UT the L. soooo where were you guys at when we were waiting for you in the final game??? oooh that's right!! you got drilled by the Stanford team that WE drilled 2 days later!! 8 national championships without cheating... you guys are behind by 3 WITH cheating. way to go!
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 10:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Who does mcrim like? I can't tell who his team is. I just know he don' like TENN. GO VOLS
Posted by slambob2 on April 25, 2008 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whether they cheated or not doesn't really matter. What does matter is that Pat is far and away the best ambassador for the sport and she's head and shoulders above Geno or any other women's coach.
The funny thing is, UT plays everybody who's anybody in basketball while UConn takes on Infirm U and chubby tech (outside of a great Rutgers team). The point is, the loss of that series kills Uconn, but doesn't affect UT that much.
It could even mean the UConn won't be on TV and won't land the big recruits without some ES** help. :)
slambob
Posted by cdldoc on April 25, 2008 at 10:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Is UConn in Alabama? This cheating school belongs in the cheating state.
Posted by BigOrangeVol on April 25, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As I've been saying all along... Pat shut the UConn contract down because of their questionable recruitment of Hunter, Houston, Charles, Moore, Doty and Delle Donne; the ESPN thing is just the tip of the iceberg.
Guys as far as the chat room thing is concerned; please read it again! It clearly states that "photos to Internet chat room e-mails were submitted in alleging a pattern of violations."
It said nothing about using chat rooms as a source for facts nor internet chat room material, just photos to chat room emails. Obviously the photos were used in conjunction with other evidence to validate and document it thoroughly. A picture is worth a thousand words!
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You guys all have good points.
Posted by MillisaAnn on April 25, 2008 at 11:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree cdldoc. Hey wonder if Spurrier is giving Auriemma tips on cheating?
Posted by pendav on April 25, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey, UT fans -
Uconn has been recertified by the NCAA(April 25, 2008), affirmation that the institution operates its athletics program in conformity with the operating principles adopted by Division I membership.
Similar to the reaccreditation process for its academic operation, NCAA certifications are conducted on 10-year cycles. Uconn last went through the process and was certified in 1998.
The NCAA site visit team FOUND CONFORMITY TO NCAA RULES AND REGULATIONS 'IN EVERY IMPORTANT AREA.'
UT has an excellent coach & excellent program. No one from CT ever doubted that. However Uconn also has an excellent coach & excellent program.
CASE CLOSED.
Posted by drakosben1 on April 25, 2008 at 11:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
now u conn's got something to prove. Instead of fessing up, they'll now all want revenge.
Posted by RichRollin on April 25, 2008 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Every coach that said he wasn't either leaving his team or breaking ncaa rules always semms to end up not telling the truth. We will see. Like Pat said, "GENOKNOWS"!!!!
Posted by pendav on April 26, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The full article from UConn's website:
Part I (too long to put on in one piece)
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT CERTIFIED BY NCAA
STORRS, CT (4/25/08) The University of Connecticut has been recertified by the NCAA, affirmation that the institution operates its athletics program in conformity with the operating principles adopted by the Division I membership.
Similar to the University’s reaccreditation process for its academic operation, NCAA certifications are conducted on 10-year cycles. UConn last went through the process and was certified in 1998. Also similar to reaccreditation, the certification follows a comprehensive, year-long self study of the division’s operations, a site visit by a peer review team, a NCAA certification committee’s review of the self-study, and a report by the peer review team.
The self-study includes a review of these primary components: governance and commitment to rules compliance; academic integrity; equity and student-athlete well-being.
Ronald Schurin, an associate professor of political science and former executive special assistant to then-President Philip E. Austin who chaired the self-study committee, said the division (and the University)did well virtually across the board.
“We’re blessed in that we’ve been successful on the field while operating a program that is integrated into the mission of the University,” Schurin says. “We have winning teams and we do well in all the important areas. This is a tribute to both the institution’s commitment to the integrity of the program, and the dedication of an exceptional staff and outstanding student-athletes.”
Schurin made particular mention of the University’s academic support for student-athletes.
“The site visit team and the NCAA itself had real praise for the academic support provided through the Counseling Program for Intercollegiate Athletics (CPIA),” Schurin said. “In fact, the NCAA asked if they could share with other schools the report compiled on the CPIA’s activities.
“We’re also doing well with equity, where we’ve been a national leader in promoting access. And to our gratification, the self-study team found that the institution goes the extra mile in assuring that our student-athletes receive appropriate educational support. We’re very mindful that the emphasis in the phrase ‘student-athlete’ is on the first word of that configuration.”
Schurin said the self-study committee and several sub-committees, which comprised about 60 volunteers, also found conformity to NCAA rules and regulations “in every important area.”
The University has 650 student-athletes participating in 24 intercollegiate sports at the Division I level, the highest level of athletics in the collegiate ranks.
. . . to be continued . . .
Posted by pendav on April 26, 2008 at 12:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
. . . continued . . .
The UConn article, Part II
“I’m very pleased to learn today that the University of Connecticut has been certified by the NCAA following a full review of our entire athletics program, as part of the NCAA’s ongoing, mandatory, certification process,” UConn President Michael Hogan says. “I’m very proud of our athletics administration and coaches, our student-athletes and the many staff members who do so well representing UConn in intercollegiate athletic competition. The NCAA’s certification is a testament to the quality of our program and the principles that we seek to cultivate.”
“The NCAA certification is a testimony to the commitment of our entire University,” added UConn Director of Athletics Jeffrey Hathaway. “The operating principals that the NCAA requires each member school to follow are a priority to our institution and all who are part of the greater University community. I want to publicly thank the many Division staff members, UConn faculty/staff, campus administrators and friends of the University who participated in this important process. I also wish to recognize our student-athletes and coaches who represent the University each and every day. Their passion and dedication has allowed us to be successful academically, athletically and in the development of outstanding leaders in our communities.”
Thank you for "listening" . . . these are the FACTS, as they are known.
Posted by Volfan1 on April 26, 2008 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Gomer mcowned (mcbrim) is a gator, who is obsessed with Tennessee. He longs to be a Vol and continually posts here.
