Posted by andy112382 on September 5, 2007 at 2:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad to have Coker back.

GO VOLS!!!

Posted by snafu14u on September 5, 2007 at 2:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker hasn't made a tackle since he's been here.But to be fair he hasn't missed one either.I'm more worried about 22 missed tackles than Coker being in the backfield. He will have a bigger impact on the Florida game, if he's still on the team at that time.What's been done on the defensive side of the ball for the upcoming game? bonzaivol

Posted by bloodrunsorange on September 5, 2007 at 6:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He’s the first of 5 with real speed that can help. PLAY THE SPEED!

Posted by BleedOrange on September 5, 2007 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He is a great back, but...one more body to divide time in the backfield. Why not pick a guy and stick with him? Arian looked great. I believe he averaged 6.7 a carry. Why mess with a good thing? Stick with one guy and ride him. Now the stats will read Coker 6 carries, Foster 9 carries, Hardesty 4 carries. You get the picture. We need 1 feature back period.

Posted by TurboFan on September 5, 2007 at 8:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a reward: screw up somehow, get suspended, miss all of preseason practice in 100 degree heat, miss only one game against a tough opponent then come back for the easier (or maybe not so easy) game? Coker should remain on the bench. If not for the respect of his teammates that did everything right then for the sake of shaking off the rust. Issues are on the defensive side of the ball.

Posted by hueypilot on September 5, 2007 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Someone close to the program told me of several very difficult situations that Coker has had to deal with. These are of a highly personal nature and let me just say they are things a young man in his late teens or early 20's should not have to deal with. (I know I just ended two sentences with prepositions with apologies to Mrs. Jean Litterer) This is in no way is offered as an excuse to use drugs or skip classes or do whatever it was to get suspended (I wasn't told that part and don't really care) but it might help to be a little more sympathetic to these young men, many of whom come from an environment that is, to put it mildly, a little different that Archie and Olivia's home in the Garden District. No snide remarks here, just saying that many of them come from backgrounds that make their graduating high school a big accomplishment, given their lack of support at home. I hope this kid gets his priorities straight and gets back on the field where he can be an electrifying player.

Posted by RunRunPassPunt on September 5, 2007 at 9:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Put the best atheletes on the field and let them play!! How rusty can he be? We run 4 plays - run right, run left, pass to the right flat, and pass to the left flat.

Posted by 55Vol on September 5, 2007 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is Coker going to play defense? Offense did pretty well last week without him. The defense needs a spark or two.

Posted by vol4jesus on September 5, 2007 at 9:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

RRPP how optimistic we are today! Wow they only give us 4 color choices on the lights at the intersection. Won't be hard to do since they keep it simple. Salt or pepper? I can handle it . Two choices...yeh. GO BIG ORANGE!!! I'm behind you win or lose!

An attempt at a kinder/gentler posting

Posted by grvol on September 5, 2007 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Doesn't matter. He likely won't be utilized in the soft, finess, dink and dunk, left coast (Ainge is from Oregon) system Vols bring to the SEC.

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again the Coaching Staff trying to take the attention away from their bad work. Who cares about Coker not practicing? He can play...we all know that, they know that.
They need to focus on the D, the offense was just fine.

FIRE FULMER! PROMOTE CUTCLIFFE!

Posted by marc_ash on September 5, 2007 at 10:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point I_love_football. It isn't the offense that needs help, its the D. Don't sleep on S. Miss, these guys are a dang good football team!!!!

Posted by marc_ash on September 5, 2007 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Blah Blah Blah coaching this, Fulmer that, fire him.

Can you people put the fire Fulmer crap in the trash. I understand a lot of you don't like him but nobody is going to fire Fulmer right now! You want Fulmer to make changes, well he did that yesterday by replacing 2 D linemen and a DB.

Posted by 3rdtenn on September 5, 2007 at 10:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Promote Cutcliffe???? He is part of the system. Look at what a great job he did recruiting at Ole Miss. New Blood, New Ideas. That is what we need

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If Coker had kept his head on straight then he could have been a dangerous option for "dink and dunk" passes out of the backfield.

OTOH, the coaches know better than anyone here whether he's ready to be out there Saturday. UT runs a fairly complex system. Maybe too complex but that's a different discussion. Coker has catching up to do before he can be counted on.

Posted by jcvet on September 5, 2007 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Can't do much with only 3-4 carrries a game.

Posted by BluetickBlues on September 5, 2007 at 11:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker needs 15 carries a game if not more. He's our answer to the Percy Harvin's of the SEC. He also needs to take Foster's spot on kickoff returns. We all know what Coker would have done if he had returned the kickoff or had the been running the ball in Foster's place on the 42 yard run. He would have took it to the house without so much as a peak over his shoulder. So what if he's a bit rusty? Hand him the ball open a hole and watch him go! Lets beat Southern Miss GO VOLS!

Posted by 55Vol on September 5, 2007 at 11:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Fire Fulmer... the rallying cry heard on every post on this site. As I said in another post, who is the coach to hire to fill all of the expectations of the volunteer fans? Others say Doug Marrone. He didn't do much as Auburn's OC. He is not enough coach to unite the fans. The only coach in America right now who could and do a better job than Fulmer at Tennessee on paper is Urban Meyer. He has the record, conference championships in two different D-1 conferences and a NC to boot. His winning % is .837. The Administration would have to prostitute the university, however, to even offer him enough money to look at leaving Fla. Since Alabama has already done that with a coach who has .679 winning percentage as a head coach(Saban), maybe we should watch and see if he becomes Bear Bryant reincarnated.
Let's hope Coker stays straight and helps the team this week. GO Vols.

Posted by orangebloodgmc on September 5, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

But if one of his 3, 4 carries, he takes it to the house ...

Posted by Coach_Joe on September 5, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

People need to lose the idea of firing Fulmer and promoting Cut! If Fulmer were to be fired I doubt very seriously Coach Cut would even take the job. They are very good friends. Unlike Phil and Johnny. At the time Phil was just a part of the staff. I'd say if Phil gets canned then Cut will look for a job elsewhere.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker's best value should be on returns...Foster did have one good return but the overall volume of the work the last few years has not been pretty returning punts or kickoffs. Field position played a huge role Saturday. The staff needs to stop with the lip service and special teams and get something done in a hurry. Personally, I don't see it...not after three years. Hope I'm surprised.

If we don't improve on special teams we are forfeiting one third of the game, right out. Hard to overcome that for very good offenses and defenses.

