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After a wild Saturday night that followed a wild Saturday afternoon in a wild college football season, Tennessee is in control of the SEC East.
The Vols snatched victory from the jaws of defeat thanks to two clutch Daniel Lincoln field goals and escaped with a 27-24 overtime win over No. 15 South Carolina at Neyland Stadium.
"A lesser team with a lesser spirit and a lesser will would have lost that game tonight,'' said UT coach Phillip Fulmer after watching a 21-0 lead turn into a 24-21 deficit in the second half.
And with a lesser foot, he might add.
Lincoln hit a 48-yard field goal with 5 seconds on the clock to force overtime at 24-24.
Then the redshirt freshman connected on a 27-yard field goal on the first possession of overtime.
South Carolina kicker Ryan Succop had a quick journey from hero to goat.
Succop's 49-yard field goal with 1:24 to play in regulation put the Gamecocks up 24-21 and appeared a likely game-winner.
The Vols, however, scrambled back, caught a couple of breaks and sent it to overtime on Lincoln's first field goal.
After Lincoln's second kick restored UT to the lead, Succop missed wide right on a 40-yard attempt to tie. A crowd that began the night at 105,962, finally had something to cheer about.
And - get this - a week after the disheartening loss at Alabama, Tennessee (5-3, 3-2 SEC) is in control of its own destiny in the Eastern Division title race.
The Vols and Gamecocks (6-3, 3-3) took the field knowing Florida had lost to Georgia earlier in the day, meaning the team walking out of Neyland Stadium a winner would be in charge of the East.
"We knew, but South Carolina knew too,'' said UT quarterback Erik Ainge. "They were in the same boat as us.
"This league is crazy. You're never out of it. We're back where we were two weeks ago.''
Despite an utter second-half collapse.
A 21-0 halftime lead disappeared as South Carolina scored on three consecutive possessions then kicked the go-ahead field goal. All the while, UT's offense managed 97 yards and three first downs in the third and fourth periods.
"Don't even ask me cause I don't know,'' said Fulmer. "We couldn't do anything.''
South Carolina outgained UT 501 yards to 317 and held the ball for 12 minutes, 50 seconds longer than the Vols.
"We made some yards and hit some passes,'' said South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier, "but in the clutch we didn't hit crap and we got beat.
"We played just good enough to get our butts beat.''
Four turnovers - two early, two late - undermined Carolina's statistical edge.
Eric Berry got the early two, each time giving Tennessee a short field en route to a 21-0 lead.
South Carolina, recharged by Blake Mitchell, who replaced starter Chris Smelley at quarterback, scored on three consecutive possessions to tie it 21-21 with 11:11 remaining.
And Carolina might have scored more but DeAngelo Willingham and Ryan Karl came up with turnovers in the final seven minutes of regulation.
Tennessee's offense couldn't get anything going the entire half but it scrapped together a drive in the final 84 seconds of regulation to get in position for Lincoln to send it to overtime.
Along the way was a 37-yard kickoff return by LaMarcus Coker, then a 17-yard-run-fumble-and-recovery that ended up safely in the arms of guard Jacques McClendon.
Finally, when Lincoln's 43-yard field-goal try to tie sailed wide, he got an unlikely reprieve when Tennessee was flagged for a false start.
Backed up 5 yards, Lincoln tried again and made it.
Then, overtime.
South Carolina won the toss and elected to play defense first.
After one first down, Lincoln hit a 27-yard field goal to make it 27-24, Vols.
South Carolina could get no farther than the UT 23 after Cory Boyd was thrown for a 5-yard loss on first down.
On fourth-and-8, Succop's 40-yard try to tie missed wide right.
It was an odd end to an odd night.
After going eight quarters without a touchdown, South Carolina got a pair in a little over three minutes to close a 21-0 deficit to 21-14.
The opening drive of the second half landed second-and-goal at the 4, but the Vols successfully defended three passes, taking over on downs.
Three plays and a Britton Colquitt punt later South Carolina was back at the UT 39 for another try.
This one prevailed when Mitchell scored on a 1-yard keeper with 5:41 left in the quarter.
