Posted by bcmelton on September 15, 2007 at 10:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm sick and tired of hearing the same old excuses from everyone associated with the program, players and coaches. I've been a defender of Fulmer, and I sincerely hoped that he would get things turned around. I don't think that today's game was a "must win" game, but the way UT looked screams that perhaps it's time for a major change in the coaching staff. The D has been trending downhill over the past several seasons, scheme wise and just fundamental execution. The O was very generic today. I fully understand that sometimes you have to take what the defense gives you, but UF doesn't seem to have any problems in putting freshmen at WR and throwing the ball down the field. There's no excuse for not being able to average even two yards per carry with the recruits UT brings in. If they don't know how to block or break a tackle, why were all of these other schools across the country trying to bring them in? On a positive note, aside from the Coker situation to start the season, the off the field distractions and bad behavior seem to have been remedied, but that hasn't translated to on field success, and in the end, that's what it's all about, don't give me that crap about turning out quality young men. UT was OWNED in every facet of that game today. It's sad to see how far they've fallen, comparing this team's effort and results to the '98 National Champs. The UT-UF game was on ESPN Classic yesterday. They blocked and tackled, made plays on offense, and came up with stops when they needed them on D. How many of you happened to read the SI article last week on Randy Shannon at Miami? That's how you coach and inspire. Miami may be down this year, perhaps for a couple, but they'll be as strong as ever in due time because of their coach. I hope whoever is coaching this team next year remembers the Gators running up the score. Paybacks are h*ll.

Posted by Ironcity on September 15, 2007 at 11:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We play a poor undisiplined defense that every team in the counrty is exploiting. I would prefer we sit in a cover 2 zone and start trying to punish people. Wait that would actually mean we would have to learn how to tackle and play physical football. That hasn't happened since 2001. What a shame. There has to be a D3 team somewhere that would want Chavis to be there head coach, please anyone!

Posted by VolunTampa on September 15, 2007 at 11:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One word for tonight's loss: Humiliating. It will be a long 365 days for those of us who root for the Vols from Florida. We were outcoached in the first half and outplayed in the second half. I've never criticized our coaching staff in this forum before, but at this point I believe that only a full scale house cleaning of our head coach and offensive and defensive coordinators will allow this program to reclaim a place among the nation's elite. Florida may have more talent, and certainly shouldn't have continued to play its starters so late in the game with such a sizeable lead, but there's still no excuse for such an embarrassing loss. Utterly humiliating...

Posted by arkyvol on September 15, 2007 at 11:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i just hope this is a low point. goodness knows, i wouldn't want this to become typical.

Posted by IdahoVol on September 15, 2007 at 11:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I always have and always will back the Vols. But the play tonight finally wore me down. Watching Fla, Ark, Ala and Ky, it looks like we are definitely a mid to bottom half of the conference team. My cheering will be done from home. No more 3 hour drives, $50 tickets, $100 hotel rooms or "dadgum popcorn" until changes are made to get our program turned around!

Posted by tenken on September 15, 2007 at 11:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know what these arent' excuses people. They were honest in these quotes. What the heck are they going to say? Tell me really what they are going to say. Give me an example. They didn't make excuses. They are mad at themselves. These kids are the ones using their bodies on the field. We just get to watch. We dont' really have any vested interest other then our emotions. They have their bodies out their on that field. There is no one more heartbroken then these kids who play for us every Saturday. Give them a break people. Quite basing your happiness on what these guys do on the field.

Posted by vol4good on September 15, 2007 at 11:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You just hit what it will take to rid TN of Fullmer. Money! If UT doesnt get money, change will be made. Fullmer is the Head of the snakes. He wont go quietly.

Posted by tenken on September 15, 2007 at 11:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am so glad you guys aren't coaches. We would be in serious trouble. You pick your tails up and dust em off and get on with the next game. Onto ASU. We will be fine. After Auburn embarrased us three years ago we won out in the SEC. We will be fine. Mark it down

Posted by vol4good on September 15, 2007 at 11:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So you are a father of a player Tenken? Last time I looked, no one is holding a gun to any players heads. Mabye we should. That should motivate them. Getting their tails kicked sure doesnt. Oh and by the way, if they continue to play like a bunch of girls. No one will "get to watch for long". We will find other things to do with our time and our money. Then the University will have to find another way to fund the ENTIRE FREAKING athletic dept. Frankly, tenken-- I havent heard many fans bashing the players. We are mostly upset with the coaches.

Posted by DennisVols on September 15, 2007 at 11:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you always got"
Tired of the excuse, "growing team". The Gators started 9 new players on defense and they seemed to be very prepared for UT's offense. Of course if you have seen our offense once since the '99 season began you know excatly what UT is going to do.
I watched 2 totally different coaches today. One was full of fire, he showed passion and desire through out the game, was angry when players did wrong, showed excitement when the plays were made.
On the other side was a coach who looked as though he had lost all his passion, even when upset it really did not show. I live in Atlanta and after last weeks lost to USC the sports pundits said the GA coach was too soft, had no fire. Well he has company now. I was ashamed of what I saw today. Where is the passion, pride, desire that this once great team had? Time for the university to make that tough decision,yes we know he played for UT and coached a National Championship team here. But when the tires go bald you change them or you wreck. Today I saw a really bad wreck.
Keeping it Real

Posted by eschroeder on September 15, 2007 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard a lot of talk about the O-lines offseason weight room work to get back to "Tennessee Footbal" but I'm not seeing it.

Can anyone tell me how much more this years line can bench and squat vs. last year? I think Fulmer's rhetoric has once again taken a back seat to results.

Posted by invisiblekid on September 15, 2007 at 11:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pride wasn't the only thing left on that field, so were their a**es. "Bring it," UT's senior defensive end said. "That's what goes through my mind. I think that's everybody's mindset." "He wants to run the ball and that's fine with me," Mitchell said of Tebow. "We thrive on hitting quarterbacks. If he wants to lower his shoulder, we'll lower ours too and bring the hat." Think it's about time for these guys on defense to keep quiet. Not talking would have helped conserve the oxygen they needed chasing Harvin around all day.

Posted by jcvet on September 15, 2007 at 11:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What pride? A bluechip redshirt junior d-tackle that has the tools to dominate but has never played til now and for a crappy defense ever had pride? The whole program suks.

Posted by jcvet on September 16, 2007 at midnight (Suggest removal)

Hey Tenken, You sound like Phat Phil's long lost inbred brother.

Posted by newtonrail on September 16, 2007 at 12:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dlskaggs as I said on another post, I've never been a great fan of Fulmer, past or present. I do have disagree with you(and some others) who decide how passionate a coach is by his sideline(or court side) demeanor. Not everyone is the same. Florida's ex coach Mr. Zook is one of the most demonstrative sideline coaches I've seen, but now he's building a team at Illinois. I guess Florida wanted someone more low key. Oh, you say he didn't win enough. YOu get the point.

Posted by skinalive on September 16, 2007 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There are 40 pragrams in college ball better than Tennessee right now.

If we fire Fulmer (which would be like Christmas) we would hire another conservative coach with no innovation. Vol fans are still doing the "wave" at games.

This program is so far behind the times it makes dinosaurs look futuristic.

Tennessee couldn't run the spread option offense if you gave them four years to practice it. We can't even hand the ball off. Arian Foster is a great kid but he doesn't scare anybody. Ainge is still trying to exorcise the '05 demons. The Chavis defense is in Randy Sanders regression mode on a turbo charge.