Posted by 55Vol on September 5, 2007 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good points Coach _Joe

Posted by txsvol on September 5, 2007 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The reason you don't pick one TB and stick with him is that none of them has separated himself from the pack. Also, each may bring different skills, and be used in certain situations. When you recruit ***** and ****TBs and tell them they will have to sit, they go elsewhere. Whereas, if you tell them they will play, maybe they will come, just for the exposure of playing for a team frequently on TV. Look at the USC situation, where Emmanuel Moody left, saying that he wants to be the featured back, but USC is all about getting 'the rotation, getting everybody sharing time.'(They have ten TBs.) Many pro teams have gone in the direction of two featured backs, as well: Saints with McAllister and Bush, Cowboys with J. Jones and Barber, etc. If Coker separated himself from his competition as much as Ainge (the psychology of picking a starter at QB is different) has from his, he would still risk more injuries if he played every down, so it's important to have at least three quality TBs available. Remember the 1997 Jamaal Lewis' injury and the two Travises stepping up? Go Vols!

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 11:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Cobb-Webb-Thompson

Garner-Stewart-Hayden

Lewis-Henry-Stephens

Excellent backs all. What stables we had back then...even Shawn Bryson at fullback was a threat.

We've wandered the desert this decade...Jabari Davis, Derrick Tinsley never really performed as an every down back. Cedric and Gerald were serviceable...not sure about these current guys.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If they fire Fulmer maybe they should consider App St's coach.

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am anxious to see how this week's defensive changes will help us Saturday.

Hopefully, Coker has all his problems behind him. Off the field stuff can be a distraction to a team, and I'm really wary of Coker at this point, but I guess let the coaches be the coaches.

firing fulmer is SOOO not the answer. Just because we're 0-1. maybe FSU should fire Bobby! Maybe Charlie Weiss should go as well! Give me a break.

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly, mailing it in after an opening loss! Does anybody think that maybe, just maybe, Cal is actually a good team?

I hope we wipe the field with S. Miss! and UF! Probably won't happen, but if it did, maybe it would end the "Fire Fulmer" rhetoric.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 11:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The problem is that we are what? 42-21 in our last five seasons? 14-11 over the last 25 games, and more disturbingly 2-4 in our last six games.

Being 0-1 this year is only the latest slice of that pie. Coach Fulmer is a seasoned veteran coach, not a newcomer. We've been told by his supporters to give his changes after 05 a chance...well it's 07 now. Time to produce.

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 11:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Has anyone heard about Xavier... whether he's a go for Saturday... I'm not up on how long concussions tend to lay people out.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at noon (Suggest removal)

If Fulmer doesn't win the SEC or go to a BCS bowl this year then he should step aside in my opinion. He's had the talent and opportunities to win it since 98. There won't be any better opportunities than this year for the next 3 or 4 years.

I have tried to follow the changes he's made. I still believe he's done and doing the right things to move the program in the right direction. But 05 was unacceptable and last year was lukewarm.

At some point, he's going to have to completely lose that aversion he has for risk. I'd love to see him put Coker and O'Neal back to return kicks. Is there a risk? Yes... but the opportunity for reward is so much greater.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 12:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Xavier is doing better and is expected to play from what I understand. It was a concussion

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think the spark will come from XM if he can play, not Coker.

It was riveting watching that play Saturday night.. So glad it wasn't more serious.

Here's to XM! Hope you can start and GO VOLS!!

Posted by andy112382 on September 5, 2007 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Coker doesn't play defenese, but he also may have gotten the 3rd and 2 when we had to punt and most likely would have gotten in for the touchdown where Foster was caught right before the goal line, so obviously he can make a big impact. Defense will be fine.

GO VOLS!!!

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt,

Gonna be hard to do either one... news flash... Tebow can throw AND run! I know it was WKU, but he still looked pretty good! With us playing in the swamp, don't see a victory over UF.

With already one loss, it will be very difficult to go to a BCS bowl.

This is a very talented team, I agree... I hope I'm wrong about UF.

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good point of new blood and new ideas...Cut would probably not take the job, I agree.
What about the coach from Boise St.? That guy has the cojones to win a ball game.
They have the highest win % in the country in the last 6 years I think? I heard it on the radio the other day at 680 the Fan in Atlanta.
Forget about Fulmer's winning %...yeah he's the best now but you know what, when it counted the most he didn't win...
I like the idea of throwing Coker out there.
Last year the 3 punch of Foster, Coker and Hardesty worked at times.
As for our D, I'm disappointed that Chavis was not on chewing those guys as much as he usually does. He's a guy that chews his D even when they do well and I didn't see any of that. Disappointing to say the least.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is never easy to win the SEC. But I don't think UF will win it even if UT doesn't. I don't think they'll win the East.

After UT, they play at Ole Miss, home against Aub, then @ LSU. After a week off, I think they play Vandy, UGA, UK, and USC in consecutive weeks. That's not good news for a team with as little experience on D as they have. As rough as UT had it, UF's experience is much less. They only had 12 or 13 lettermen return and will probably start/play true Freshmen at DL, LB, and in the secondary.

If Meyer wins it this year then the rest of the league needs to just mail it in to him til he decides to move on to winning Super Bowls every year.

BTW, UGA put just as bad of a beat down on WKU a week or two before UT beat them up at home last year. They probably don't have more than a couple of players that could make a 3 deep in the SEC.

I'm not saying UT will beat UF. I once was confident that they would... now, not so much. However, I don't think UF can replace as many very good players on D as they did and not drop off significantly.

Their O may be better... but WKU isn't the measuring stick for staking that claim. They put 34 on USM and 42 on UCF in their warm up games last year before averaging about 25 against the SEC. Both of those teams were much better than WKU is this year.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The BSU coach is a new guy. The guy who built the program now coaches at Colorado. He lost to one of the 1AA Montana schools in his first game as Buff's coach. There are no guarantees with those coaches either. Just because they can do some nice things at BSU doesn't mean that translates to BCS conference success.

Posted by usnavyvolfaninva on September 5, 2007 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LazhilUTDelt,

How many national titles has Boise St won?

I looked at their record over the last 10 years... do you honestly think he'd have that win% in the SEC? I'd LOVE to play teams like HI, Portland St. Univ of Idaho, etc, every year!!

Sorry, but 8 or 9 wins in the SEC is pretty dang good!

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LazhilUTDelt

I agree on Peterson. After all, he proved you can do a lot when down and less than two minutes on the clock. I guarantee he wouldn't have punted and thrown in the towel like we did the other night in a similiar situation.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 12:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

usnavyvol:

8 or 9 wins in the SEC is mediocre, especially in a 12 game schedule. And that's not counting our now-standard bowl loss.

That's 66% or 75% winning percentage. That's fine for the Kentuckys and Vandys who would dream of that, but not for a program with our facilities, money and tradition.