South Carolina then whipped 86 yards in only six plays. Mike Davis took a draw play 29 yards for the touchdown to make it 21-14.
Tennessee still had no answer. Ainge's fourth-down pass at the Carolina 34 sailed long and the Gamecocks were back in business.
This time the Gamecocks motored 66 yards. Mitchell got the tying score on an 8-yard pass to wide-open Kenny McKinley with 11:11 to play.
Succop's 49-yard field goal made it 24-21, but the Gamecocks left just enough of a window for Tennessee to crawl through and force overtime.
Overtime seemed unlikely at the half.
UT's first score was a 2-yard drive after Willingham knocked the ball loose from Carolina receiver Freddie Brown and Berry scooped it up and ripped off a 52-yard return.
It took three cracks for Arian Foster to nudge the ball across the goal line, but UT led 7-0.
Three plays later, Berry intercepted Smelley and returned it 13 yards to the South Carolina 44.
The Vols were soon looking at a fourth-and-1 and went for it. A pass interference flag on the Gamecocks was the break Tennessee needed to keep the drive moving.
Ainge twice converted third-and-long with passes to Quintin Hancock and Austin Rogers, the latter producing first-and-goal at the 6.
Two plays later Montario Hardesty strolled untouched from the 3 to make it 14-0.
Mitchell replaced Smelley at quarterback. The change didn't immediately put any points on the scoreboard but at least Mitchell kept the ball out of Berry's hands.
A timely third-down stop by Karl led to a Carolina punt, which, in turn, led to a 72-yard scoring drive by Tennessee.
The big play was a 37-yard floater to Lucas Taylor. The payoff was a 5-yard TD to Josh Briscoe.
Tennessee was in command, 21-0, with 4:39 left in the half.
Or so it seemed.
"We've got to hang on some way,'' said Fulmer. "We've got to get to Atlanta.
"Because we control our destiny right now, 100 percent.''

Posted by ncdawg on October 27, 2007 at 11:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Go Dawgs!
Posted by mgoss on October 27, 2007 at 11:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, big win. Took recovering 2 fumbles and a false start penalty to pull it off, but we hung in there pretty darn good LOL. Glad there wasn't a letdown in the 2nd half. We are terrible
Posted by jandjhome on October 27, 2007 at 11:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It was Fulmer's chewing gum that did it.
Posted by LittleJohnny on October 27, 2007 at 11:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Glad we were lucky, because we didn't deserve it.
Posted by volsfaninBoca on October 28, 2007 at midnight (Suggest removal)
First i am happy the vols won. I must say however it was some kind of ugly. This defensive scheme simply does not work as we saw time and time again tonight and week after week. Runners become heisman contenders against us as do qb's and receivers. We now control our destiny but we really do not. Unfortunately we have to play another team and Arkansas, Ky, and Vandy all have a better than even shot at beating us. So we as fans are all set up to have our hearts broken again by some of the worst coaching in the conference. The schemes simply do not work. And for Coach Fulmer (who has done some great things for the university) to tell the television audience how our defense played their hearts out and kept us in the game in the second half is ludicrous--they just gave up 24 points to let SC back in the game. i will always pull for the Vols but i am absolutely exhausted following this game.
Posted by jobrando on October 28, 2007 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The defense came to play and won that game for the vols..
Posted by jandjhome on October 28, 2007 at 12:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We made a bad mistake by hiring Cutliff, he made some of the worst calls I have ever seen tonight.
Posted by tenken on October 28, 2007 at 12:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You know we won this game. No need to be negative. The defense gave up over three hundred yards but saved our butts the end of the game. Good job D, please continue to do that the rest of the season. Offense, you must play better.
Posted by lilmoorevols on October 28, 2007 at 12:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
sometimes it's better to be lucky than good
Posted by vol4good on October 28, 2007 at 12:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Which game were you watching Jobrando-- the D gave up 400 yrds and 24 pts in two quarters. They only showed up for the first three plays of the OT. Please dont misunderstand me. I am glad they finally showed up, but to say that the D came to play is really not so true. TN sacrificed 20 Irish Rabbits before the game. Just kidding-- They won and I am Happy for that, but the D had only a little to do with it.