We lose 6 games this year if we're lucky.

Posted by bcmelton on September 16, 2007 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe being a member of the VASF, no matter the amount of your donation, "vests" our interest in the team. Much like any financial investment, you expect a certain amount of return on your dollar. We aren't getting much return on our dollars these days, especially the folks making donations with multiple zeroes. These young men have the PRIVILEGE of a free college education in return for playing a game of football. If they're good enough at this game, they won't need the free education they're receiving because they'll be making millions, so forgive me if I'm a little peeved over the effort and execution put forth. As for the coaching staff, they are handsomely rewarded financially as well, it's about time they earn it.

Posted by MANVOL on September 16, 2007 at 12:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Tenken' well i am a coach and it is up to the coach to put the kids in a position to succeed and win and this coacking staff is not benifiting the kids nor the fans that pay for everyting at the university. Bought a ticket lately? The kids as you call them come to this university to play for a winning program if the winning stops so goes the talent. Trust me i've been here when we had little talent and winning 6 and 7 games a year was the norm. We are sliding or have slid in that direction. Ask the kids you want to play for a winning program or keep things as they are' they would proably help Phil pack his boxes. Remember this; how good of a coach would Phil be if Sterner did'nt fumble the ball in 98.!!!! Phil retire with dignity you can keep your pride dont be run off like Majors!

Posted by chrisw2967 on September 16, 2007 at 12:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"It's a pride check for us all," UT defensive coordinator John Chavis said. "I know it is for me

well its pride check for Chavis now , what was it after the Cal game? It should be check out time for him now and Fulmer said its time to go back to basics , he is so full of S#$% , It gets old after every lost its either time to go back to basics or all you can eat buffet. I have never liked Fulmer and never will , hes not even an average coach. Put him at another school and he doesnt win 3 football games. Its time for him to pack his fridge and move on. anybody need tickets ?

Posted by skinalive on September 16, 2007 at 1:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This just in:

Urban Meyer's lost shoe has been found.......stuck up Phil Fulmer's a$$.

Posted by copan07 on September 16, 2007 at 1:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to know how injured is Erik Ainge?(finger) The announcer said too little has been made about his injury. What scares me even more is the future...Crompton did not look good at all compared to the Gators second string QB.

Posted by Hunter on September 16, 2007 at 1:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"We're in no way a polished team." Ya think, Chief? He must think we're all idiots that follow the Vols. It's plain to see that this defense is not "polished" or even functional. I have NEVER been on the "Fire Fulmer" bandwagon (highest winning % among coaches with 10 years experience - there are more stipulations to that stat every year) but please tell me where the bandwagon's next stop is so that I can get on. It's time for an overhaul on Rocky Top. Bring in Greg Schiano from Rutgers and Tenuta fom GA Tech and let's get back into the top half of the SEC for starters!

Posted by MANVOL on September 16, 2007 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

CRVol; Johnny is proabaly somewhere drunk.

Posted by newtonrail on September 16, 2007 at 1:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MANVOL, Coach Majors lives in Knoxville now, and you couldn't hold his jock strap. Been around him several times recently, and Diet Coke or Pepsi is all he drinks. Anonymous rumors are fun when they aren't about you, aren't they? @&& H**e.

Posted by pamjeffnelson on September 16, 2007 at 2:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Look out below. This team will be lucky to win 5 games this season (Southern Miss., Arky State, Miss. State,Louisiana Lafayette,Vanderbilt) ...This is one of the top 5 jobs in the country and we are not playing the game a whole lot different than we did in 1991...We have the worst special teams in the SEC and the defense could not stop Carson Newman (No offense,Eagles fans)...Who will be our next coach ? When will the hammer fall ?

Posted by mk_china on September 16, 2007 at 2:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok. I am a long time reader but a first time responder. I went to my first Vols game in '68; when the teams entered from the sides. I have been giving to VASF for 25 years and I have flown from overseas to watch the Vols play.

I too was upset at the way Majors was dismissed or whatever word you want to insert. I felt that Majors was too conservative in play calling/selection to beat the majority of teams we were facing. The same can now be said of Fulmer. I want a better return on investment (ROI) and in my opinion, Fulmer is not getting it done. However, this time when we replace the head coach, lets look coast to coast and not within Knox county.

Posted by BluetickBlues on September 16, 2007 at 2:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How disgusting is it to watch Foster fumble away any chance at victory in the swamp, just like he did against Penn State? Ainge's legacy is now set at UT. Injury prone, underachiever, who never won the big game. Then again maybe its not their fault. Both players were very good their freshman years but have declined in each year under the tutelage of the Vols coaching staff. Someone tell Eric Berry to transfer so our coaches dont ruin him. He is truly something special and one of the few reasons to continue to watch games this year.

Posted by formerfan on September 16, 2007 at 2:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fla vs W. Ky 49-3
Fla vs Troy 59-31
Fla vs UT 59-20

So much for pride...

Posted by MANVOL on September 16, 2007 at 2:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

newtonrail, no need for name calling thats good hear. I guess if you live long enuff everyone can clean up their act. Being a teenager around the team back then lets say it wasnt a big secret of his bevarge of choice. Not spreading rumors here if you lived in Knox back when. If he hadnt alinated himself with his abusive personality he may have coached a few more years. Maybe he can help clear house on the hill.

Posted by nicksjuzunk on September 16, 2007 at 2:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never been on a "fire fulmer" bandwagon and I don't guess I am now. But... I have heard others say for some time that TN has dropped off when compared to other programs. I didn't listen. The 5-6 year, everyone has a year like that every decade or so... I thought that was ours. Losing to Florida... we did that with Peyton too so I still wasn't too concerned. Now after tonight... I see Kentucky beats Louisville, Alabama beats a good Arkansas team, South Carolina is stinking 17 in the polls, and let's not even talk about LSU who used to be a joke. I fear that we have become an average SEC team. I am not writing off the rest of the year but it will be a dog fight to get those wins!

Posted by hehunt69 on September 16, 2007 at 5:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

For anyone who has forgotten what Johnny Majors did for the UT football program..read the Vol Historian Blog "When Johnny Majors Came Marching Home" ( see Go Vols Home Page). He did deserve much better treatment by Dickey and Fulmer. Majors has moved and so should Fulmer!

Posted by footballfan on September 16, 2007 at 5:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I, too, am glad that others out there wish to kick fatso to the curb, 'firefulmer'. I imagine that we could have some fun making fun of how pitiful it is watching this abysmal excuse for a coach manage a game. I hate it so much for the team but this is more than just a coaching problem now. When Fulmer is gone, the new coach will be "one of the family". That family being the morons that have run the team into the ground. The losing will continue until the athletic department gets a redressing in management from the top all the way to the bottom. Many, many fans put money in the pockets of those whose job it is to produce competitive sports teams. The major problem with this is simple economics and politics. For the confused let me break it down a little. It is true the fans contribute a pretty nice chunk of money into the school. But, from a personal standpoint, we are the faceless contributors that do not have to be dealt with in the meeting rooms. Therefore, as long as we continue to pour money in, no one cares how we feel. That is the economical aspect of this issue. Politically speaking, those in power want to stay in power. That is a basic rule of politics, not a fascinating discovery. The only way to exact our will on these money and power moguls is to do everything we can to hit them where it hurts. Take away what monetary contribution we provide for them. The loss of money will inevitably bring about a loss of power. Then the winds of change can blow and success can return to our beloved Rocky Top. There it is. This opinion has been expressed fervently by many others already. I just wanted to throw my elementary explanation into the mix. I am going to post this on a few other articles to try and drive the point home. I suggest those with similar sentiments do the same.
Go Vols.