Posted by bigfan502 on September 5, 2007 at 12:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Of all the positions on a football team, an outstanding defensive player is the toughest to find and recruit. The defensive player in order to be effective must be a great athlete, or at least close to it. Coaching a defense is not all that tough, but, what is galling is the fact the recruiter can't spot that special type of athlete, the defensive recruiter either has that knack, or he does not when he mulls over recruits as defensive players> But what is scary to defensive coaches is the fact you have already recruited the defensive players, who you find are not up to par and you are stuck with them...there is no escape. Making mistakes on recruting defensive linemen has resulted in many coaches being fired.

Posted by marc_ash on September 5, 2007 at 12:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

First off don't spread this garbage that a BCS bowl is out of reach with one win. For Gods sake people the National Champion was a 1 loss SEC team last year.

And yes, people should look at Cal and say they were a very good team. Look at what they did last season after the loss..they won 8 in a row and almost beat USC.

Give it a rest people, a loss is a loss and now its time to step up and fix the mistakes from game 1....WHICH FULMER AND CO ARE TRYING TO DO. Look at the other articles posted today, he's already made 4 changes to the D line and secondary.

I wonder what will make people happy other than perfection. They're doing what they can, focus on some positives for a change.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Doing what they can and trying to do it aren't cutting it. At some point, that trying has to produce results. I say again: 42-21 over since 2002, 14-11 over two seasons and one game, and 2-4 in our last six games.

You've heard of rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic? I'm glad he's making changes to the line and DB's. Is it too late?

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sheepscape, That's the trap isn't it?

BSU goes to a BCS bowl game with a team that more than likely couldn't have been bowl eligible against UT's schedule last year... and at the same time, UT is supposedly mediocre when they probably would have been undefeated and set all kinds of NCAA records with BSU's schedule.

I agree that UT needs to win and that 8 or 9 isn't acceptable. But it isn't reasonable to praise BSU for winning against their schedule as if they accomplished a greater feat than UT did. They didn't. BSU is still a mid-major. With nothing to lose, they threw caution to the wind against OU and had everything fall their way.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 1 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No Sheepscape. The changes being made are not comparable to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titantic.

This is still a football team with the potential to win the SEC. Chavis needs to get his head out but the O looked good for a first game.

By the by, they played a much better D than WKU and could have easily put 49 on them if the D had gotten them the ball more.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sjt,

I believe the larger issue is Chris Peterson and his aggressiveness. No one is foolish enough to compare the SEC and the WAC, or any other conference. Although, I will point out to all of you that for all our vaunted SEC prowess, we the University of Tennessee Volunteers are getting our rears handed to us by mid-tier Big Ten and ACC teams in bowls, and by an upper tier Pac Ten squad in the season opener. That's troubling to me. I'm not an SEC apologist. I could care less if UF wins their bowl game if we are bricking ours.

And SJT, you yourself have said time is running out.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes. But it isn't because any ship is sinking other than CPF's.

BTW, I was only half-kidding about ASU's coach. Boone isn't exactly an easy place to get players to. NC has good talent but they also have to compete in-state with 5 D-1 programs including 4 ACC teams.

Moore has taken that bag of lemons and won two consecutive 1AA championships... and they DO light up the scoreboard especially against their level of program.

Unfortunately, he's probably too old.

Could steal some of his assistants though...

Posted by jobrando on September 5, 2007 at 1:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Fulmer is not going anywhere until the fans stop packing in Neyland and stay home. Watch it on TV. One empty home game stadium with a loss and he is gone.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just wonder if UF's fans had any conversations similiar to this because Meyer came from relatively garden-variety Utah.

The SEC coaching landscape is vastly different than when the Fulmer-Cut-Chavis trifecta was rolling over folks.

Posted by grvol on September 5, 2007 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't fathom what goes through or doesn't go through the minds of those who argue "Who are you gonna get that can do better than Fulmer?" Give me a break. The list is too long to put on this sight. They probably said the same thing about basketball for years and years before we finally brought in Pearl (from a small school). Apparently FL didn't mind that Meyer coached in the WAC or MT West or whatever Utah is in. LSU, GA, FL, AL and SC have all brought in new coaches with fresh ideas. Look at Phil's record vs. those guys. TN is falling behind the times in football, the record the past 10 yrs speaks for itself. Its time for new blood at TN!

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 1:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"And SJT, you yourself have said time is running out."

It hasn't run out though... and there's no sense in making assumptions one game into the season about the ship sinking or personnel changes being futile. Of course they're not futile. They'll have an impact... for good or bad.

I'm not as optimistic as I was but I still think CPF has made alot of good changes in the program. He needs to be more of a risk taker though... and that's the one thing I worry that he won't be able to change.

I differ from marc who apparently thinks Cal is world beaters. I think they're a good team that UT made look better than they are on offense. One of the coaches said so as well concerning the missed tackles. UT made their runners look better than they are.

But I still like this team and they can still turn it around. They may not win 5... but they may very well run off 12 to win the SEC and play in the BCS. They have the potential for either.

Oddly, if they make the SEC CG and lose, they have virtually no chance of getting a BCS bid... but an appearance still isn't good enough IMO. They need to win one or the other.

BTW, I have absolutely no pull and suspect that CPF will be back next year unless they repeat 05.

Posted by marc_ash on September 5, 2007 at 1:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sheep, UT has to take what they have and thats a team coached by Fulmer and company. I don't give a rats behind about 41-21 the last 5 seasons, I'm concerned about what we are going to do to beat S Miss on Sat. Save all that "fire Phil" talk for after the season.

And I actually agree with sjt on this one...we are a solid SEC team. We lose because the competition we play week in and week out is superior to other conferences. UT was the only school to have 2 ranked opponents playing this past weekend. UT is a very good football team, we just play teams that are as good or better than us. When that happens, we lose some. We aren't Hawaii you know.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The problem I see it sjt, is that at the end of the season the apologists will rise up and say we can't talk about replacing Coach Fulmer because 'it might hurt recruiting'...might hurt this, might hurt that. Excuses not to get to a touchy subject if you ask me. We are rolling in these great classes, and Coach February can't do anything with them in the fall. Our line play is especially embarrassing from that standpoint. Does anyone doubt we have top 25 talent? Why are we struggling to even be ranked at the end of the year these days?

Well the losses are what is hurting this program, and there have been too many lately.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc, please.

You may not give a rat's rear about our rotten record lately, but I do. Lots of other fans do, and whether you like it or not more and more people are starting to think like me. Don't believe it? Then why is the home opener this year, a PPV game mind you, not sold out?

You can do your best to try and erase history, but we are slipping.