Every post he makes confirms he is owned by the Vols. We don't post on gator sites...but he can't stay away. He's owned by the Vols.
Posted by BigOrangeVol on April 26, 2008 at 12:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The internet photo thing is butter! All you have to do is Google ANY UConn Super Show photos from 1990-through 2007 and there are violations staring them in the face that were captured for all time and publicly posted by UConn fans in attendance. I feel another Geno rant building! Add the UConn Lady Husky fans to the list already consisting of UT, Pat and ESPN that are all at fault for his cheating. Next week’s “at fault” list will consist of Coach Fulmer, Albert Means, Lynn Lang, Jim Donnan, Rip Scherer, Roy Adams, Ronnie Cottrell , Ivy Williams and Logan Young posthumously.
FROM ESPN:
"Reportedly former UConn players are allowed to practice with the team on a regular, rather than occasional basis … when asked about this issue, the UConn compliance staff has repeatedly either denied or failed to respond as to how this is allowed."
The Tennessee letter stated: "It would appear that the following NCAA Bylaws may have been violated," and cited 11 bylaws including "employment arrangement, offers and inducements and boosters involved in recruiting."
Other material released Friday under the Freedom of Information Act included 32 pages of what Tennessee said was "information that supports the belief that the fans and former elite student-athletes at Connecticut continue to be involved in the recruiting process," and a letter dated Nov. 14, 2006 from Donna C. Thomas, Tennessee's senior associate athletic director who is in charge of compliance, saying, "It would appear that the involvement of these individuals is outside the rules."
With five or six National Players of the Year on the current team those girls may get to play the entirety of their college careers... on PROBATION!
Posted by 98reax on April 26, 2008 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Good grief!
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Justice is coming.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=21Rf0URZfLQ
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Showdown.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3SZE2o5_Wg...
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In the end...after all is said and done...this will be Geno's song and disposition about his former basketball team.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TXZMZ-Xvvz...
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And the Lady Vols?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UrENw_6te7...
Posted by eb502us on April 26, 2008 at 7:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Some of you people need to take off your orange colored glasses on this one. As much as I want to side with Summitt here,I just can't. The whole thing smells of sour grapes and if UConn cheated, they will ultimately pay the price. It's not like they were negatively recruiting and telling Pat Summitt jokes to all the recruits. I might not have thought this way earlier, but after Pat made the comments prior to the Duke game, that told me all I needed to know about how emotional and trigger happy she gets over things that are totally out of her control. I agree that she should stand up for her players and the program, but the way she's gone about it is just not right. Instead, she should be saying to other teams "go ahead and do anything (legal or otherwise)you can to get an advantage, but it won't matter as we're going to beat you anyway." Instead, she comes off as overly defensive and hostile when no defense was really needed. If UConn did indeed cheat, then the NCAA will take care of that.
Posted by mparker on April 26, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is my guess on the topic. UCONN may be 'pushing some limits' and maybe practicing a pattern of slight infractions. They are doing JUST enough to get some big name recruits over UT.
I just wonder if there is something deeper involved, maybe some things that would be harmful to the sport if reported.
Ah, well, it's all good for UCONN; they have more talent on the floor than we do now, and the next couple of years look tough for us.
Posted by dopedawg on April 26, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
To be re-certified, does each university do a self-study?? If thats the case, then I am sure every school will be re-certified. "Oh, yes we took a look, and we are doin ok"!! Is that how it works??
Posted by TurboFan on April 26, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BigOrangeVol, the original article posted said "internet chat rooms" and nothing about pictures.
Overall, if these assertions are true, they seem like minor violations. No cars, no money bags.
Pendav, is that article supposed to indiate that the NCAA has completed its investigation of these allegations? Or a coincidental review?
Posted by huntined on April 26, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If my memory still serves me correct mcbrim1998 is a big GATOR BOY
If he is still a GATOR leave him alone as he don't have anything going with his 3rd place east football and his no ncaa bid basketball and not sure they still have women basketball
welcome back mcbrim stay in here with winners
Posted by Titan on April 26, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
eb - I would hazard to guess that of all the athletic programs that have come under investigation and ultimate penalties, 99% of them have been reported by someone - most likely another school. I don't think the violations are stumbled upon during the course of pendav's "certification". My take is that Pat and UT tried to handle it informally with UConn the way these things are handled in conference. You let the other school know that you think they are over the line. A smart program will take the hint and clean up. UConn apparently chose not to. What comes next is anybody's guess but as far as pendav's "CASE CLOSED" - I think not. I think it has just begun.
Posted by pdhuff on April 26, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tngeoff - when a greaseball from 800 miles away gets near-300 posts compared to a great Mayo's less than 50, malaise and doldrums have covered the land.
Also, Phil tags along to Wash DC with Summit after giving up 141 to Cal-Bama-Fla. Go figure.
Maybe he was hawking the new no-ring ring 10th.
Summer is here in the Cumberlands.
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
pdhuff.
Geno is goofy. By the way...I'm planting big time today. Love this time of year. My Shepherd alerted to me to a couple of gobblers crossing through our woods to the field in back. I should have modified my wifes dinner plans in liue of fresh wild turkey...but alas...I had mercy on them!
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What was on their mind?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kyZMTTbsNf...
Posted by volfan on April 26, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmm...just wondering...is self-studying anything akin to telling the hound dog to guard the smoke house? Or
allowing the cat to "protect" the canary? Also isn't it the DUTY of schools to report infractions that other schools are guily of? If you witness a crime being committed do you turn your head and pretend that it did not happen, or do you come forth to the officials and relate what you observed? Justice will be served...hopefully!
Posted by rccheek on April 26, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pendav's lengthy and boring postings report only the results of a routine ten year required 'self study' in which UConn says we have looked at ourselves and we think we are fine. It does not mean that the investigation of the reported violations is over. It is just beginning
Posted by abnermc on April 26, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Awww, pendav is back!!!So everywhere before UCONN was eliminated, BUT nowhere to be found after the nets were cut.lol
Pen, tell us again how uconn is on the rise & UT is falling.Face reality.