Posted by tenecc on September 16, 2007 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am 74 years old and would like to see, before I exit this mortal life, Tenessee football as it was in the 1950's. I feel like the powers that be in Tennessee Football are a much younger age and there is no urgency to fix the problem.
I have been retired for nine years, the same as Tennessee Football!!!

Posted by tlc429 on September 16, 2007 at 6:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Dear chrisw2967,
Thanks for the laugh so early in the morning. Don't worry, after all my laughing, I agree with you 100%. My brother, thinks we (UT) takes good players and makes them bad players. Do you need an example? I'll give you one on offense and one on defense. 1) Ainge 2) Hefney. Based on Ainge's play as a true freshman, he should be 20-30 for 300+ yards a game. If not, our rushing yards should be be in the upper 200's. Oh, he's hurt? Just wait and see? I loved Heath Schuler but I remember when he faded to black in the NFL. Welcome back to TN Heath! No offense intended. Anybody remember Hefney as a true freshman? How many times did he get burned yesterday? How many INT's did we have? And how many was Hefney involved in? All I've read thus far is "I wasn't on the fire Phil bandwagon before but..." Hell, I'm DRIVING the wagon!!!!! Who needs a lift? I want to clean house from top to bottom. I'd like to keep Trooper but I doubt he would fit into another coach's scheme. He's the only coach we've had in the past 5 years who's earned his salary. Chavis is played out and although I cheered when Majors was overthrown, I'll cheer when Fulmer is sent packing too. And don't try to sell me any of that "Majors Era" crap. I'm 46yrs old and I remember losing EVERY home opener and sitting in traffic on the strip afterwards yelling "SEASON TICKETS...CHEAP"!!!

Posted by volfaninchattanooga on September 16, 2007 at 6:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Memo to Fulmer: Perhaps you should have held back some of that $1 million you and wife Vicky so graciously gave the university and instead spent it on a special teams coach."
Mark Wiedmer from the Times Free Press in Chattanooga. 1. Press the kicking game for here is where the breaks are made. How bad does it have to get?

Posted by Vol737 on September 16, 2007 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This has gone on long enough. Enough excuses from the coaching staff. Enough of "...we'll just have to get back and look at the film and work like heck to get back to playing Tenn. football...". I won't even watch the Fulmer Show today b/c I'll vomit when I hear him say it again!! Enough of hiring your buddies to the coaching staff instead of going out and getting the best in the business - If Phil were a CEO in any other business, he would have been gone a long time ago for a stunt like that! Enough of Florida laying it out in plain view on how to coach, how to run a program, how to turn your playmakers loose and let them play and Fulmer goes 180 degrees in the opposite direction. Oh yeah, play it close to the vest, because that's what really works, right Phil???!!

We should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, get manhandled like that by ANYONE with the $$$$ and resources at this program. We're staring a .500 season in the face and the bluehair Trustees had better get a gameplan together. A half empty Neyland Stadium on Saturdays might get the point across. This program is delusional if they think UT is not getting ready to be an annual doormat for UF, BAMA, UGA, and South Carolina if Fulmer and his brand of football remain in place. Fulmer keeps getting raises and ticket prices keep going up. Why?

Posted by bruteforce7 on September 16, 2007 at 7:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The answer is JEFF FISHER people. I'm telling you the guy is great at getting average players (blue chippers)to play like all stars! He out coaches and pulls things out of that hat when you least expect it. I know we have to have more talent than whats being put on the field. It's time for a BIG change. Hell I'd settle for Bill Cower. Goodbye Phil its been real.

Posted by Vol737 on September 16, 2007 at 7:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bruteforce7,

Let's put Gruden, Spurrier, and Chow on that short list too. Throw the $$$$ on the table and see who wants it more. Back in '88 we started 0-6 and everyone wanted Majors gone. There was a coach at Duke that was winning that made it very clear he wanted the job. We did nothing. Today he coaches at South Carolina and he pretty much owned UT through his tenure at Florida. Let's not make the same mistake again. I think we should at least ask him if he would like to come home to East Tennessee.

Posted by yeavols on September 16, 2007 at 7:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Look at the numbers as of late..like in the last 10 years. I too for 10 years have said that Fulmer will get it turned around and we'll be back on top. I have now opened my eyes. This is the norm now: Mediocracy, fumbles, dropped passes, questionable plays, a passive Neyland stadium, and a loss of respect. This cannot contiue. Coaches come and go in this business. There is nothing wrong with a coaching change. Coaches become stale when they find a comfort zone and Fulmer has found his comfort zone-UT. We are falling behind. Everyone now wants to be champions and play for younger more innovative coaches which is why Florida is raking in the talent. We should start recruiting in Florida and scoop up all the players the Gators can't recruit. At any rate, LET"S START SHOPPING FOR A COACH and an entire coaching change. JEFF FISHER? CHRIS PETERSEN? ANYONE ELSE?

Posted by imnotwithphil on September 16, 2007 at 7:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Folks - there's only one reason that Foolmore is our head coach - that that's because we have supported him. We buy the tickets, the merchandise, the pay for view games... we're the source of Phil's $2 million. If you want to see change at the top, take action by (1) not going to the games (2) not buying TN merchandise (3) canceling your donation to the University and (4) writing Hamilton a letter/email requesting a head coaching change. This coaching change is in our hands - we have the power to make it happen... we just need to find the courage to withhold our support of the program until change does happen.

Posted by bruteforce7 on September 16, 2007 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ok they'll call it 3rd and about an inch, vols line up in the power I formation. Ainge under center hands off to Foster and O my he has been stone walled at the line of scrimage, maybe lost a few on the play! This will be what it sounds like when we play Bama, SC, and Arkansa. MARK MY WORDS! You can't when ballgames with no run at all. My goodness work on the running game

Posted by UpstateSCVol on September 16, 2007 at 8:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Stupidity - "To do the same thing over and over and expect different results" At this point I think I'm the stupid one! I keep justifying all of the prior poor performance and lack of execution on youth and experience but honestly thought we still had a chance against Florida. I keep thinking that Fulmer will get things turned around and that's obviously not the case either but I continue thinking that he will. I have always supported UT's coaching staff (other than Randy Sanders), and like a lot of us felt that this year would bring some real excitement. I'm not throwing Fulmer under the bus right now but how can he allow OUR Volunteers to be utterly humiliated like this? I have always worn my orange with pride but right now it’s very hard when you get 59 hung on you. For the sake of all of us get creative, try something new, and stop being so darn predictable.

Posted by luckymacy on September 16, 2007 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The coaching staff must go. Our offensive and defensive lines have been so lame for so long that if it wasn't for T Martin's timely scrambling ability and a lucky Arkansas fumble there would really never have been a bright spot in the Fulmer era. Fulmer is supposed to be a line coach at the core and the lack of good line play tells me all I need to know about his real coaching abilities, year in and year out. Amazingly many of the linemen go on to do well in the pros but Fulmer and company find a way to make them appear average at best on Saturdays.

Ainge reminds me of a poor mans Peyton. We didn't win the big games with him either. Bring back the "athletic" QB, like Florida has done with Tebow, who can run his way out of the trouble that the lame game-time coaching Fulmer and staff put the players in all too frequently.