We are a solid SEC team? Maybe, maybe not. I bet you can't explain why other conferences are whipping our tails head to head in bowl games and now during the regular season. I bet you can't explain why our special teams do not EVER get better. I bet you can't explain why Cal last year was the only victory vs a top ten school we've had in ages.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

grvol, There may be better guys. But there are no guarantees. Dan Hawkins was 53-11 building Boise State up. He was 2-10 at Colorado last year losing an embarrassing game to Montana St. They play in the Big 12 North (weak division) and didn't have Texas last year.

Unfortunately, UT's home state recruiting base won't allow them to make a Zook-like mistake. UF got great players any way. Same with UGA. (Georgia may have a better density of great HS football players than Florida does though not the population.) Bring in a flop and UT could fall so far behind in recruiting that they won't rise to the level they're at for 10 years.

Not many folks like yourself have the patience to let someone rebuild the program. UT could very easily begin to look like Bama did for years... and have to spend that kind of money to have any hope of resurrecting the program.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt: No there are no guarantees. Not in football, not in life. I personally don't allow fear to control my actions. If you run your business or in this case, your athletic program from a viewpoint of timidity, you will reap what you sow.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on September 5, 2007 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash good post I'm with you 110%. You have to understand we have fans that can't get there butt out of there face. I guess our fans want to be like Alabama and fire a coach every 2 years until we find a guy that can win 11 games every year. I just wish for once our fans would stop crying after every loss and wanting fire Fulmer after every call or every missed tackle or every bad punt. The man puts in a a lot of hours more than you and I and I don't think any of our butt hole fans could do a better job. Get over the loss to a good if not great Cal team and let's show up Saturday night and yell, scream, stomp, and beat the crap out of S. Miss. GO VOLS and grow up TN fans quit crying like 2 year olds.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on September 5, 2007 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

marc_ash good post I'm with you 110%. You have to understand we have fans that can't get there butt out of there face. I guess our fans want to be like Alabama and fire a coach every 2 years until we find a guy that can win 11 games every year. I just wish for once our fans would stop crying after every loss and wanting fire Fulmer after every call or every missed tackle or every bad punt. The man puts in a a lot of hours more than you and I and I don't think any of our butt hole fans could do a better job. Get over the loss to a good if not great Cal team and let's show up Saturday night and yell, scream, stomp, and beat the crap out of S. Miss. GO VOLS and grow up TN fans quit crying like 2 year olds.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mjohnsonvols

Full of personal attacks, short on reality check.

You know, Alabama still played us tough even with Shula. Since Shula was there, they pushed us to overtime in 03, they lost by 4 in 2004, beat us by 3 in 2005, and we needed a late drive to win by 3 last year.

Anyone who thinks Saban isn't 3-4 points better as a coach than Shula isn't versed in reality. We all can mock Alabama for past mistakes, but if they start winning consistantly over us again it's all over but the weeping.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And no, I don't want a coach that can win 11 games every year. I just want a coach that can win one--ONE SEC title this decade.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on September 5, 2007 at 1:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

He still has 2-3 years to get that done. Decade runs ten years. So I guess now we need to win by more than 1 or two points. Where I come from a win is a win. If it is that bad go pull Alabama and Florida we don't need you. We need fans that will support through the good and the bad.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sheepscape, It isn't about fear. Reckless isn't the same as not being ruled by fear.

IMO however, the risk/reward scenario shifts if CPF doesn't make very significant progress this year. The risk of a renewed decline under Fulmer becomes likely enough to outweigh the risk of bringing someone else in.

UT loses more than UGA or UF after this season and USCe will continue its climb.

In light of the SEC CG loss scenario, I think a 10 win season having played in the SEC CG and a significant bowl win would be a 3rd outcome that would show sufficient progress.

I hope CPF never has to be fired or even publicly pressured. I hope that they offer him a gracious out into administration.

That would be the only way Cut could take the job. With Cut as coach, the problem could become too much risk instead of too little. Chavis might bolt if that happens... which might allow Cut to bring someone in like Joe Kines.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Weak.

I love my school and my team and that is why I don't want to settle for mediocrity. Ironically, it seems you might love Bama or UF more since you want us saddled with this coaching staff. After all Saban and Meyer both hold the record books over Fulmer. You apparently like the status quo.

If you can answer why I am wrong to want at least one SEC title from 2000 on(I won't use decade if you are going to parse that term to make your so-called 'point') then please tell me.

And while you are so worried about what a decade means as opposed to 'this decade' I suppose we can go rewrite the history books that commonly refer to decades as the time from 00-09...otherwise what you are thinking of is a ten year span.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sjt: Yes, I can understand what you are saying...I just don't agree with you.

The rest of the SEC has forced our hand. You're a smart guy...you know what Coach Fulmer's record is against Meyer, Richt, Tuberville, Spurrier, and Saban.

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 2:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"I say again: 42-21 over since 2002, 14-11 over two seasons and one game, and 2-4 in our last six games"

Don't forget the talent packed team in 2001 that choked because Fulmer could not adapt to playing a BACKUP QB against LSU...

The clock is ticking, we are losing recruits...how much longer until we become FSU?

The Fire Fulmer Chant must start now. He's KILLING THIS PROGRAM!!!

I bet that those of you that defend him and defend giving the team some time to play better are the same people that complain when the student section is very loud, intimidating to the oponents and that stands up the whole game (yes I said it, Neyland Stadium is not intimidating for anyone wearing the other team's colors, we're too nice!). If you want a boring, guttless and coward team on a boring stadium...maybe you should switch teams.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm not satisfied with that Sheepscape. Richt is winning 10+ almost every year at UGA. Miles is doing it at LSU. I think UF will struggle some this year but will have a run of success after that. Auburn has won 10+ in two of the last 3 years. Who thinks Spurrier isn't shooting for that level?

I would very much like to see the Vols winning 10-12 games every year... and believe that is a lofty but not completely unreasonable expectation. Eight or 9 wins should be the aberration, not the norm.

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Winning less than 10 games at UT is a LOSING SEASON.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No, I know you aren't satisfied sjt. I'm glad that even though we disagree about the here and know, we can at least agree on that, and the bigger picture of just how nuts the SEC east will be in 08 and 09.

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everyone is predicting Georgia and Florida to be pre-season top 5 teams next year...Tennessee...well...we'll be lucky to be ranked.
Thank God we didn't play Appalachian St.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"The Fire Fulmer Chant must start now. He's KILLING THIS PROGRAM!!!"

Absolutely NOT!!! The man has earned the right to set things right. But this should be the year. There shouldn't be any more "next years"... This is as good of an opportunity as UT will have any time soon to win the East at a minimum. The SEC championship is not unattainable.