Oh, & for everyone's info McWhateverbrim is a huge fan of last night's winner.
Posted by invisiblekid on April 26, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
RocketVol, it's a good suggestion but do you really expect many to listen? Seems like the NCAA would have taken some form of action by now if there were any serious questions given they have had the information for nearly two years. None of this changes the issue of Auriemma being an abrasive and rude jerk though.
Posted by orange4ever on April 26, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Don't forget a big cheat'n crybaby.
Posted by pdhuff on April 26, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well, all we need now is posivol - 12 times -airforce one to go with ol' pendav Tolstoy.
All are welcome.
Free TDTN and where is Vol4Jesus when you need him? Geno needs anger management counseling.
Posted by BigOrangeVol on April 26, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Courant has printed NOTHING about this latest development. Shocking!
More smoke:
Elena Delle Donne was videotaped making statements about a website in the business of posting player videos to aid their recruitment "there is no evidence to suggest that Ms. Delle Donne received remuneration of any kind, nor is there evidence of permission or consent by the Delle Donne's for the service to use the video to promote or endorse the service." Hmmmmmmm, really?
UConn/Auriemma mysteriously cancelled their basketball summer camp this year alluding only to "unforeseen circumstances" forcing the camp's shutdown. Coincidence? Unforseen as in about to be part of the terms of their probation?
Also, it seems to have been lost in the tirade against Pat but Auriemma's racist rant about minorities with no experience having the edge in hiring is an obvious temper tantrum in reaction to Nikki being hired by UCLA and Niya being hired by Arizona because nobody wants his scrubs Chris Dailey, Tonya Cardoza or Jamelle Elliott. Whaaa, whaaa, whaaa.
I don’t think we need to concern ourselves with the infantile antics of little Geno because he and their corrupt program are about to snap and implode anyway. His Mommy just needs to give him some warm milk, get him in his one-piece Spidey jammies and tuck him into bed for the long summer season.
Posted by 98reax on April 26, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Some post above stated '09 Lady Vols have less talent than UC. It's too early to say that, isn't it? We just saw what Pat can do with a team. We've seen it 8 times, actually. I have not seen this group of freshmen play with our upperclassmen. I'm thinking Pat will have them ready to compete by pre-season. I do not doubt her coaching abilities.
So soon you forget the '98 rookies kicking some mighty butt from start to finish. Why not think it will happen again?
We have Cain who has been sitting on the sideline soaking in all that coaching, along side McMahan who has the heart and guts of a champion. Bjorkland will have her super soph shooting touch, and Alex Fuller will be the leader that steps in for Anosiki. I know Pat saw something in Smallbone and I believe she will bring that talent to the forefront by Conference play. How can we not be a solid team?
Besides, the team with the most talent doesn't always win, do they? Especially if they are on probation, wins don't count for much.
Posted by jcvol on April 26, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I say again, 'with this much smoke, there has got to be a little fire!'
Posted by Titan on April 26, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Even with a rebuilt team next year, sometime after Christmas, Pat will soar to heights never seen before - 1000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I only hope it is at home so that TBA can be filled to the rafters. (Of course, the view from the rafters is getting a bit crowded what with all those banners hanging down in the way.) Think Geno will make a congratulatory call or text to Pat's cell phone that night? Probably not.
Posted by volfan on April 26, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
FLASH! FLASH! FLASH!
Hey y'all hie thineself to the Hartfort Courant newspaper and read a l o n g report on the shennanigans involving the recruitement practices of UConn and their arrogant coach, Jello Ornery Enema. Enlightening! Now we await the falling of the other shoe!
Posted by wewhite on April 26, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pat: Gathers evidence; submits it to proper authorities through proper channels; keeps it out of the press, as it's the NCAA's business; will accept whatever the NCAA decides; chats about next season with pal Bruce Pearl; polishes her EIGHT national championship trophies; prepares for number nine in '09.
Geno: Calls press conferences; accuses the greatest coach in college basketball of being petty; goes on every TV and radio show he can to gripe about how his (team's) lack of success this year is based on the cancellation of the UT series; worries that UConn men's program is getting too much publicity; works on his Napoleonic complex.
In the words of the great Stan Lee, "'Nuff said."
Posted by TigerVol on April 26, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It sounds to me like the Lady Vols are searching here. Looks like they have nothing on UConn and are just trying to find anything to bring down Geno and Pats feud. I actually don't care about any of this, but now I can at least turn the Sports Animal off for a week because this is all Mickey "Lady Vol" Dearstone will talk about....but he only talks about the Lady Vols when asked...yeah right. Let the Lady Vols and the lol.."Women's Athletic Dept." actually make some money and quit riding the Men's Wave of financial success. I will get my cans of food ready for next year so I can get attendance at the games...sell out and we gathered 18,000 cans of Beanie Weenie's
Posted by Huntingdonvol on April 26, 2008 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Here is the Hartford news paper article and read the fans responce!http://www.courant.com/sports/college...
Posted by budd on April 26, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tigervol,
Please discuss your problems with women and how your momma potty trained you with your shrink. I don't need to read 'em here
Posted by tennisvol on April 26, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like ole Geno got caught with some violations. Of course, he could be partially upset because Stanford put it to them in the final four this year. Maybe the loss brought his ego down just a little.
Posted by rockytopron on April 26, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
UT does the right thing, wins 2 championships in a row, UConn cheats and crys foul when Pat pulls the plug. There seems to be some serious character issues in Connecticut these days. Makes you wonder about the tarausi years doesn't it?
We are all seeing the real geno come out with some egg on his face. He is embarrassed and is only acting the way his kind can act, by putting the blame on others and trying to cause distractions.
Wouldn't it be nice to see UConn get really punished by the NCAA?
Posted by TurboFan on April 26, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Coupla things.
The Hartford Courant article at least includes a quote from UConn reps saying the investigation is over and done with only one infraction found, that being the Maya Moore incident. Nothing from KNS here indicating that.