Posted by picchic913 on October 28, 2007 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Always glad for a win, but geez. Ugly doesn't even begin to describe it.
Posted by Plasticman on October 28, 2007 at 12:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Boca, I have to agree.Chavis must change some schemes to give our pitiful DB's a chance because they are LOST out there! Even though we control our own destiny, there is NO WAY I'm making plans for Atlanta. THis defense is going to break school records for giving up the most points and yardage in a season. Not the type of defense that I would expect to get us to Atlanta.I hope they prove me wrong but I guarantee my hopes are not up about getting to Atlanta.
Posted by lilmoorevols on October 28, 2007 at 12:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
how many points are we going to have to score to beat KY?
Posted by cphil on October 28, 2007 at 12:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tonight was a classic example of good/bad coaching.
After mistake after mistake after mistake, the GOOD coach took his team to the locker room at halftime, made adjustments and got them fired up to play the second half.
After playing a good first half, the BAD coach took his team to the locker room at halftime and apparently did nothing more than tell them not to lose it in the second half.
Sometimes, it's nice to just be lucky.
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, the defense finally showed up at the very last minute but they were again schooled in the second half. This schizophrenia is maddening.
Cut called a pass play on 4th and 1? Hmmm...
Secondary was again shredded. And our run defense never took the field apparently...must have missed the bus.
Offensive line again protected Ainge superbly. But they couldn't open holes -- we had 101 yards on the ground. And balance? We had 45 pass attempts vs. 28 carries. I guess that's because we had no real running game.
But we won. Congrats Vols! My hat goes off to Erik Ainge, who is a superb college QB. This guy is Mr. B. Kool back there.
Posted by arkyvol on October 28, 2007 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
i'm happy for the win, but in the long run, this team will be remembered, if at all, for one of the worse defenses ever to wear the orange. i do believe that's a lost art in knoxville.
Posted by Rok_Etop on October 28, 2007 at 12:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hey Spurrier!!!! You can't spell Suck without a U, S, and a C!!! Phil, David and John. Get your tails to work!!! 24....7 for the rest of the season. No SEC Champ Game, no job next year!!!
Posted by kdaff51 on October 28, 2007 at 12:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Im starting to feel like a man on death row that keeps getting a stay of execution. DAMN what a game!
Posted by cstewart81 on October 28, 2007 at 12:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They ran the same play that didnt work the entire game how they won i dont know it feels like a loss doesnt it. Just being real honest this ut team isnt that good they are young yes but the coaching staff has no trust in the young players espeacially the WR can someone stretch the field I know that they have WR that can do that i mean this is the 8th game and they still dont know the offense i hope they win out but they have to start playing a lot better than that. lets go UT they almost didnt score in the second half again. man im down.
Posted by bcmelton on October 28, 2007 at 12:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In the words of "Iron" Mike Ditka, "I'll take the luck, I'm tired of the skill." How appropriate.
Posted by eb502us on October 28, 2007 at 12:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We won, which is really all that counts. However, it would be nice to know how much better this team could be with proper coaching. For those Fulmer and Cutcliffe supporters, say all you want, but neither has a clue. Cutcliffe might be a great QB coach (like Sanders), but he's horrible as an OC. If Fulmer survives this season and isn't given an ultimatum on bringing in some new offensive and defensive coaches, then perhaps Hamilton needs to go as well. One good hire (Pearl) doesn't make him a genius.
Posted by agentorange on October 28, 2007 at 12:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
heckuva win. those charts worked like mofos.
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Chavis seemed absolutely gobsmacked and lost in a fugue of bewilderment in the second half.
I feel for the man because he's a fighter and has fielded some of the best UT defenses of my lifetime.
(Fugue: a dreamlike state of altered consciousness that may last for hours or days.)
Or a college football season...