Time to wipe the slate clean and really start over. I feel like I'm watching a coaching staff who are WAAAAYYYY past their prime. Why can Florida reload with innovative coaches about as well as they reload with top player talent and we can't? Lord knows we fork out the coaching salary $$$$$.

Posted by gatavol on September 16, 2007 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

gata stands for Get After Their @ss, We don't have that ability
I haven't put on a uniform in 25 years and probably couldn't run to the frig without passing out, but I bet I could throw the football against this defence with my eyes closed. And running the ball, why run when you could walk? I'm not saying Field Goal Phil needs to go just yet but John Chavis...He should have been gone a decade ago. He has riden the coat tails of top quality young players long enough.

Posted by Buckley on September 16, 2007 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Enough is enough. I have been a supporter of Fulmer, but now it is time for a change. He is still coaching not to lose. Their defense had our other than basis plays, also them most of the time, covered. Like our reverse. We know their reverse is coming and our coaches don't have the correct alignment called.
We can all arm chair coach, but it is evident the program needs a new leader.

Posted by mdvol on September 16, 2007 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When Florida was tired of mediocrity they fired Ron Zook. Good call. Two years later they we're national champions.

Posted by tennisvol on September 16, 2007 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Special teams have been a problem for years. I think the head coach should take over these teams and earn of the millions he is making.

Posted by Mr_Bandman on September 16, 2007 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I posted this same comment on another page, but it seems appropriate.....I have been a Fulmer apologist for years....but it is hard to argue with anything said here today....Tennessee desperately needs a change of philosophy....it pains me to say this, because I was as angry as anyone when he said it, but Steve Spurrier was right all those years ago when, after a Florida blowout over UT, he quipped, "Players play how they're coached"....it is time for Tennessee to start putting together a package to buy out Fulmer's contract....cut bait and look for a new spot to cast.

Posted by steve22043 on September 16, 2007 at 8:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Please promote Trooper to head coach. The players love him. I've been a Fulmer defender over the years, but his success has gone the opposite way as he has let himself get further out of shape. The worst part of the season is hopefully behind us--I still think it's possible we could win out. But thinking past this season and changes that need to be made to return us to elite status--how can coaches inspire young people to be good athletes when you are letting you're own body go to pot?

Posted by gillblog on September 16, 2007 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

When he was in college, folks in NC used to say; "who's the only person who can keep Michael Jordan from scoring 40 pts a game? Dean Smith."
Coaching can and does make a huge difference in game performance. Watching UT now reminds me of Bill Battle days; you know there are talented players on the field, they just aren't performing. We all know how UT eventually fixed that problem. BTW, what position does Trooper Taylor coach now? How are his players performing lately? I don't understand the affection some people have for Taylor as a coach.

Posted by k0605 on September 16, 2007 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've always liked Fulmer, but after the last two+ years think it's time for a change in the coaching staff. We need to install the spread next year. Crompton can run that. Hire Florida's defensive coach.

Posted by imnotwithphil on September 16, 2007 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hehunt69 - I agree - the post on Majors was a good one... we as fans should be ashamed at how Johnny was treated back in '92. We do have one shot a redemption... the program could FIRE FOOLMORE in mid season, and bring Johnny back as the interim head coach while we search for a replacement. The position would be symbolic, but it would be a classy way for the program to properly say "thanks" and "goodbye" to a Tennessee football legend...

Posted by landmair on September 16, 2007 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems to be business as usual, our coaching staff either can't get our team ready for a big game or doesn't have the talent to get ready for a big game. This staff continually seems to be going downhill. The defense runs around like a pop warner team, like a group of individuals who can't tackle or maintain a game plan. It looks like they just react to any given play without any preparation, like they were just thrown on the field and told to go make a play, by yourself. I attended the game in FL and the offense was not much better. We stopped trying to run the ball way too soon, as always, even though almost without fail the rushing leader wins this game, and our guys just don't make the big plays when needed. I have to say it is time to clean house and stop listening to excuses. Bring in a head coach who has no ties to the old one and let him set up a coaching staff that will not waste the talent that has come through our locker room the last ten years.

Posted by grvol on September 16, 2007 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fulmer should have been fired during the game and removed from the GD stadium by the THP. Where are all the Fulmer lovers today? yawn They make me sick.

Posted by DirtyHarry on September 16, 2007 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

God, I hate to have to see footage of this one on ESPN...what a joke! Sure Florida is good, but 59 points?!!! Let's see, that's more than West. Kentuck allowed and as much as Troy gave up? I'm sick of excuses as are almost all Vol fans. As much money as the program gets and with their ability to recruit and we can't even be competetive with Florida? I mean, a freakin' 99-yard drive? Where is the defense? hell, Saddam's army put up more of one...I don't think Uf ran up the score. I think our defense is that bad. If the UT athletic department doesn't smell the coffee after this stinker then they never will. Fulmer has to go...

Posted by grvol on September 16, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Promote Trooper? Everyone on this staff from Fulmer down to the waterboys needs to go! We need a competent head coach not a cheerleader running the same plays. CLEAN HOUSE!

Posted by DSaVol on September 16, 2007 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If everybody has so much "pride" then why the hell did they allow this beating? And more importantly why the hell have they allowed things to get to this point over the last 6 years? One of the biggest problems in this program the last number of years is everybody's willingness to talk too damned much! "We are Tennessee...we do this ...we don't allow that...." BULLSHI*!!! It's been happening annually for too damned many years and NOBODY takes ANY REAL responsibility and it damned sure hasn't been fixed! Oh "we gotta get back to basics", and "we gotta coach better and play better..." Well duh dumba$$e$!!! The TRUTH is THIS TEAM has been through spring practice, off-season conditioning, voluntary summer workouts, four weeks of camp, and three weeks of games AND STLL CAN'T RUN A PASS PLAY MORE THAN 10 YARDS DOWNFIELD, STLL CAN'T GAIN REASONABLE YARDAGE ON A RUN, STILL CAN'T TACKLE ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T RUN STRAIGHT INTO THEM, STILL CAN'T COVER A DAMNED KICK, ETC ETC....but we CAN STILL TALK ABOUT IT!!! The entire planet know that a season is 12 games and yes teams do progress during the playing of that season BUT when you have two top 10 tens in the first 3 weeks you better make damned sure your firing on all cylinders from the start! Thanks "coaches"! FACT is very damned few in this program have ANY pride about what they're doing and it starts with that fat a$$ at the top who thinks those that have made him very rich are just a bunch of morons who know nothing. He and his "staff" are only cashing checks and maintaining their know-it-all arrogance and 1970's game plans. Players are obviously undisciplined, unaccountable, and only interested in depositing their weekly cash and trying to show something individually that will get them a contract. 2005 was supposed to be a fluke. Well, guess what, it's back to the future time in 2007. Nothing's changed. The fat a$$ is still here and so are the same problems. But they all are filled with pride. Too bad they can't even spell the word!

Posted by waterskier3 on September 16, 2007 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

the best post i read was that fla had a lot of new talent on the field and they were in position and made plays but at UT we say young players only hurt us....... why can other teams freshman make such a diff??????? COACHES.... HOPEFULLY CHAVIS QUITS JUST LIKE SANDERS DID TWO YEARS AGO....

CAN ANYONE SAY MOVING VAN

Posted by grvol on September 16, 2007 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Trooper Taylor: ear rings, shirt tail out, hat on backwards... someone should slap it off his head and order him to put it on right. Won't be Fulmer.