Neither the Courant nor Sentinel has dug far enough to find out if the Super Show has changed or been canceled since and why.
Another thing, winning championships does not prove you right or wrong.
One last thing: it is not suprising to find some Husky fans to be just as ignorant and juvenile as some Vol fans on websites.
Posted by volball7222 on April 26, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)
News flash! More to report on 2006 and 2007 and 2008! It wont be the Lady Vols that report it but ESPN has to be sweating bullets....Why doesnt Scripps by ESPN and move them to Knoxville--we will welcome Chris Fowler and the whole gang! We may have some CBP orange jackets for them to wear for Sports Center!
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Secret tape of Geno's girlfriend who will be taking over fitness training for the team.
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=m36-S362MAM
Posted by RocketVol on April 26, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I-kid, I am sure nothing will happen, but for those that think chatroom fodder can't be used as evidence in today's world are somewhat misinformed.
Tngeoff, did you mean Geno's boyfriend?
Posted by tngeoff on April 26, 2008 at 8:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
RocketVol.
They like to say "she" when referring to "her"...but without engaging in rocket science..."she" looks like a "he" to me. Good observation though. She or he is one scary UConn mate.
Posted by gbirchfiel on April 26, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I really can't wait on the John Adams piece that explains how Coach Phil Fulmer is behind this thing. It should be in the KNS by Tuesday. And I'm sure it will be another knee slapper.
Posted by 98reax on April 26, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Roisterous bloggers sitting in a tree
Painting everyone's good works negatively.
Wishing they could do anything half as good,
Which they probably could if they only would.
They're just stuck on themselves apparently
Sitting up there in their losers' tree
They have but one color; it's an ugly shade
Of hateful and spiteful remarks they have made.
Too bad they can't give credit to those who try.
Posting without abusive, off topic criticism, we apply
Respect to the athletes we admire and follow intensively.
They show up to revel in rudeness with such audacity.
I pity them stuck in their miasmic tree
From which they spew distain for you, for me,
And for those confident enough in their own skin
To support whomever; Fearing naught, continue to win.
Conscientious posters give no thought
To the misrepresentations they have brought,
But look for content of constructive allegiance
Not chauvinistic opinions of pugnacious ignorance.
Posted by tenncorncob on April 26, 2008 at 10:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks, it's all a show to sell papers. Here's a local sportswriter for UCONN soaking up Geno's every word and having a good laugh at UT's expense. This article appeared in the Hartford Courant. You better believe Pat has gotten his goat for sure....lol......
Totally enjoyed Geno's Emmy-winning performance on Tuesday, the day of his season-ending press conference. I understand some folks in Tennessee are upset with him. Poor babies. Here's the thing with Geno and the Lady Vols fans: They don't understand him and never will. They believe he is evil. They believe he will do anything he can to win, break whatever rule it takes. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Oh, he's been known to break things, but this is a family blog and I dare not be more specific. Let's put it this way: Geno knows that what he and how it says it makes people in Tennessee nuts. And that's why he enjoys it so much. If you can't play them, have a few laughs at their expense.
And by the way, you can call Geno all the names you want. He's heard them all before. He's from Philadelphia, remember, where they booed Santa Claus on Christmas. Sticks and stones may break his bones, but a Volunteer will never hurt him.
Posted by splinterdand on April 26, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Wouldn't it be wonderful to be able to turn back the clock to when Pat and Geno were in college and have the two of them (Pat the olympian and Geno the troll) play a little one on one. What a kick in the pants it would be to watch that beat-down.
Posted by tennesseehogfan1 on April 26, 2008 at 10:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
seems strange to me that right before Pat got T'd off at Geno,UCONN kicked the Lady Vols butt. Any UCONNection? ha,ha. Move on Pat and Geno!!!!!
Posted by mparker on April 26, 2008 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
wd40, some great posts on this topic.
This is how I look at it, and I've been an LV fan a LOOOONG time.
We ahd some embarrassments this year:
-Shannon's technical for taunting
-The Rutger's game, both how we played and the game clock
-the first LSU game, losing badly at home
-the UCONN flap, part 1
-the UCONN flap, part 2
-the Dook threats
Yes, we did win the NC, in a great gutsy run. I just with to hell the other stuff hadn't happened, particularly the Dook and UCONN flaps.
Tennesse is coming off as the 'take my ball and go home' school, and I'd rather see us like Candance's commercial (paraphrased): 'that's why we come to UT, to win championships'.
Right now, our top 3 coaches, CPF, CBP, and CPS all have a legacy of reporting others: CBP: Illinois, CPF: Bama, CPS: UCONN. Doesn't look good, in some ways.
Posted by conartist on April 27, 2008 at 1:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Who in the @#$@^T$@#% cares....God this is like two egomaniacs crying and complaining...It's just utterly ridiculous....Pat ... Stop saying that Geno knows why you're not playing one another...Just come out and give a straight answer...I guess the high and mighty Pat that just won two consecutive national championships - right didn't you win and UConn lost - needs to find some crying towels....Shut up and play ... and leave your toys in the sandbox.
Posted by pdhuff on April 27, 2008 at 5:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by Indianavol on April 27, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Geno is a spoiled little brat!
Posted by ande2029 on April 27, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tenncorncob,
Your post tells me everything I need to know about you, “Totally enjoyed Geno's Emmy-winning performance on Tuesday, the day of his season-ending press conference.” What I love about northerners is how you look down your noses at Southerners. You think it is funny when your leadership, gentleman geno, degrades or makes fun of anyone from the South. You are also from a blue state where making fun of Christians, people of integrity and faith is fair game. Your ignorance about people from the south and what makes them angry is typical from a blue state person, “I understand some folks in Tennessee are upset with him. Poor babies.” No man ever calls a woman a coward in the south and walks away uninjured.
Do you really believe the series was cancelled because of some recruiting flap?
Since you like humor so much I will give you a true story. The only person in my life to use a corn cob as toilet paper was a guy from Connecticut when we were out in the field. What made it worse was he wrapped it in poison ivy. If you do the same, good luck with that, here in the South we use toilet paper.