Cal dictated to UT. They outcoached Chavis and put Cut in a situation that didn't play to the team's strength. Hopefully, that won't happen again this year... and we can all look back at Cal as an anomaly... a fluke.

Of course a few of you wouldn't be satisfied at all if Fulmer survives. You've set your head against him and nothing will change your mind.

I am for whatever is best for the team and most likely to make UT dominant. If that is CPF... then I'm for him. If not then I'm against him... though I still have a heart for the guy. I'm pulling for him to succeed. Some of you pretty obviously aren't...

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

These Vols better get their butts in gear. I don't want a 6-5 team coming to Lexington. The tide has turned. We were just a play or two away from a 10-3 season last year and they are all back. I would have loved to had Fulmer a few years back but now I see the magic belonged to Randy Sanders. Thanks for running him off. It will be a sweet victory and perhaps, with a few surprises, that win on Nov. 24th may clinch us a spot in the SEC championship game. I just hope the Vols can win a few before then so that victory will be special. EVERYTHING has changed Vol fans. We are coming...Here Kitty Kitty!!!!

Posted by mjohnsonvols on September 5, 2007 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your right cheapscape let's fire fulmer and hire 15 different coaches and continue to be 8 or 9 win team. God help the next coach b/c he will need to be god to make us TN fans happy. By the way I hate bama and fla. I defend Fulmer and always will and I will not complain at all about the stadium being to loud. I think we are a wine and cheese crowd now. We have a bunch old farts that comaplaim more than cheer.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sjt:

As we have discussed, if Fulmer can get us to a BCS game(will be tough) or win the SEC, I'll be happy to tell every Tom, Dick, and Harry how wrong I was.

I just suppose that the glaring deficiencies I have seen since about 2002 give me pause as to whether or not that can be done. Please please let me be wrong this year.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mjohnsonvols,

At least if we replace Fulmer with a coach that wins 8 or 9 that new coach won't be taking a fat paycheck every week and take the university to the proverbial cleaners in the meantime.

If you hate Bama and Florida so much, why don't you root for a coach that can beat Saban and Meyer and make those Tide and Gator fans just as unhappy as our fan base is?

Does Ohio State regret getting rid of Cooper for Tressel? Did Oklahoma regret hiring Stoops? Florida made a mistake with Zook, but they've won an SEC title and their second National title in 11 years? Why does everyone assume we can't do the same?

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Because of the old mentality of "Fulmer is a good ole boy", "He has the highest win % amongst active coaches"
Florida State is the example not to be followed...but we're falling right on their same path. Players breaking rules and being arrested and the coach doing nothing...recruits turning us down for other programs...FSU is the example not to be followed!!!!

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

That winning percentage argument is slipping, and fast.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 2:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lazhil, You read what I wrote but your prediction is without base. If UT wins the East this year then they'll be highly rated. If they do better than that then they'll be top 5. If they flop then they won't... neither has happened yet. I'm hoping for the best but prepared for the worst... or at least the bad.

BTW, who is "everyone"? UF maybe... but I think they could very well lose 4 games this year. That would probably keep them out of the top 5 next year. UGA will probably have a better record than team. They play 4 games outside of Georgia. UT, Bama, and Vandy are road games. UF is a neutral site on the border. They play at GT. OTOH, it could go bad for them.

We'll get a much clearer picture of them this week.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, I like Fulmer precisely because he looks and acts like a football coach and not a golf pro. He still has to get the job done though.

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ukchamps,

If I were you little mildcat, I'd be wishing for ANY victory over a Tennessee team. How old were you the last time the Cats beat the Vols? Were you even born?

Sanders cost you that game last year, sir. Your offense's bricking late in the game was vintage Randy. I can see though by your 'one-two plays' argument that Sanders has exported some of Fulmer's favorite excuses up north at least. Enjoy those.

Personally though, I don't blame you for trying to talk smack with your football betters. After all, with Bruce Pearl here at UT, you may not beat us at ANYTHING ever again.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was 12 the last time we beat UT. I'm not disputing the past, just pointing out that the future is bright. You have to start somewhere. Our baseball program has risen above yours. UT B-Ball is looking up, but it takes more than a year or two of mild success to jumpstart a program; still choked in the tourney last year. You will always have the lead on us for players with criminal and drug arrests. And you wouldn't even have that annoying song if it wasn't for 2 good ole boys from Kentucky..Here Kitty Kitty!!!

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We'll at least we are the same age UKchamps.

And yes, I will readily concede you all are on the uptick. The trip to Lexington this year will make me nervous, as it has at least a few other times.

You'll forgive me if I don't get back to you for a bit. Got all kinds of football to be played between now and then, and we have a few issues to sort out down here.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 3:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UK, The future of UK football is not bright. You all are the blind squirrel of the football world. You'll do better than average with your current crop then return to what you are. Just look at your football history. You rise up (especially on O) once in awhile then slump again.

Posted by invisiblekid on September 5, 2007 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man, I sure miss the pay site sometimes. A Wildcat, A WILDCAT fan coming in here and talking trash? Unbelievable. Anyway, excellent points TxsVol and TDTN(11:33 post). I am not sure whether Coker got what he deserved in terms of suspension not knowing the circumstances but, strictly from a football perspective, I am glad to see him back. I am also not sure how many carries he gets but any touches he takes away from Hardesty is a good thing IMO. I don't have anything against him and, having followed him some here in NC, would love to see him succeed. Unfortunately though, I don't think he has produced enough in a game to keep carries away from Coker or even keep Creer on the bench.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Speaking of blind squirrels, how bout Fulmer and his blind eye to the drug and gun problems with his players? As far as I see, all of you are talking about the present and the future on this message board. I just want to introduce myself and stop by each week to comment. It should lead to some interesting conversations leading up to our game in Nov. Rupp started something with basketball. John Cohen has got the baseball team going. Now Rich Brooks has started a football program. UT has been going downhill for years. It's a good thing you have Pearl. Gotta make money for Pat Summitt's team somewhere.. Here Kitty

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Are you daft? Coker is being handled through the policy... one very similar to UK's. I think it is too lenient... but UT just this year lightened it up to match the other SEC schools.

Johnson was accused of brandishing a toy gun and was acquitted. He denied even doing that much. Some Barney Fife was in a tiff with the other driver and thought he'd throw his weight around.

Brooks is a fine coach... which means you shouldn't get too used to him. You are still Kentucky and we're still talking about football.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And we are talkin about 6 ALL-SEC selections this year.....Thats more than you got...Nice to meet you all. I'll be around all year. And you have many more arrest in the past 3 years than you just mentioned. I had the misfortune of working on the strip for a number of years and those football players do whatever the heck they want. I'm sure its similar at most major universities, but those KIDS were delinquents.