Posted by volfaninchattanooga on October 28, 2007 at 12:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I love beating Spurrier, Our defence doens't have a clue, but they did come up with 4 big turnovers. Don't know what happened, but any win over SC is sweet to me. I live in SC for 5 years, they are the most obnoxious fans in the world, believe me, I know. Ugly, ugly game, but at least we won. I'll enjoy this one because we beat SC. I'll worry about Arkansas in 2 weeks. Go Vols.
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 12:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, agent -- it was clearly te charts that made the difference in this game. Clearly gave us our edge.
LMAO.
Posted by Pullingguard on October 28, 2007 at 12:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
How did Cutcliffe get his resume' of being an offensive Guru. His play calling stinks, last week and tonight... He and Chavis must be hanging out together recently.
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They should absolutely turn the next game over entirely to Crompton and the subs, the guys who never play. Let 'em all play and get some serious reps.
The coaches might find some players, especially on defense. How about Trooper's "spotted gazelle?"
Posted by clcvol on October 28, 2007 at 12:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The D was decent tonight, but the offense's inability to do anything in the second half hurt the defense. The team that scares me the most in the future is Kentucky. With our young DB's that can't seem to stop a pass, woodson can easily rip us apart. The only thing that will save us against Arkansas is the fact that they are one dimensional. But that still requires us to stop two great running backs.
Posted by txsvol on October 28, 2007 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am so happy for our players. They played as well as our coaches prepared them to play. But, having watched the game, which team do you really think left it all on the field? That little cornerback with the military name was the best player on the field, and as Patrick and Blackledge said, he should be promoted to Major. I wonder if the score would have been different if cramps had not have set in. Well, again we control our destiny for two weeks, before A. Foster has a chance to fumble it again, Nutt's defense stops our running game, and Chief has his defensive masterplan thwarted by those brainy, brawny Razorbacks, McFadden and F. Jones. No coaching raises or extensions for 7-5 or 8-4, Hamilton. We need cap space for the buyouts! Go Vols! SAVol
Posted by utmdm on October 28, 2007 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes the charts - guess I have to apologize - Ha.
We should have some fun people - it is a win.
lilmoore, I don't think there are enough points in our bag for KY unless KY just tanks.
I thought Neyland was rolling in the grave over our kicking game the past few years. But this defense - even with losing 2 backs preseason and 2 out with injury ... Then again it is hard to figure out exactly what our scheme is - Blitz with coverage playing off??
What is with the passing on 4th and short? The announcers were even is disbelief.
Posted by gmccown007 on October 28, 2007 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"jobrando"
You, obviously, love the VOLS. As, tragically, so do I. But, partner, exactly what game were you watching?
"The defense came to play and won that game for the vols".???????????????????
All I can say is bless BOTH of our no doubt "lost" and forever to be tortured hearts. And may GOD have mercy on us both.
Posted by bcmelton on October 28, 2007 at 12:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
volfaninchattanooga, are you Canadian, or just a hockey fan? "Defence" haha lol
Posted by cphil on October 28, 2007 at 12:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Guys, did I miss something this week? Hardesty finally gets in the game tonight and was the first back to actually look good for us in the game. The announcers on ESPN kept talking about him having an ankle injury this week, then sure enough, after he scored the touchdown, he disappeared again.
When/how did he hurt his ankle?
Posted by utmdm on October 28, 2007 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
They are saying surgery for Johnson also.
Posted by Plasticman on October 28, 2007 at 12:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I love Hardesty but I think he must have been born injured. He has been injured since he arrived in Knoxville. I hope he gets healthy someday and stays healthy because I think he truly could be our best RB..
Posted by FWBVol on October 28, 2007 at 12:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The Vols seemed to have the game in control until Mitchell started making plays at quarterback early in the third quarter. I tip my orange cap to the kid, he's a warrior. The same pressure UT was using to rattle Smelley and pick up key sacks, didn't phase the 5th-year senior.
Just as the SC offense fed off Mitchell, it carried over to their defense.
With poor field position on UT's first possession of the second half, it seemed smart to go conervative on that series, but after that it things just snowballed.
I question the offensive interference call against Chris Brown that took away a first down. Yes, he pushed off the defensive back, but I don't know the ball was in the air at the time. From my living room, it didn't look any worse than the pushoff Alabama's DJ Hall got away with on one of his TD catches.