Posted by 88volgrad on April 27, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey pendave,
My driver license was recently renewed, so I guess that means the State of Tennessee has certified that I am an excellent driver.
Posted by packie56 on April 27, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
eb502us: I'm confused as to why you think PAT is the party who handled this poorly then say "If UConn did indeed cheat NCAA will take care of it.." which is precisely what she has been doing, not taking the bait every time Geno calls her out. And that's precisely why Geno does it--he knows she won't take the bait FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME. She knows more than she is saying and how much it can hurt the game, reputations. He's blowing smoke, trying to take down as many as he can with him. And Pat is handling this poorly?
Titan---Right on!
Posted by BillVol on April 27, 2008 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey, where's the article on Kathryn Moore's booming internet handbag business that was on another newspaper's site? Poof!
I wonder if her business was licensed in GA and if it is in CT? Can't you see the tax records from any business to find out what kind of sales they did?
Fleser, get to work on this on the double! ;-) J/K. I met you at Clemson before a UT-Clemson NCAA game. Top-notch person and reporter all the way. But could you look into this?
Posted by lnbadger320 on April 27, 2008 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tigervol, you are truly an idiot. you really have no idea what goes on with the UT program. you also have no clue about the NCAA rules.
Posted by Embarrassed on April 27, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It looks like we kept track of petty stuff. How embarrassing. Hey, that ad Pat did with ESPN sportscenter. That gives her an unfair advantage in recruiting being visible on America's most popular show. If I was UCONN I would complain. Look, we had a great year and won in a year that maybe we should not have. Pat did her best coaching job ever. But lets concentrate on the positive. Hey, Micky on the morning show.....keep your "homer' trap shut.....Egg on your face again. NO NCAA violations....Hey Mickey, my sources and they are not Geno say that Rutgers has filed a complaint p with the NCAA over the clock stoppage we cheated with......Come on people. We love our team, but we live in a glass house.
Posted by pdhuff on April 27, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Geno, wipe the back of your head, pat your butt and slide down a Federal period bannister in Conn.
Watch the knob at the bottom!
If you can, clean the grease off the railing!
Posted by pendav on April 27, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hi Embarrassed
You are 100% correct.
Posted by stevefrommemphis on April 28, 2008 at 12:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Stay clean, Alabama football. We are watching you, too.
Posted by manateemo on April 28, 2008 at 4:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
after 30 pages in inuendo, I spy, and bathroom wall charges the Uconn game was cancelled because Moore got a tour of ESPN. The NCAA looked at ALL the charges. Summitt tried to hide her envolvement by complaining thru the league and siting other coaches who deny involvement. All this because she lost a few recruits. Give her a crying towel to the hill billy
Posted by volfan on April 28, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In the video posted by the Courant newspaper in which Geno stated that he did indeed know why...he said that she ACCUSED us of cheating at recruiting. At no time did he DENY that they had not actually cheated. I still think that the other shoe will drop at any time. The NCAA never discloses any of the facts they glean until the final investigation is complete. Stand by for further developments! The South is agonna rize agin!
Posted by Titan on April 28, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
manatee - she doesn't need a crying towel - she can dry her eyes on her 8th banner. BTW - thought this year's banner was supposed to be hanging in Storrs by now. Oh - that's right, UConn didn't take care of business against the Cardinal. I can understand - we only beat them by 16.
Posted by Titan on April 28, 2008 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Embarrassed - tracking petty stuff = pattern. Congratulations, pendav is now your friend.
Posted by volboy81 on April 28, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
GIVE UCONN THE DEATH PENALTY!!!
Posted by FishTacos on April 28, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
McBrim needs to get a McBrain!! Idiot not much unlike Auriemma.
Posted by BigOrangeVol on April 28, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Maya Moore deal was not JUST a tour of ESPN. UConn set her up for an interview to secure an internship. This was not the fifty cent tour; it was hooking a prospective recruit up with a job!
Former UConn players are allowed to practice with the team on a regular, rather than occasional basis.
UT cited 11 bylaws including "employment arrangement, offers and inducements and boosters involved in recruiting. Information that supports the belief that the fans and former elite student-athletes at Connecticut continue to be involved in the recruiting process.
Elena Delle Donne was videotaped making statements about a website in the business of posting player videos to aid their recruitment.
Caroline Doty described how a conversation in Auriemma’s office with Taurasi and Bird played a factor in her choosing the Huskies.
A student-athlete told her AAU coach that Taurasi and Bird met her at the door of Gampel Pavilion upon her arrival for the 2005 Super Show and escorted her to the coaches’ office.
Where there's smoke there's fire folks and THAT is why the NCAA is on the UConn campus right now investigating these charges. So if they want to laugh it all off that should fine with us!
Auriemma mysteriously cancelled his basketball summer camp this year alluding only to "unforeseen circumstances" forcing the camp's shutdown. Why is that?
BTW, with Glory Johnson, Amber Gray, Alicia Manning, Shekinna Stricklen, Briana Bass and Alyssia Brewer we have the #1 recruiting class of 2008 to go along with the #1 class of 2007 with Angie Bjorklund, Vicki Baugh, Kelley Cain and Sydney Smallbone. We aren't concerned about Moore and Dixon or EDD, Buck, Doty or Hayes. I'll take our ten over their six any day!
Pat has hung eight NC banners in Thompson-Boling Arena in the same time frame that UConn has hung five. We have nothing to be jealous about or have sour-grapes over anyone!
The University of Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball program are the absolute and undeniable pinnacle of collegiate sports, period and Pat Summitt is unquestionably the greatest basketball coach that has ever lived. There is simply nothing to refute those facts.
Good luck staying off of probation when the smoke clears UConn!