Posted by TNvolunteer on September 16, 2007 at 9:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am sick and tired of watching our defense make excuses for not tackling or getting beat right out of the stadium...I seen oh so many times yesterday a Tennessee defender ( John Hefney mostly ) take a dive and hit someone but not wrap up and they gets 10 more yards...How are they teaching these boys to tackle over there...How many times on a 3rd and long did we just sit back and play zone and only rush 3 or maybe 4??? I dont understand why a top recruit would want to come here..I really dont...Who wants to play for Fulmer and lose....Boys i hate to say but Florida isnt that great...I am not taking anything away from them, but or defense is horrible....Cant tackle, cant cover anyone, cant put pressure on the QB, and WHY do we punt the ball to anyone...Kick the F****** ball away from the returner or out of bounds....Think Fulmer would have learned that by now.

Posted by volsrock54 on September 16, 2007 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bye Phil. Time to take your fat ass and your moronic cronies down the road.

Posted by VERSE13 on September 16, 2007 at 9:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They need to bring in a whole new coaching staff. There is nothing more frustrating then knowing the team needs nine yard for a first down and seeing a two yard pass or a freaking run on third down. College football about taking shots down field and taking chances. Fulmer plays safe football. So for the third straight year in a row I have to hear my freakin Gator friends. Its time for a change. P.S. Ainge is over hyped or he is simply being restricted by the plays that are called.

Posted by TNvolunteer on September 16, 2007 at 10:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fire them all...I rent a couple of UHAULS...Anyone wanna help throws these chumps outta town?

Basketball season is right around the corner boys...lets go watch a real coach with heart and guts...And the team is pretty good too!

Posted by tnorthern on September 16, 2007 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The offense stinks also. It's not just the defensive side of the ball. The word is impotent because the O couldn't punch the ball in. The defense on the other hand is promiscuous.

Posted by TNvolunteer on September 16, 2007 at 10:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey guys...lets go over and coach the team....Pay me half what they pay Fulmer and you'll see a big difference...None of this clap my hands and smile when we turn the ball over or give up a punt or kick return...I would probably get kicked out the game for gettin on a ref for missing an obvious pass-inter. call...HMMM...We never see Phil get mad about something like that!!

I'd be the Bobby Cox of College Football!!

Posted by steve22043 on September 16, 2007 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My post regarding Trooper was admitedly based on hearsay. But I put a lot on how much respect the players have for their coach. I did become connected to the OU program after TN and thought that Switzer's success was based largely on the respect the players had for him. As a person I think Fulmer is a better person, but the humility he preaches doesn't carry over to his coaching. He's been good at recruiting but the feedback I get is his players consider him unlikeable from numerous standpoints.

Posted by BainxGriffith on September 16, 2007 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RockyTop University:
Fear Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas, South Carolina,
Kentucky and Vanderbilt.
Some of them [most of them] are going to kick your ass!

Posted by grvol on September 16, 2007 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Need to start figuring out how to come up with the millions to pay off the Phat a$$ thru 2012. Hamilton should be held responsible for this. I say look at the fine print of the contracts, yesterday had to breech something. If worse comes to worse I say let the Phat a$$ go and he can sue.

Posted by jlange on September 16, 2007 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've been in CPF's corner because I know he's a good man and thought he's a solid coach. But after watching them just flat out quit in 3 of the last 4 games, I have nothing positive left to say. Their response to adversity is abysmal.

Posted by madcow26 on September 16, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pathetic. you're a nice guy phil. i am going to miss you.

Posted by surlyguy on September 16, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

2 games against ranked teams running "the spread" result in two beatdowns, exacerbated by two fumbles run back for touchdowns and two kicks run back for touchdowns. 3 of last 4 games Vols have had fumbles returned for TD's.

Vols appear to have no clue how to defend a talented spread offense, casting doubt on future success as more teams adopt the spread. Apparently, even App State's longtime coach adopted the spread a few years ago after many years of power I football.

Wonder if George O'Leary has ideas how to slow down the spread offense?

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jackson benched, freshman Wright in

Kyle Jackson missed a tackle. Then he lost some playing time.

Jackson, Florida's senior strong safety, missed a tackle on Vols receiver Lucas Taylor that allowed Tennessee to convert a key third-and-12 in the first quarter. Then, Tennessee's Josh Briscoe caught a 16-yard pass on the next play. That's when freshman Major Wright was inserted for Jackson. Jackson never returned.

This is what happens at florida when you dont make plays. AT tennessee when this happens you get a pat on the back and told its ok. Its time for a change. I have stopped drinking the ORANGE KOOLAID!

Posted by hstamps on September 16, 2007 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

A sorry excuse for Tenn. football.There comes a time for everything in life to change.It is now a time for change.We need it bad. We have had the SOS (same old S (alternative word crap). for the last few years and it continues.What else can you say.Enough is Enough.

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — The knock on the Florida Gators entering Saturday was that they hadn't been tested this year.

The argument can still be made.
From the Tennessean!
What does that say about your program! Sad day in big orange country!

Posted by Plasticman on September 16, 2007 at 11:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THe time has come to make a change. THe spread offense at Fl is what the wishbone was to AL in the 60's-70's. Either our offense does not execute or the Def. Coordinator for FL knows our signals. In the 4 games we have played against him (1 at Notre Dame), we have averaged 37 yards rushing. Our defense does not wrap up and can't tackle. Our punter outkicks his coverage by booming low line 50 yard punts with no hang time, our WR's have NO SPEED to go deep. Our DB's (particulary safety) are typically nowhere to be found on deep passes. We're going 6-6 this year if we're lucky!

Posted by Colliervol on September 16, 2007 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

After seeing that mess yesterday, I agree with plasticman. If we play like that (and I see no reason to believe we won't), I can see 5 or 6 losses easily. I apologize in advance for the length of this post but I've had too much time since the 4th qtr yesterday to think about it. I've maintained (and still maintain) that Phil Fulmer earned the right and some time to turn this program around. A program that we all know has been in decline since 2000. No change in my position there. As far as I'm concerned, it is now painfully apparent that the program is nowhere near a turnaround and is in worse shape in many ways than it was in 2005 (if that's possible). Yesterday was a disaster of epic proportions and, as I told my wife in the 4th quarter, we witnessed the event that will start the ball rolling toward a change at UT. And no amount of good will and friendship with the Board of Trustees is going to stop it. Read Geoff Calkins commentary in the Memphis Commercial Appeal this morning. He pretty well sums up the situation. And Ron Higgins also. He said that the "old ways" won't work anymore in the SEC and Tennessee has basically been left behind. Many of us have been trying to give Phil the benefit of the doubt but, honestly, I can't see how anybody can do that any longer. (Continued on the next post)

Posted by yeavols on September 16, 2007 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

One last thing: Someone better be doing something fast. The longer we wait, the longer it will take to get recruiting up and the players we do have will only be wasted. I have a plan. DO YOU? I will support our players, but I can no longer support our coaches. For years I have watched and waited and wondered. I am not doing it anymore. It's time for a change. Let's get some new younger blood in our program. I will no longer support this administration until they dump their conservative ways and GET WITH THE PROGRAM! Don't bother calling me and asking for a donation. I won't be purchasing anymore Orange products and I won't be attending any games. The last bowl games I have attended, Peach against CLEMSON and MARYLAND was a total disaster. I AM SICK OF IT!