That said, speaking of Hall, I'm great concerned about the secondary. Last week Hall had a career game againt us and this week the SC kid did. Maybe the coach that needs to bite the bullet is Larry Slade in the secondary.
I respectfully disagree with those who question Cutcliffe as an offensive coordinator and play caller. Nobody seemed concerned about the play calling when UT handed it to Georgia and lit up the scoreboard. I will say though, if you can't get his name correct with as long as he's been a part of the UT program in his two tenures on the HIll, it's not "Cutliff," don't rip the man's coaching ability.
Did we get lucky tonight? I think so, but I'm not complaining. I'll take a lucky win any time.
FYI, Fulmer is now 2-2 in his last four meetings against Spurrier and has won 3 of the last 4 against Mark Richt and Georgia.
Posted by Hunter on October 28, 2007 at 12:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Could we not just have someone on the defense stand 15 yards from the line of scrimmage in the center of the field???? They threw it there seemingly dozens of times and we seemed surprised every time. Also, is there a 10 yard "halo rule" now for receivers? Apparently the conference told Chief about it, but no one else!
Posted by chefjorge on October 28, 2007 at 12:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm in the we didn't deserve the win camp. We can't tackle, cover or run with any consistency and are generally uninspired. I've just about had it with bad football, no sense of urgency football. I'm never rooting for us to lose, but I think the decision on if Fulmer stays or goes should be based on the actual product, not how lucky it is.
Posted by Plasticman on October 28, 2007 at 12:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hope Coach Fulmer thanks the lineman that had the illegal procedure penalty on the missed FG that allowed Lincoln another chance....
Posted by raynochonspeed on October 28, 2007 at 12:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
All the negatives are obvious, and I could spend an hour railing against the coaches, but as a change of pace for this board, let's focus on the positives:
DeAngelo Willingham - forced 2 fumbles
Eric Berry - 1 fumble recovery (and great run), 1 INT, should have had Karl's INT had it not been for Hefney - in my opinion, UT's best open-field runner/playmaker with the ball in his hands
Gerald Jones - 2 great, athletic catches - he looks faster than anyone else on the field when he's in
All above are first-year players. Our future looks outstanding; 2008 could be the year.
I predict Fulmer has a one-year stay of execution, caoches 2008, then hands the program to Cutcliffe and Trooper (who will need to become more involved in playcalling to make that next step).
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 12:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Great idea. Let's play Crompton more. He's totally impressive every time he touches the ball. Let's see ... Crompton has 8 passes this year, 2 interceptions. 1 fumble. I'd love to see more fumbles and picks.
I see where you guys are coming from. If you keep writing that we have no chance, over and over, every game, every week, you are correct every so often and then you can feel like you know football. Brilliant strategy. Very impressive.
Posted by FWBVol on October 28, 2007 at 12:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree we probably didn't deserve to win, but I don't think any UT fan will turn it down (OK, maybe those calling for PF's head will). I'm going to enjoy it for now and forget how ugly it really was. GO BIG ORANGE!!
Posted by JDvols on October 28, 2007 at 12:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Vol coaches, outstanding halftime adjustments! I'm glad we won, but must we continue to look so inept?
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This orange kool-aid is FANTASTIC!
Posted by FatherVol on October 28, 2007 at 1:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Rayno, WHO will the QB be in 2008. Since 2001 I have sounded more like a University of Memphis fan since I find myself saying, "Next year's the year..."
Posted by ONUV on October 28, 2007 at 1:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
fire fulmer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 1:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Poke fun if you will. Adjustments be damned. Both teams had many opportunities to win. They played on the same field. Same conditions. Same officials. Same # of players. Fulmer on one sideline. Spurrier on the other. Tied at the end of regulation. SC wins toss, plays D. UT has their turn. Gamecocks have theirs.
WHO BLINKED??? Come on, haters ... WHO BLINKED??
Posted by raynochonspeed on October 28, 2007 at 1:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
FatherVol: Crompton will get his shot, but I've read Cut mentioning that BJ Coleman has the best potential on the roster and that Coleman spends more time breaking down film than anyone he's seen since Peyton.