Posted by tenncorncob on April 28, 2008 at 4:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ande2029
I was quoting an article in the Hartford Curant, those were NOT my words. Those were the REPORTERS words. The point I was making is the point you alluded to...that is....northerners are always looking down their noses to southerners....been going on forever! However, it is not hard to see that Pat has gotten Geno the jerk's number. You could tell by his manner in the video. He was steaming. Kept saying Pat knows, apparently Pat saying Geno knows stepped on his toes. Now ande 2026, I am a Tennessee born, Tennessee bred, and when I die, I'll be Tennessee dead. Also, note, by my name and by my age, I did use a corncob in an outhouse when I was knee high to a frog. In fact, one Sunday our restroom caught on fire at church and almost spread to the main building...lol....I am not ashamed of my rural raising caused you ain't lived til you have been to a HOG killing and a PIG picking'!!!!!
Posted by manateemo on April 28, 2008 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Tenneessee filed a complaint using other caoches as a front and wouldn's be "man" enough to admit it.
The NCAA did a full review of UCONN in the spring of 2008 and was completely in compliance.
Uconn reported on incident involving ESPN. in 2007
Summitt thru her surogates and hiding in the back room filed a 30 THIRTY page complaint and the only infraction is considered minor.
Come out of the mountains and wake up. The issue is dead as far as the NCAA is concerned. Summitt's timing of the issue was intended to affect Uconns Current recruitng and SHE failed.
some day some of the respondents in this page will read before they have an opinion
Posted by pendav on April 28, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Bigorangevol
Get your facts straight. You state UT won 8 titles in the same time frame that Uconn won 5. THAT IS NOT CORRECT. UT won #1 in 1987 & #8 in 2008. That is 8 titles in 22 years for UT. Uconn won #1 in 1995 & #5 in 2004. That is 5 titles in a 10 year period for Uconn.
The NCAA has completed its investigation & the case is closed. They found no merit in UT claims.
Bigorange before you shoot off your big mouth I suggest you familarize yourself with the laws regarding slander.
Posted by derekld69 on April 28, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It seems to me that Pat has an agenda against Geno or something cause I mean why follow what a coach is doing for 3 years straight?..Is she following other programs the way she is watching UConn?Is it that Pat feels threatened by Geno and UConn, since there isnt any other program out there which is on the same level as Tenn other than UConn?What is wrong with former players visiting their former coach and teamates?Did UConn report to Big East that Pat's son had contact with Candace Parker on her recruiting trip??(She admitted that in ESPN interview for NCAA Tornament)...Cmon now, real petty stuff
Posted by ejanders on April 28, 2008 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I may not recall the exact years but, I first became aware of coach auriema when Rebecca Lobo was in her junior year and Ucon vs Tenn was just heating up as the premier rivalry in womens basketball. I thought coach auriema was a character but, I never doubted his passion for the sport or his abilities as a coach. I thought it was great to have a competent rival in the sport because it made the game better. As fate often does it sometimes rode with Uconn and other times with Tennessee as the years went by. Coach auriema continued to be a character and the talent and abilities displayed by players of both universities continued to improve. This was also< I believe< a good thing. Rebecca Lobo's first year of broadcasting for ESPN on womens basketball games began to open my eyes regarding the attitude of coach auriema and how it leached into his players past and present. Lobo's obvious bias in favor of Uconn and against Tennessee was unmistakable and I believe an embarassment for ESPN. I believe they counseled Lobo to lose her bias and give credit where it was due during her broadcast work. In her second season I saw no indication of outward expression of her Uconn bias. She was a better broadcaster for it and ESPN's product was improved because of it.
Here's the thing...Pat is such a great ambassador for the womens game and is so gracious in her lauding of other coaches in the profession. Coach auriema seems to be the opposite..a kind of dark entity that appears so very jealous of Pat and the lofty perch she resides on. This year has done much to tarnish coach auriema's reputation not just regarding the rules of basketball recruiting but, also his continual whining about "the feud" in the press.He helped create the situation and the athletic department at Uconn owns some culpability as well. Coach Auriema may coach for 50 years and win 15 national titles...but he will never own the respect and the integrity that coach Summitt is afforded for her lifetime of work in the womens game. Geno, you'll never be Pat and thats the bottom line. All your animosity is gonna give you ulcers and deservedly so. See you down the road a piece.
Posted by BigOrangeVol on April 28, 2008 at 9:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
My bad pinhead, since 1985 when Aurienema came to UConn, UT has won eight and UConn has won five. Does that make you feel better?
Look at what the NCAA has released! They haven’t closed ANYTHING!!!
PLEASE try and bring a libel suit against someone for stating what has already been printed in 100 media outlets!!! By the way you 'tard slander is spoken and libel is written. Jot that down somewhere close so you can refer to it so the next time you want to talk about something you know absolutely nothing about and you won’t look like such a fool. Obviously YOU should be the one to familiarize yourself with the law, Dumb@ss! Besides exactly what defamatory statements did I make that aren’t factual? Oh, do you need for me to clarify what constitutes a ” defamatory statement” or can you use a dictionary? Try Black’s Law Dictionary, they probably have it online if it isn’t in your extensive home library. Please try and refute anything that I posted.
Manatee no one used a “front” or “surrogate” to file the complaint; stating such just goes to show your total ignorance of the case and procedure. UT’s compliance officer called UConn’s compliance officer and stated their concerns asking for clarification. They were blown-off so Joan Cronan, UT’s Women’s Athletic Director, sent those concerns to the SEC Task Force Committee on Compliance and Enforcement Committee. The primary responsibility for rules compliance rests with the SEC’s chief executive officer, the member school’s athletics director & compliance coordinator and the sports head coach. That is where it stopped for UT. When it was determined a violation or violations of NCAA rules had occurred, the full report was forwarded to the NCAA national office. The SEC sent the complaint to the NCAA not UT. Of the 11 complaints, some are secondary and some are major, there is no such thing as a “MINOR” infraction as you stated. The SEC would never have sent their complaint to the NCAA if there were no infractions found to be justified! All of the information in my post is readily available if you care to research it. I challenge anyone to find a statement from the NCAA that says the UConn matter is closed and that no infractions were found. Nine months AFTER they were reported to the NCAA, UConn “self-reported” and issued THEIR statement but the NCAA hasn’t issued anything saying this is over with; to the contrary, to my understanding they are STILL investigating. So go get yourself a tall glass of UConn Blue Kool-aid and check out ncaa.org so YOU can come out from under the pall of ignorance and have a valid opinion that isn’t laughed at by those that understand the facts.