Posted by volunteerTY23 on September 5, 2007 at 3:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

coker will make a huge difference on this O, he is a great change of pace guy and can catch and run out of the backfield, we need him he needs us, let's cheer him and this team on, rem. it's 1 loss and it's non conf. and it's the first game of the yr. against a great team, we'll be fine, now all that said give CREER and Coker the damn ball, and feed arian the rock also, run, run, run,....................V-O-L-S GO VOLS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I heard the same thing about Brooks that I heard about Mumme.

You know, the guy that cheated...I mean while we are talking about Fulmer's off the field problems and all.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mumme did a fine job. He just didn't do defense. And apparently, he was a LITTLE dishonest. Brooks is 90 with no history of cheating, so I'll take him. We will see how the year shakes out. Good luck against S. Miss...

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UK, Pre-season selections don't mean a thing... for that matter, neither do post season selections. Winning games is what matters. UK has had some great offenses.... but they've never been a consistent winner in football. There is no reason to believe that Brooks will get that done before he retires (he's 66). They'll go to bowls. They'll win some games. They have an outside chance of making Atlanta this year... but SEC championships and the like are a pipe dream. It isn't who you are.

Posted by grvol on September 5, 2007 at 4 p.m. (Suggest removal)

His 2nd year under Sanders...Woodson could well tank just like Ainge did under RS' watchful eye. I laugh when I think of KY fans believing Sanders can coach. Fulmer thought the same thing. Now he's deservingly on the hotseat. KY 4-7, maybe 5-6.

Posted by vol4jesus on September 5, 2007 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mommy that man was mean to the 'Putty tat.' Honey go call PETA and we will make sure that Blue Tick Hound doesn't scare poor lil kitty anymore. Smokey has promised he would take goog care of the kitty while we are away. Look at Smokey smile...so innocent and harmless. Sic'em Smokey..look at that cat climb that tree. GOOD OLE ROCKY TOP..ROCKY TOP TENNESSEE...WHEEW!!

Posted by vol4jesus on September 5, 2007 at 4:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GOOG= GOOD

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sanders is a good QB coach... Hopefully he'll be smart enough to be what he is...

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 4:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't know you grvol, but Im a bettin man. 4-7 is a little crazy. Especially since we play 12 games. Most of you seem to be educated, your the exception. 9-3 is what we will be. If we can beat Arkansas in 3 weeks, that will be 10-2 and a trip to Catlanta. Kitty

Posted by Sheepscape on September 5, 2007 at 4:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Admit it, you just wanted to write Catlanta.

Posted by grvol on September 5, 2007 at 4:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My bad UKLoser...4-8.

Posted by marc_ash on September 5, 2007 at 4:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Listen guys, I'm not saying that we shouldn't consider someone else other than Fulmer. But like I said about 3 weeks back, lets make sure we get someone that will do a better job than Fulmer. In saying that, I compeletely understand that unless you get a proven name there are no guarentees of the program coming back to the top. There aren't any even if UT does get a top name for that matter.

My points are two fold on this: One, make sure we get someone that will be better than Fulmer and Two bring someone in that will be given a chance to REBUILD a program. Now I don't mean someone that you think can just come in and bet a good coach, but someone that will bring a defensive minded coach better than Chavis, an offensive coach better than Cut AND someone that can recruit better than Trooper.
Are there people that can do that? I'm sure there are....but by God, we better make sure we get someone that can bring a package in or else we will be starting over.

We may find that coach that comes in and wins with the old coaches players. Hell, Myer did it at Florida. But chances are the new coach/coaches will need time to rebuild a program. May not take long (DEPENDING ON WHO UT GETS), but it may take a few years. Be prepared for this if a new coach comes in. And remember, no guarentee the "new coach" wins anything.

Finally, my overall point is why blab now? Whoever asked me if I was satisfied with mediocrity I'll answer a big !@#$ NO! But what good does that do right now?! nothing. Support the coach and commend him for doing what his job is right now and that is making adjustments for the S. Miss game. Which he's done.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 4:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UK will be 8-4 at best. You won't beat Arkansas because they're goint to run over your D. You'll probably lose to L'ville though I hope you don't. LSU will...

That's three games you're more than likely losing... and I just don't see you winning more than 2 much less all of these: Vandy, UGA, UF, UT, and USCe.

Not out of the cosmic realm of possibilities but... not very likely.

Posted by GreerVol22 on September 5, 2007 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I say let Coker play on punt and kick off coverage. Maybe he's fast enough and can cover a stupid kick.

I don't know if I'm startin' it or finishin' it or its somewhere in the middle, but rumor has it Bill Cower laughed at Hamilton when he made the inquiry of interest. Cower supposedly said "Put Pearl's million with the Fulmer's salary and his donated million and I might give you and interview,"....just kidding obviously...

Posted by grvol on September 5, 2007 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Twelve games UKLOSER? You call Eastern KY a game? I just can't count a I-AA basketball school as a legitmate opponent. Louisville, AR, GA, SC, LSU, FL, TN and maybe even Vandy will be L's. Kent State? FIU or is it FAU? Do you play MS State? That will be a toss up.

Posted by 55Vol on September 5, 2007 at 5:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UK..... your spaced man. You will not beat Louisville, Arkansas,Fla., Georgia, LSU or TN. Our b-ball team could beat your football team. Woodson is a fluke. He will not play much if at all on Sunday's...at least not as a QB. Eastern Kentucky.... they used to rule the OVC..... kinda like pushing your little brother's girl friend around. Keep Brooks, Gillispie, whoever. Vols rule UK.

Posted by whistlinwingman on September 5, 2007 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I never thought I would see the day as a die hard UT fan, that vandy would beat us ('05). Kentucky thinks they have a chance of beating us (now). UT would put up 31 points and lose by 14 (last week). There is a great chance we might start out 2-3 (now in '07), and after that we still probably have to worry about bama, sc, ark, and ky. These are trying times for us VOL fans. But I am still here and supporting the big orange. Now I know how bama and georgia have felt for the past 10 years.