Posted by DSaVol on September 16, 2007 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MEMO TO CUTCLIFFE: Urban Meyer's offense played TWO games yesterday - AND RACKED UP 103 PTS AGAINST SUPPOSEDLY BIG TIME TEAMS!! FL 59 + UTAH 44! Get a clue or better yet - GET THE HELL OUT!!

Posted by Wilhelm16 on September 16, 2007 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

FIRE JOHN CHAVIS!!!!! How hard is it to tackle? teach your players to wrap up and take down. Hefney, all-american my ass. stop trying to shoulder some one and wrap them up. Jaro Parrish how bout you do something to earn your scholarship, I'll gladly take your place on the team if all you want to do is go out there and wear the jersey. coach chavis needs to hit the bricks. two years ago we finally got rid of sanders after years of bad offense it is johnny boy's turn. with the exception of the 2005 season the defense has been terrible. No one tackles. go ahead keep making every player on every team look like Jim freakin Thorpe.

Posted by Colliervol on September 16, 2007 at noon (Suggest removal)

An open note to Mike Hamilton and the Board (and keep in mind that I'm probably one of the more patient fans):

Things I've grown weary of:
1) I'm tired of it being obvious that we cannot compete with the upper echelon of teams in the conference and in the nation.
2) I'm tired of seeing special teams continually give up touchdowns and field position on every kick.
3) I'm tired of a defense that can't tackle me or get any semblance of a pass rush.
4) I'm tired of this "dink and dunk" passing offense. 5 yard hitches and then hope the receiver breaks away.
5) I'm tired of an O-line that couldn't block me and a D-line that gets whipped by even mediocre offensive lines. I never heard a D-lineman get his name called on a tackle yesterday.
6) I'm tired of punters who won't follow orders and kick the ball out of bounds. The paper reported this morning that Colquitt was under orders to kick that first punt out of bounds and what happened?
7) I'm tired of not being excited like I used to be. Most of us have tried to be patient but this is it.
8) I'm just tired of defending Fulmer and this program. He has had the chance to turn it around and it just isn't happening. I'm done.

Mike, it's now in the hands of you and the Board. You made the right decision on Bruce Pearl but what you do now will determine how your tenure as AD is viewed. We just can't deal with it any longer. It's over.

Posted by Colliervol on September 16, 2007 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And finally, I don't see it getting any better in the next 2 or 3 years with the players we have now. If we didn't get Florida yesterday (with all their young players), we aren't going to. I'm just glad we aren't playing LSU. Prediction: Arkansas will run for 500 yards when we play them. Did anybody see McFadden last night? He is unbelievable. And I'm pretty sure that Kentucky will have 1000 yards of total offense when we play them. I'm certainly looking forward to those games. (And I didn't even get to South Carolina, Georgia or Alabama.)

Posted by IPOrange on September 16, 2007 at 12:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

In looking at the rest of the schedule, I see only 1 game as a sure win (Louisiana-Lafayette), and I'm not 100% sure of that one. Seriously, look at the schedule. Every single game could be a trial of fire. We have tremendous talent on this team, so what is the problem? If the talent is there, that leaves the coaching as the weakness. Players should seek outside tutoring, because they aren't getting it from our staff.

Posted by rpoll1095 on September 16, 2007 at 12:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well.....I see everyone is in the same frame of minde today as me. How could it be otherwise? I am wondering if we can establish a new bowl game......"Bottom of the Barrel Bowl" Tennesee v. Notre Dame. Looks to me like it would be pretty competitive! And for those of us looking for a coaching change, we have to pray they don't decide to bring in Charlie Weiss! What a disgrace, VOLS!!!!

Posted by stanwilliams5 on September 16, 2007 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tenecc...I too am 74 years old, and I also enjoyed Tennessee football in the 1950's. Obviously to most of us ouside the Athletic Department, it is now half a century later and we are still playing 1950's football; it reminds me of that old adage, "We are going to do this until we get right if it takes a 100 years". Just don't depart your mortal yet for as all things come back around, when football comes back around, we will already be there. Trying to get it right...

Posted by gillblog on September 16, 2007 at 12:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

rpoll: a wise word of caution from you about coaching changes..... don't be dazzeled by labels like 'guru' and 'great offensive mind' that the media tosses around like coffee mugs for assistants coaches both college and pro. Right now ND is asking itself, "we gave up Ty Willingham for THIS!!?" UT needs to look for a guy with proven performance in a head coaching role. We don't need to be experimenting with up-and-coming or extremely promising 2nd level coaches.

Posted by TazDaVolFan on September 16, 2007 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not into coach bashing but it's just time for a change. Fulmer has had his day. Now it's time for Mike Hamilton to back up his statement about hiring coaches (ala Bruce Pearl) that can compete for championships. We will see a drop in attendance, maybe that will generate the changes needed. We need a coach with a new vision for our football team. When is enough really enough?

Posted by utnutt on September 16, 2007 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IT IS CLEAR THAT WE DONT HAVE THE TALENT THAT FLORIDA HAS. THIS IS FULMERS STRENGTH (RECRUITING). WHAT REALY LOOKED BAD WAS THE LAST SERIES WHEN FLORIDA PUT THEIR 2ND STRING IN AND THEY MOVED THE BALL ON US EASILY. THEY COULD HAVE BEATEN US WITH THEIR 2ND STRING. THIS IS WHAT FULMER AND HIS GREAT RECRUITING AND COACHING SKILLS HAVE GOTTEN US. WE ARE A FAIR FOOTBALL TEAM IN A CONFRENCE WHERE FAIR TEAMS LIVE ON THE BOTTOM.IT IS TIME FOR UT TO START LOOKING FOR A COACH AND PREPARE FOR FIRING AND REPLACING FULMER AT THE END OF THE SEASON. IT IS THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO FOR THE UNIVERSITY THE PLAYERS AND THE FANS. FIRE FULMER AND CREW REPLACING THEM ALL WITH A COACH THAT CAN GET THE JOB DONE. SPURRIER IS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND WHO ELSE IS OUT THIER. LETS START LOOKING NOW.

Posted by snowvol on September 16, 2007 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When Florida kept looking to score late in the 4th, I could only watch with envy wishing that was our firey, passionate coach, our multi-faceted offense that was doing the burying. With those last two Florida scores, that was Urban Meyer telling Fulmer "I'm the King, Phil...get used to it...I just stuck my crown up you and your team's collective rear ends and you couldn't do anything about it..." My friends, make no mistake: Urban Meyer was going out of his way, and rightfully so, in marking his turf in that 4th quarter. He not only was sending a bold, painful message to Fulmer and UT, he was telling the entire SEC, "here's what we do...think you can stop us?" We can't...not with these coaches. We have plenty of talent, though not quite as much as Florida right now, but our coaching staff is not putting them in a position to show what they can do. And one other note: Guys like Meyer, Bob Stoops and Pete Carroll recruit amazing talent to play...as freshmen. Spurrier is no different. Their attitude is "we recruited these kids to play..to help us flatten opponents..they don't do us any good sitting on the bench." For all the garbage from our coaches about how young we are, take a peek at the age of the Gators players who kicked our behinds yesterday: Sophomores and Freshmen. Think Percy Harvin knew that only too well when he dropped UT from his recruiting list several years ago? You bet he did.

Posted by mdvol on September 16, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Talk about stats and humiliation all you want but for Hamilton it's real simple. If you can't beat Florida you can't win the SEC East. If you cant win the East you can't play for the SEC Championship. If you don't win the SEC you can't play for the national championship. Beating Florida is a must. The current coaching staff can't get it done.