Here ends the lesson; school's out. Now go away or I will taunt you a second time!
Posted by pendav on April 28, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey bigorangevol
I have refuted what you have posted!!! You don't know your math regarding titles.
Posted by derekld69 on April 29, 2008 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
BigOrangeVol.......these are two links stating that the UConn investigation is closed...It is amazing that you call the infractions 'MINOR' and 'MAJOR'..but to the NCAA it seems secondary....Just crazy how Tenn fans PASSIONATELY dislike Geno and UConn....I am a Woman's Basketball fan...No one person is bigger than the sport and it seems that you Tenn put P. Summitt on a perch...Yes she is an ambassador from the woman's game but so is Geno..UConn is well know WORLDWIDE...UConn has to be the most popular woman's college basketball team of all time...to the blogger "ejanders"... to call Geno a dark entity on woman's basketball is not fair and states more than what u really know regarding woman's basketball...How did he help create the situation?..Did he cancel the series?Was he the one to not disclose any idea for up to a year to let the public, fans know why the most anticipated game of the woman's game was cancelled?...so I mean..who is the one that feels they are about everyone else?...Was it good for the sport to now be honest with everyone to why the series was cancelled?..I do agree that the game is bigger than Tenn-UConn..but I mean why not have that one game a year...it is like...Lakers-Celtics....Red Sox-Yankees...Duke-UNC in the men's game...So who is to blame...UConn for a secondary recruiting violation...I am sure they are not the only college to get a secondary violation...but why kill something so positive to the game?..Pat already said loosing Maya Moore was her biggest disapointment EVER in recruiting...so is she being a spoiled brat cause she didnt get what she wanted, so she doesnt wanna play Geno no more?..Did she get mad when she lost Ann Strother or Diana Taurasi to UConn?..She got fed up with losing to Geno in NCAA championship games and now on the recruiting trail....Too bad cause even her own former players didnt know why she canceled the series...I thought that if anyone person should know her it should be her former players.....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/st...
http://blogs.courant.com/sports_uconn...
Posted by UTvols12342000 on April 29, 2008 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
derekld69-"UConn has to be the most popular woman's college basketball team of all time"
you have to be kidding?!
Posted by derekld69 on April 29, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UTVols12342000........One of the most...my bad!!!Tenn is the pinnacle of woman's basketball....Most final fours, 8 mcaa championships, every year a sweet 16 appearance...so yes they are the pinnacle, but UConn is not far behind!!!!who is more recognized WORLDWIDE????They have to be the most recognizable woman's team in the world based on recognition, but Tenn is the most successful!!!but lets see when Geno reaches 34 years in the game...will he have more NCAA trophies than Pat?or and i wouldnt say arranging a tour of ESPN is such a cheating thing...cmon now..how petty!!!REALLY..if if Pat took a recruit to see GraceLand would anyone call that cheating?taking a recruit to a place that represents that state cause UConn is the State U of CT, is that a bad thing to show what the state of CT offers?It shows the possibility of what Ct has to offer not only basketball wise , but educational wise!!
Posted by truthsetsufree on April 29, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
30+ pages of allegations and yet the NCAA hasn't found significant violation - this doesn't look good for the accusers and could backfire. Too bad the fight can't get settled on the court. Huge egos - puny issues. Never seen such big winners act like such sore losers. Both coaches need to chill out and start acting like adults.
Posted by volfan on April 29, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
derekid and truth(?)setufree
Where can I find documentation that UCant is the most recognizable women's basketball team? Sounds like just some chest-thumping to me. Yes there were over 30 pages filed, but some pages had no, that is zilch, alleged infractions listed, but were merely inserted to lend continuity to the allegations and would hopefully prevent some lamebrains from saying "out of context, out of context." In recertifying...UCant says, "we are squeaky clean." Where is it reported, EXCEPT in the Courant, that the NCAA has closed the matter? I would like to be able to access that source. I still think that we are going to hear the other shoe fall...maybe not this week, but fall it will!
Posted by SmokeyOntheProwl on April 29, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It's amazing how the "Yankee" posters to this sight continue to emphasize that the ESPN tour was a trival infraction (and I know that the NCAA has ruled it as a secondary infraction, but it won't be the first time the NCAA has missed the boat).
Lets try to recreate the ESPN tour:
Rebecca Lobo: Good Morning Mrs Moore , Maya. My name is Rebecca Lobo and I'm going to be your tour guide.
Maya: Good Morning. I understand you played for UConn.
Rebecca Lobo: Yes. Maya are you interested in a career in broadcasting.
Maya: Yes. Actually I was hoping to get an internship.
Rebecca Lobo: Well let me introduce you to...
Just because we're from the South doesn't mean we don't know how things work. We're not stupid.
Posted by UTvols12342000 on April 29, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ok, lets compare the two.
Graceland - home of Elvis Presley, king of rock and roll
ESPN- the worldwide leader in sports broadcasting.
yeah, its not apples to oranges to say its no different than Pat showing a recruit Graceland. wahahaha
and please, will you educated, sophisticated, and superior conneticutt people show the link where the NCAA has closed the investigation?
GO LadyVOLS!
Posted by pendav on April 29, 2008 at 6:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey utvol12342000
The NCAA has had the information from the SEC for 2 years. The investigation s/b complete by now.
Posted by Titan on April 29, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
pendav - shoulda, coulda, woulda. I don't know if it's over - the NCAA moves really slowly. Some of the links above say they haven't received it and some quote the school as saying it is secondary and over. I don't know that the NCAA has actually made a comment so how do we know what the status is? I see lots of folks asking for a link to where the NCAA has stated what most UConn folks are saying - that it is over. But so far - maybe I missed it - I haven't seen the link. Inquiring minds want to know.
derek - need to work some on your southern geography. If Pat takes a recruit to Graceland, I will say that is definitely a violation since Graceland is in Memphis and is about 400 MILES from Knoxville.