Posted by onecrazyvol on September 5, 2007 at 5:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey UKChamps......While you are dogging people's education about math (i.e. 7-4 over 12 games), make sure you get YOUR grammar right. "Most of you seem to be educated, your the exception." The correct phrase would be YOU ARE the exception. YOUR grammar is wrong. YOUR Cats might come through "Catlanta" on their way to Florida. But your beloved Cats won't be in the championship game. :)

Posted by footballfan on September 5, 2007 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why is there so much argument over whether or not to fire Fulmer? And what is this about he has earned the right to make things right? I must have been watching something else since the late 90s, but it seems to me that Fulmer has had one and a half good seasons since his national championship. I don't think it is even a choice for someone with any football sense. I have read over and over again about how all the fire Fulmer people start screaming for his head and how all of his supporters are tired of hearing it. Well my friends, there are only two ways you will stop hearing it. You can either don the earplugs, or, and I would much rather see this, Fulmer could start winning. Fulmer supporters are flabbergasted at the dissent for Phil. I say, I am flabbergasted that anyone would want to stand up for him. He is a decent man, decent husband, and a decent father. Good for him. That doesn't make him the right choice for UT football. He is a past-his-prime coach. Take a look at his career. He got to coach Peyton Manning, who make anyone look good. Then he got as lucky as I have ever seen any sports team of any kind get in '98. Since then, let down after let down has been the norm. Still, he has earned the right to make things right? You have got to be kidding me. I would love Fulmer as much as the next guy if UT was winning, but they are not. Henceforth, I see it as not only necessary, but all the more proper that the Vols find themselves a new football coach. I do not hate Fulmer. I applaud him for his accomplishments, as everyone should, but those past accomplishments don't give him any right to influence the future of the team. UT needs help, and lots of it. I would love nothing more than to see UT win. If Fulmer does it, then I'm ok with that. If he doesn't, then I'm ok with him being fired. That is the way most of us fire Fulmer people feel. For all of you supporters of Phil, I implore you to look over your Vols history the last 16 years and see just how much of a slip has occurred. Too much talent coupled with too few wins anywhere else in the world and he would have been long gone. I'm sorry to all those that disagree, but at the end of the day, if he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it.

Posted by sjt18 on September 5, 2007 at 6:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes. Fulmer has earned the right with blood, sweat, and tears... and anyone who's been around here knows I think this should be his last year if he doesn't get the job done. All the things you said means that he doesn't have the right to backslide after the decline over the past few years.

They don't mean that he shouldn't get his last shot at setting things right.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 6:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ok, Ok....What I meant by education was the idea that UK would win 4 games. That guy hasn't a clue. We beat Vandy and Ga last year and beat the Vols and USC everywhere but the scoreboard. I know that don't count, but we have more talent coming back then those two teams. I wasn't gettin on anyones math skills. And the guy that said Woodson was a fluke has some issues. Thats like saying Coker can't play in the NFL cause he has church on Sunday. Woodson is rated in the Top 3 as a pro-style QB by everyone. ESPN has him 1st team All-American. Wistinwingman said it best. UT is running scared right now. Ya'll got a lot to worry about. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll hush for awhile. It's a long season and I will have plenty to say once Southern Miss beats ya...

Posted by olozbal on September 5, 2007 at 7:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Anybody know how to listen or see the So Miss game without getting robbed through pay per view? Maybe an internet radio or even video? I'm in Georgia and it's only on PPV here.

Posted by UKChamps on September 5, 2007 at 7:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yahoo Sports. There is a broadcast tab that has everything, even old broadcasts and pre-game shows. Also has coaches shows and other programming. You can listen to Tennessee lose there. Here Kitty Kitty!!!!

Posted by andy112382 on September 5, 2007 at 7:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Everytime we don't do good, lets fire a coach, yea! Good thinkin' folks! That won't cost much and help bring in the best! Who wouldn't wanna coach here with that attitude! Woot!

Posted by atlorange on September 5, 2007 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

footballfan: good post. I don't know why all these FULMER lovers get so bent out of shape when you state the facts/numbers, like 14-11 and 2-7. I guess it is because deep down they know they don't have a legitimate argument.

I am NOT a FULMER hater, I appreciate what he did for this Team in the 90s, but the modern game has simply passed him by.

If he is able to turn this season around and post a 10 win (including a bowl win for a change) season then I will come back here and eat crow. I don't really think anyone truly believes that will happen. I am certainly not rooting against them as some have suggested. I will be there to cheer them on to victory this weekend. However, I do expect a barn burner.

Posted by vol52 on September 5, 2007 at 7:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Footballfan I do not know where you have been the last 9 years. It has been under achieving and a slow trend down. The Cal game does not give me a warm fuzzy. Coach Fulmer either improves or gets the heck out of Knoxville. The ship should not be in this situation. I for one do not want mediocrity. At the present pace we are headed to the bottom of the SEC.

Posted by jdoane1964 on September 5, 2007 at 7:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Were going to be 1-1 after Sat gunning for the Gators
a win at the Swamp and the Cal game all of a sudden is not the end of the season GO VOLS

CAPTIAN JACK

Posted by AFVol on September 5, 2007 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

back on the wire fellas
afvol is here to play

Posted by LazhilUT on September 5, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Our Kentucky PussyCat fan is right about one thing. Fulmer does ignore the arrests, the drugs and all the other crap our players do...they don't respect him and that is just a the tip of the iceberg on why this team is the way it is.

Posted by buxavol on September 5, 2007 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hefney & Johnson at the corners, Berry & Coker at safety, Gaines & Parrish as options at nickel.

Posted by footballfan on September 5, 2007 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sjt18, I apologize for not being able to respond to you earlier, I was a little busy. So, you contend that Fulmer has earned the right to have one last shot. Well I guess I need to ask you when that last shot is supposed to be. Will be after another underachieving year, perhaps so much so that it results in a losing season again? Or is a simple series of games in which the UT staff gets outcoached going to be enough? Sure they have been able to win some of the games where they do get outcoached by simply having better athletes, but can you imagine what these guys could do with better leadership on the field? I would guess something like, I don't know, maybe a championship of some kind. I think we can both agree that we are big Vols supporters. You have your opinion, and I have mine. You think he deserves another chance. I say his time to right the ship has ended when basing his job on past accomplishments. Again I say, if he can prove that he still has it then keep him. So far this century, he hasn't really done so. A few flashes over the course of a few seasons will never be acceptable for Tennessee fans. Fulmer or Papa Smurf, as long as it's not Spurrier, I don't care who is coaching UT. All I know is this, whoever it is better be a winner, a consistent winner. Otherwise, that person will see just as much scrutiny as Fulmer is now. The Vols have been outcoached and outschemed far too often lately. The talent level among other, once bad football teams is rising, which means talent will not win the games for you anymore. Preparation, intelligence, and some more preparation is what it will take to get over the top now. I would gladly say how wrong I was about Fulmer if indeed he was to prove me wrong, but he has some work to do. A win against one team here and another there is not going to impress me. Every coach can get a win every now and then. I don't expect Fulmer to win every game or to win a championship every year. I hope for it, but no one is that good. What I do expect is this: with the talent UT is able to recruit, there is no excuse for ever having a losing season, nor is there any excuse for being out of title contention in halfway through the season. That has happened a little too frequently in recent years.
Go Vols.