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 1:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Where can i get A shirt to show my support of the coach? MABIE FIREFULMER.COM? Is this a site? Mabie it should be.

Posted by gotvols on September 16, 2007 at 1:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The sad but honest truth is that Fulmer gets paid way too much money to be down every three out of four years. The idea of paying a coach that much money is that he can keep the talent up and maybe have a down year once every four years where he only looses 3 to 4 games. It is a true embarassment for this to continue. I feel for the kids that have gone to UT to be on a winning program. UT got some of the most desired recruits coming in. May no bones about it though, these young MEN should be held accountable for their actions (i.e. running their mouths before the game). I get sick of hearing people put up for them. If they were out working at the same age, they would not get cut any slack for running their mouths. It is time to walk the walk. South Carolina, Kentucky, and Georgia are not going to feel sorry for us. We will likely loose at least four games this year and probably 5. What a shame.

Posted by gotvols on September 16, 2007 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It appears that our new defensive stradegy is to let the other team run up and down the field. This really wears them out and they eventually have to put in their second string.

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fulmer is Like John Cooper. I could only wish we could go in the same direction as Ohio State did when they fired him.

Posted by BleedOrange on September 16, 2007 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I do LIKE Fulmer. Overall he has been great for UT. I LOVE Tennessee Football and it is about time for a changing of the guard. We just can't keep up anymore.

Posted by tenecc on September 16, 2007 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are two reasons that I am still a Vol fan - Pat Summit and Bruce Pearl.
Sixty years ago I did not know that Tennessee had basketball teams. Now I know that Tennessee does not have a Football team.
Mr. Hamilton, please Help!!!

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 2:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr Hamilton It's hard to watch this team for free. You are crazy if you think I am Paying to watch Them. PAY PER-VIEW NOT! They need to pay us to watch coaches not coach and players not make plays.

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have never had a post untill today.I have tried to keep an open mind but the future looks ooo so bad. God when does basketball season start? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT A TENNESSEE FAN WOULD SAY THAT?

Posted by Wilhelm16 on September 16, 2007 at 2:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

lets get it straight. john chavis can not coach fundamentals. either that or he just chooses not to. fulmer got a reputation for being a great recruiter for one reason. in the mid 90s all those great players wanted to play with Peyton. now he is gone. We don't recruit the right running backs. what since does it make to have four small backs there is no change of pace in that its just the same back with four faces. we need a power back to pick up 3rd and short. I am a big supporter of cutcliffe and fulmer. Phil gets o lineman to commit to ut. that is evident when you see that ainge has all day to throw. but on 3rd and short the o stalls out. and the d has been bad a form tackling for years. you can't rely on talent alone you have to have fundamentals. chavis can't coach em who Can? maybe my old linebacker coach former ut great Kelly Ziegler? as for the head coach Hamilton will likely hold out for Peyton Manning to retire. lets face it he is the next head coach at ut. i can't wait.

Posted by volfan39 on September 16, 2007 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lets list the CAN'TS. Ainge --1.Cant hand off 2. Can,t throw deep 3. Can't run fer sure!! . Aint sure he CAN'T see! Fumer some suggestions for your lazy, uninspired A---. Not only give back the 1 mil but all the rest of your unearned salary to help make up for all the lost revenue on merchandise NOT SOLD in '05 and the rest of this year., not to mention ticket sales and that other quality that you have cost the ORANGE NATION==PRIDE IN OUR FOOTBALL PROGRAM. COST OF THIS ==PRICELESS!!! Oh yeah dont forget the cost in new recruits that wont come to Tenn. to share in your humiliation. Fulmer you have cost us all by staying too long . Retire to Fla. I hear they love you down there!! BTW , If Qb's are ineffective at other schools, they find thier bu--s on the bench. Why is Ainge any different and when is Crompton ever gonna be ready enough? If Ainge is hurt, Crompton couldnt hurt us any worse than 1 off. t.d. Who knows he might even do better. Ex.==LSU played their redshirt fr.q.b.last nite for the entire game =44pts at last count. Fulmer getting any ideas? Been a fan for 50 plus yrs. - we have have hit Rocky Bottom. Wish I could hear , no make it, I wish Fulmer could overhear the ridicule in the meeting room at Gainsville tomorrow. Meyer really rubbed your nose in it in the 4th qtr didn't he?? Please leave Phil, you could join the ranks of the other ineffective coaches -Donovan Zook- Shula- Holtz-Sherill and so on--If you dont leave , Vandy- Ky.- South Car.- LSU-Ala. will have Tenn. as their homecoming game every year. YOUR ARE REPLACEABLE!!!

Posted by backwoodsvol on September 16, 2007 at 3 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What about hiring Bo Pellini from LSU. We all know what he can do with a defense and boy, does he look fired up on the sidelines. Just someone I would liked considered for the wishful vacancy. I kind of thought he would be some body's head coach after last season. Sure would be nice to see the Big Orange play some smash mouth D for a change.....

Posted by bleeding_orange on September 16, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

this is my first post, I usually just read along and for the most part agree. Yesterdays game was a total disgrace to the state of Tennessee and to all of us fans who pour our hearts into that team, it is time to CLEAN HOUSE from the top to the bottom. Fulmer you have had your turn,thanks for the good memories but it is over now, Hamilton start looking first thing Monday for a coach because you dont have one anywhere on that sideline or in box!!!!

Posted by utme1998 on September 16, 2007 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The losses have not turned me against the coach. I think the main thing that has me ticked off more than anything is the last three years the coaches say " we will get back to tennessee football(running the football being physical and stopping the run) every offseason". Nothing changes! Wilhem hit the nail on the head. FUNDAMENTALS!

Posted by jcvet on September 16, 2007 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All you so called Fulmer haters will be right back on his fat a$$ ship again after they beat a pathetic Ark. St. team next week. I'm sure there will be 105000 idiots there watching the game. When that fat a$$ won the NC in 98 it was bitter sweet for this long time TN fan. I knew we were lucky to win it even with dozens of future NFL players. I also knew that it meant we would be stuck with that idiot for yrs. to come. I told every one you will see what kind of coach he is when they see what he does in 99 with almost all the starters back from the NC team. They stunk 99 up worse than I even thought.A good coach would have made for a boring college football season with that talent back from a NC. I knew he was a joke after the 93 Alabama debacle. Remember how lost he and buttcliff were in 94 against UCLA when the 1st team QB went down? TN fans are Johnny come latelies if they thought he was a good coach. Forget the Memphis debacle in 96? What about all the blowouts by FL in the 90's? Go ahead buy the pay per view this wk. Go fill up the stadium Sat. If you do you all deserve the continued misery. Maybe the FL fans on here are right when they call us toothless hayseeds. TN fans sure act like it. A true TN fan would boycott this crappy over paid garbage. Uneducated losers will continue to watch and attend the games. I see no change.

Posted by madashell on September 16, 2007 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I suggest everyone go here and register--we must stick together in this:

http://www.firefulmer.net/phpbb2/view...

Posted by chrisw2967 on September 16, 2007 at 3:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

now with nothing to lose fulmers fat a$$ and cut-throat will probably start throwing the ball down field and playing all the frshmen he can and then say those young freshmen are starting to figure it out well the problem is fulmers 3 bellies still have not figured it out , I have said it for 7 years fulmer doesnt have it and has never had it. You take away the national championship and he has done nothing and winning 9 or 10 games and a few sec championships didnt translate into a national championship they usually lost what ever bowl game they went to any ways and ever since 98 it went straight down hill , at first I thought it was Randy Sanders but now Im not so sure I think its been the Shoneys Fat Boy the whole time. He is a joke let him go to UTC they need a big time Coach and boy hes a big one. Time for a change

Posted by volcop on September 16, 2007 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think it's time to go back to the huddle.