Posted by pendav on April 29, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I too would like to know if the Uconn investigation is over. I have not seen a creditable source indicate if it is over or not. Many govt. agencies will not comment if an individual is under investigation or not under investigation. That may be the case with the NCAA. Just don't know.
Posted by tngeoff on April 29, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Drove through Connecticut last night on my way back up to Boston (mmmmm...lobsta'!). It was raining like crazy. It seemed so appropriate as I imagined poor Geno's tears and self pity. Then I heard a rumor that I dismissed that while Pat is finalized her divorce, secretly behind closed doors she and Geno are an item, but are using the public display as a distraction. Naaaaaa. Couldn't be! That would be waaaaaay to far fetched in my opinion.
Posted by mad_poly_uct on April 29, 2008 at 10:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff...lol!!! waaaaaaayyyyyy too far fetched my friend! Sure was raining like a b**ch last night wasn't it! Nothin' like trying to navigate I-95 in the rain, eh?(unless you chose another route)..."..tears and self pity.."?...nah, don't buy that one....unless his basement was flooded last night, then I'd buy into it!! Take care pal...
Posted by pendav on April 29, 2008 at 11:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey tngeoff
Geno & Uconn fans don't consider the season a failure. Lose 2 starters to season ending injuries and still make the final 4 is all that could be expected.
Posted by truthsetsufree on April 30, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
volfan - I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the other shoe to fall. Seems like 3 years of tracking would already be quite a wait - some would have let it go by now. Wonder how many other programs are being tracked - seems kinda paranoid to me. Or a case of Geno envy.
Posted by volfan on April 30, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Truth(?)setsufree
Geno envy??? Ha, that is the most absurd thing that I have read on the many, many postings to this site. You are either dreaming or have illusions of becoming a comedienne! We have Pat, you can have Jello Ornery Enema and try to be happy with your choice!
Posted by tngeoff on April 30, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mad_poly_uct.
Hey Bro'! I thought about you as I was rolling up the I-95. It was CRAZY driving! How you been doin'? I'll be rolling back through tomorrow on my way to Jersey for a one day seminar. Fresh Lobsta in the cooler for my wife and I to enjoy! $44.00 a pound (Lobsta' meat only) and worth every red cent!
pendav.
I think UConn had a great season. That doesn't help me like Geno. He's just one of those guys who is sooooo annoying. The team? Great team of solid players. The coach? Not so much.
Posted by mad_poly_uct on April 30, 2008 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff....Hey back at ya brother! Nothin' like "Lobsta'" from Baaston eh? Well as you roll back down I-95, give me a wave as you pass exit 54/ Cedar St.in Branford! I live short distance to the south.Have a safe trip my friend!
Posted by pendav on April 30, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey yngeoff
If you find Geno annoying that is your problem, not his.
Geno is a great coach & his players think the world of him.
Geno's accomplishments speak for themself.
1. Elected to the Men & Women Basketball Hall of Fame.
2. Current Women Coach of the Year.
3. Vice President & soon to be President of the Women's Basketball Coaches Association.
Posted by tngeoff on April 30, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mad_poly_uct.
Will do! Keep the faith.
pendav.
Gosh. Thank you for the info.
Posted by mad_poly_uct on April 30, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff....not dripping with too much sarcasm in your response to my Uconn bretheren,eh?! Made the mistake of sipping coffee while reading your post....it came out my nose, and now my desk is a mess!
Posted by tngeoff on April 30, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
mad_poly_uct.
Ooops! Sorry Bro'! As for the comment? Possibly a wee bit of sarcasm. Those Baaston folks must be rubbing off on me!
Posted by mad_poly_uct on April 30, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff....a wee bit?... uhhuh, uhhuh...lol...I-95 should be much drier tonight. Have a good trip & ENJOY THAT LOBSTA'....talk again soon I'm sure...
Posted by mad_poly_uct on April 30, 2008 at 8:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
tngeoff.....awww dude, I totally forgot, and it's probably too late by now, but as you pass through Old Saybrook(exits 69-66)you can also give a wave to our buddy Geno!!! Watch it though, the highways' pretty slick through there!...hey, I love the guy, but I can throw a few digs now and then too!!...gigglin'as I write...sometimes I think I'm my biggest fan...
Posted by fireman37343 on May 1, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey derekld69 before you make a statement that the case is closed with UCONN. Why don't you at least check the NCAA website. Read below. It does not say that they have closed the case
Despite recent media reports to the contrary, the NCAA has not ruled on a potential secondary violation involving University of Connecticut freshman Maya Moore. While the NCAA has worked cooperatively with the university, the institution has not yet filed the appropriate documents necessary for the Association to process this case. The university has acknowledged that a member of the coaching staff impermissibly arranged for Moore to be granted a tour of ESPN studios and that such an arrangement is not available to the general public.
Posted by mad_poly_uct on May 1, 2008 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
fireman37343....that is the quote from NCAA spokesperson Stacy Osborn from Mar.14. The so called "documents" were provided and NCAA ruled "secondary violation" did occur and Uconn "admonished" for said violation on March 19.That quote referred to the Maya Moore tour of ESPN.As I understand it, that's what's come out of the 30 plus pages released under the FOI request, and I believe(could be wrong on this)documents pertaining to FOI requests are only released after subject matter closed. Not to say there aren't other issues being investigated by NCAA,and documents involving such investigations have yet to be released under the FOI because investigations may not have concluded.
Posted by volfan on May 1, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive!
Posted by mad_poly_uct on May 1, 2008 at 10:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
volfan....yeah you can say that again.That 30 plus page document sure was a tangled web to read!:)
Posted by tngeoff on May 2, 2008 at 6:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mad_poly_uct.
Dang! There was a very strange slick covering at the Old Saybrook exit! Great call! Great humor as well! Stay well my friend. My journey up to Baastan was very successful and I will be returning every month for the next six months. I will