Posted by footballfan on September 5, 2007 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vol52, I'm not sure I understand you. You seem to think I am lost, however you seem to also agree with me that UT has not been very good in recent years. I think I have misunderstood your statement and therefore do not wish to respond to it. If you could clarify for me what you mean by 'where have i been' that would be appreciated, thanks.
Go Vols.

Posted by vol4jesus on September 5, 2007 at 8:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

olozbol go to utsports.com and click on multumedia. Then on audio/video. You can hear the VOLS for free this year as a gift from carrier. It is in the article on Neyland stadium changes.

Posted by whistlinwingman on September 5, 2007 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I see our little "Saban" poster must be finished with his homework and his mommy let him on the computer.

Posted by DaveVol on September 5, 2007 at 9:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I guess he finished the homework for one of the players. I heard they found a new use for sheep in AL...wool.

Posted by DaveVol on September 5, 2007 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does someone from kitten land even know what football is? They probably think it's something that Sen. Craig likes to play.

Posted by whistlinwingman on September 5, 2007 at 9:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They win 8 games last year and they think they are a national powerhouse

Posted by DaveVol on September 5, 2007 at 9:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They have Sanders and think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread! I guess they just don't know any better. He couldn't even get the OC job at Arkansas.

Posted by mjohnsonvols on September 5, 2007 at 9:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey footballfan thanks for being a non TN and Fulmer fan. I for one love coach fulmer. I have a question for you people who think you are a better coach than fulmer. Who do you want? Who wants to come a school that fires there coach for winning 8 or 9 games and goes to a bowl game. Fulmer won our first national title since 1950. Now you want to win one every year let me remind you my friend you have to have some luck to win a championship and they do not come around often. when is the last time GA, Arkansas, Auburn, Vandy, Kentucky, Alabama, South Carolina, Notre Dame won a National title. I think we have won one since they have. Let's fire our coach and win 3 or 4 games for 5 years ire that coach win 7 or 8 for 5 years fire him win 11 or 12 once in 5 years and maybe win a title. sounds like fun let me jump on this stupid fire fulmer wagon as well. Listen I want to win just as much as anybody but there are times when every program goes through a slump. Yes we have been in one since 2001 season. I think loosing to Cal should not end this season like many of you spoiled fans say it has. If we loose Saturday night I will jump on the wagon of Fire Fulmer. But if we win the next two I hope there would be a little jumping off the wagon. GO Vols! And just for the boys please everybody show up Saturday and pull for the guys. They work hard for us fans I think we should be extremly loud Saturday night.

Posted by footballfan on September 5, 2007 at 10:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Listen up mjohnsonvols. I have not attacked you so why would you want to attack me? I appreciate your enthusiasm for Volunteers football. Don't try and call me out as not being a fan just because I disagree with you. It's this kind of militant attitude in the world that causes all kinds of problems. Calm down my friend. There is no need to start a fight. We are both fans. We have that in common. Our opinions of the direction of the team differ. Is that really a reason to start calling me names?
Go Vols.

Posted by DaveVol on September 5, 2007 at 10:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's leave the name calling for ukchump and sabum.

Posted by bpvol on September 5, 2007 at 10:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mjohnson - I feel your pain and have similar ideas about Coach Fulmer as many of us do, marc-ash and others.

Having said that, I don't doubt for a minute
footballfans loyalty to UT and his desire to see us put a winning team on the field. He, like some others are frustrated with the last several years and don't believe Fulmer will ever get it done. But I believe we all share the common thread of blood bleeding orange....

We have 11 games left in this season and each game will help determine what happens at the end of the season and ultimately what my opinion will be concerning Fulmer and the other coaches.

But after one game, I am behind our coaches 100%

One other point concerning noise making at Neyland stadium. (somebody brought it up earlier) I have had season tickets for about 15 years and been going to games since '76, graduated in '79. Its hard to figure out. Sometimes as a crowd we are by far the most awesome in college football and others, even on big games, we are no-shows.. anybody care to comment on how or why that happens

Posted by utnutt on September 5, 2007 at 10:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK LETS FIRE FULMER. IF HE CANT GET IT DONE HE NEEDS TO GO,BUT WHO DO WE HIRE TO REPLACE HIM. GIVE ME SOME NAMES OF A COACH THAT WE CAN HIRE THAT WOULD LEAVE WHERE THEY COACH TO COME TO UT. I THINK SPURRIER IS THE MAN WE COULD HIRE HIM AWAY FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.

Posted by footballfan on September 5, 2007 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good post bpvol. We are all Vols fans.
Go Vols.

Posted by bpvol on September 5, 2007 at 11:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

utnutt - not sure by your post if you were being serious or you meant that sarcastically.

Either way, I live in Columbia, SC and Spurrier will most likely end his career there. First of all, I don't believe Steve will leave at this point because he is now gaining ground in recruiting and starting to build the program, at least according to him, we will wait and see how this year goes.

Secondly, Spurrier likes to go to a program that is down and take them to the next level.. I don't think for a minute he would come to UT where the expectations are what they are...

Your question has been kicked around for several days and the names most often mentioned are Doug Marrone and Urban Meyer...

Posted by imnotwithphil on September 6, 2007 at 1:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Will Coker be spark Vols need? Only if he can (1) play defense or (2) coach. For those of you heading to Neyland this weekend - enjoy the Smoky Dogs and $5 cokes - cause da Vols are gonna lose.

Posted by vol52 on September 6, 2007 at 5:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Footballfan, I believe I have read one to many post. GO VOLS

Posted by 55Vol on September 6, 2007 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

UK... I know it is a success story for UK in football for Lorenzen to be on a roster, but Ryan Leaf was also rated ahead of Peyton Manning going into teh pros. Leaf was a total bust. Woodson may play in the NFL but not long term as a QB. BTW, has Lorenzen won an NFL chanpionship or has he ever gotten a league MVP award? I'm sorry , that is name is MANNING, a TENNESSEE QB who UK couldn't beat. Ainge will waste the Wildcats also.

Posted by sjt18 on September 6, 2007 at 9:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

footballfan, Hopefully you're still around.

I have said that progress needs to be one of these three things:

1) Win the SEC

2) Win a BCS Bowl

3) Win 10+, play in the SEC CG, win a respectable bowl game

I'm not even real satisfied with that last one. If I were king (which I'm not), there would be absolutely no room for slipping back or staying the same. Anything less than 10 wins this year would be completely and totally unacceptable... but again, I'm not the king. Just a fan stating an opinion.

I respect Fulmer for devoting so much of his life to UT. I believe he has made some good, strong moves since 05 to move UT football ahead. The notion that the game has passed him by isn't reasonable either.

If anything, UT's off