Posted by flyinpro on September 16, 2007 at 4:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nothing has changed in past 6-7 years. UT fan can count of the SP Teams giving up a score. It is time for Fulmer, Cutt (17 Yds Rushing) and the great "Chief" (Over 500 yds given up, no sacks)to resign and help a new coaching staff come in. What a joke. Maryville High School is better coached.

I Will not spend a dime on UT Football till Fulmer is out! Period. Its the only thing UT cares about, money. His time has come and gone. Twice this year alone the School has been embarrased on National TV during Prime time.

Posted by Canpflier on September 16, 2007 at 4:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only thing the least bit entertaining about all this is reading the comments of the "glory days" wannabes like "MANVOL", all of whom like to pretend they actually know what they're talking about. So you're a coach, eh? Of what, the local grasscutters team? Just try to keep in mind, guys, any one of the assistants on any Divi I team has forgotten more about college football than you have ever known. And for crying out loud, get a life. Venting this kind of rage over a football game is...well, it's not healthy.

Posted by yeavols on September 16, 2007 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

REALITY has just SET IN....We have dropped out of the top 25, but some have dreams of winning the rest of the games and playing for the SEC championship. Keep dreaming, it's all you have left.

Posted by Richmondvol on September 16, 2007 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MIKE HAMILTON'S EMAIL ADDRESS. YOU GUYS WANT CHANGE? THEN VOICE IT. QUIT TALKING SO BIG ON THIS WEBSITE AND SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THIS IS OFF OF THE OFFICIAL UT ATHLETICS WEBSITE.

mhamilton@tennessee.edu

Posted by AlpharettaVol on September 16, 2007 at 4:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John Chavis said he "doesn't feel very good" after the game. What a shock!! His defense has given up an average of 41 points per game so far this season. Where did we get the idea that he was one of the best defensive coordinators in the country? Our defense doesn't hit anybody -- they just grab them and hang on while they are dragged another 3-4 yards. I'm down here in Georgia and have to listen to jokes about Tennessee football all year. The only thing that can give me even the least bit of satisfaction from this season is to kick those Dogs around in two weeks. If we can't do that, there is no hope for this team.
By the way, here's a hint for the KNS sports department: don't insult our intelligence by writing any more stories about all the progress the Vols are making until we actually see some on the field. Talk is cheap.

Posted by skinalive on September 16, 2007 at 4:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The title of this article should read:

"Chavis' defense takes a beating as Fulmer naps"

Posted by yeavols on September 16, 2007 at 5:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Richmond VOL...mission accomplished..email sent..i am sure many have. It pained me to do so, but I am not going to sit by and watch our program hit a NEW ALL TIME LOW. I went through that during the Majors era.

Posted by utfansunite on September 16, 2007 at 5:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fellow Vols, College football is a BUSINESS. The only way changes will be made is if seats ARE empty. Stay home, don't buy concessions, don't pay to park, don't line Phat Phil's pockets. Remember Randy Sanders? Remember the firerandysanders website. Get on it someone! Last but not least I challenge the Vol Nation Student body to have t-shirts printed and given out FOR FREE that say Fire Fhil Fulmer! Saturday is the day Vol Fans to take back your team. You don't have to support the coach to support the team, but the powers that be are ignoring you and have for years.

Posted by jaruk123 on September 16, 2007 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UT just needs to look at the film and work like heck and it will keep on producing the same slop that it has for the past 5 years.

Posted by jhenson on September 16, 2007 at 5:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A friend of mine, a Kentucky grad, caught me in the lobby at church today and said "Henson, would you have thought in our lifetimes that kentucky would be a football school and Tennessee a basketball school ?" What's really sad about that comment is that Kentucky is a heck of a lot closer to being competitive in both sports than Tennessee.

Just an embarassing state of affairs.

Posted by rpoll1095 on September 16, 2007 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gillblog. I guess I didn't make my point clearly, but you and I are totally in agreement! IF, and I say that guardedly, a coaching change is decided, THEN, proceed with caution!!! Look for someone (as they did with Pearl) who actually has the vision, chemistry, and ability to reshape this thing.

I am not, as some are, calling for heads to roll this week, BUT, by the end of this season, some decisions are likely to be imminent.

In the meantime, I shall do my best to be mildly optimistic that some of this will get at least a little better! Can't get much worse.

Posted by dsmith5740 on September 16, 2007 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've nervously defended Coach Fulmer and his staff over these past 3-4 DISMALL years.......but no more! We aren't even competiive against D1 teams anymore - period! The team has fundimental issues in my opinion that can be traced back to how they are coached to execute. Our defense typically hit their opponents with their shoulders, hoping they will fall. Over these past 3 years specifically, 80% of the tackle attempts I've witnessed are either shoulder hits or 1-arm tackle attempts. That may have worked in high school - but not big time D1 football, especially in the SEC. Hit hard, but more importantly wrap up. Obviously the Vols don't practice tackling .....

Posted by TSNVol on September 16, 2007 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I've been a UT fan all my life. I'll turn 50 in October and Saturday night's game was very very hard to watch. I echo every post here today, well 99% of them...IT'S TIME FOR A "BIG" CHANGE!!!!As fans we need to get the point across to those in the ivory tower. Coach Fulmer, this morning on his show repeated his same old crap..."We'll look at the film and see what happened". MAN!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK! I can tell you what happened without reliving the carnage. Florida took you to the wood shed, PERIOD!!!! Can anyone tell me how Tennessee ranks in the top 5 of recruits every year almost...and they don't produce??? IT's COACHING! I've covered sports for 32 years across Tennessee and have seen inferior teams, with great coaching get better and better as the year progresses. Tennessee has gone the other way. And one comment about the game...You've got a QB with a broken finger. The team gets back in the game (28-20) and he hands the ball off, with the wrong hand, causing a bad exchange, thus the fumble and UF touchdown. If the QB is hurt, you take him out of the mix. If he's not 100% the "D" on the opposite of the ball also knows this and will pin their ears back and bring it. This play "set the tone" and this game should "set the tone" for the Unversity's next big decison...CLEAN HOUSE!!!

Posted by rick1vols on September 16, 2007 at 7:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK... I'm on board now. It's time for a fresh start! Coach Fulmer and his staff took us as far as they could and it is greatly appreciated...but they could not sustain a respectable national level!

Posted by Vols7vols on September 16, 2007 at 8:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

most of you guys want to blame it all on the coaching. You want to blame chavis for our guys not knowing how to freaking tackle??? come on now, get real. Our players know how to tackle by now. They learned how to tackle in high school. Otherwise they wouldnt be here at Tennessee. Florida just out played us. We had all the bad breaks yesterday. We have two losses against two top 6 teams. Tennessee will finish 10-2 and still have a shot at the SEC title game if GA beats FL. You guys have no faith. Have some faith for once.

Posted by rockytopjeff on September 16, 2007 at 8:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

10-2 is a stretch, but I think we'll end up 7-5 and they'll give him a couple more years.I was at the game and was treated really well by the Florida fans for the most part. It's easy to have class when you are without a doubt the school with the brightest future in the country. I just wish we had found Urban Meyer before they did.

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