The QB doesn't need to be great, just efficient and effective. All RBs and WRs are returning, as is most of the offensive line.
Our receiving corps should be electric next year, especially if Eric Berry gets some looks there (which he should).
Posted by Oenoboy on October 28, 2007 at 1:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)
ONUV...hmmm...must stand for Overly Negative Uneducated Vol-hater. Right?
Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on October 28, 2007 at 1:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
501 yards against our (alleged) defense, 300 in the air. Our prevent defense didn't.
Our offense was offensive, too, in the second half -- 70 total yards.
We all know how close we came to losing this game (Foster's fumble, SC missed FG). One play away from an orange lynching mob.
Yet here we sit, with a chance to go to Atlanta. Unbelievable.
I sure wouldn't want Fulmer's or any of the coaches' jobs.
Posted by jhenson on October 28, 2007 at 1:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog...You have every right to be a blind loyalist and support your coach, but I'd suggest you study the stats since 1999 (our last SEC championship...btw) before continuing to make ignorant comments such as... "I see where you guys are coming from. If you keep writing that we have no chance, over and over, every game, every week, you are correct every so often and then you can feel like you know football. Brilliant strategy. Very impressive."
Ok Slo (fitting name btw...)
Here's what's not impressive...
Only two bowl wins since the National Championship, lost over half our games against top 20 teams, a 5-6 season mixed in, and just generally ugly fotball.
So yeah...any time we play a good team, I'll contend we will probably lose and the stats say I'll be right more than I'm wrong.
I'm glad we won tonight, because I'll never pull against UT, but dude surely you're smart enough and know enough about football to understand we will lose more games than we win, against good teams, playing like we did tonight.
Posted by jhenson on October 28, 2007 at 1:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
mbumburu...No doubt! Unbelievable. Funny thing is...my SEC championship tix came in the mail this week and I didn't think there was a snowballs chance in hell I'd be using them. Honestly, I still don't, but who knows...after a 5 touchdown loss to Florida and a 3 touchdown loss to Bama, we don't really deserve it, but...we once again control our own destiny. Hard to imagine we can continue playing this poorly and win out, but what the heck....GO VOLS!
Posted by cphil on October 28, 2007 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog, the bottom line is it should NEVER have gotten to the point of being tied at the end of regulation. We have a far superior talent pool to USC. In spite of the coaching, or lack thereof, we had the 21-0 lead at halftime. Instead of getting the team up to come out in the second half and continue to play aggressive ball, they came out flatter than roadkill on I-40.
Who blinked? I did for the entire second half, as I bet most Vol fans did...in shock yet again.
Posted by gmccown007 on October 28, 2007 at 1:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
For those of you who still have a copy of our 1998 National Championship year OVERTIME defeat of Florida (and Spurrier)I give you a point of stunning, almost EERIE fascination. That game, too, ended with us winning in OVERTIME on a missed field goal (Final score Tennessee 20 Florida 17). That, though, is not even remotely the point. The point is this. Tonight, from the moment the ball leaves the kickers toe until it ends up in the fans hands, EVERYTHING about the kick is 110% IDENTICAL to the kick of 1998! I mean, not just that that kick too was a "push" --- with absolutely identical FLIGHT, TRAJECTORY, etc. ---but if you "count" LEFT to RIGHT (from the right most goal post) as well as UP and DOWN (that is, account for all the consequent ROWS of seats) the ball ends up in the hands of effectively the "same" fan.
Now, other than the remarkable oddity of all of that, what does any of this really "matter"? Well, regardless of just how deeply we admitted FANATICS love our VOLS, there is not a single one of us, if you are genuinely honest --- no matter how "DEVOTED" you may be --- who isn't "forced" to concede that we --- in no way --- genuinely DESERVED to win tonight's game!!! Thus, we would seem to "need" the intercession of some sort of HIGHER POWER. Say, perhaps, like whatever "author" of the "event" I have just outlined for you.
Let it be said, though. I am not even remotely tempted to give the victory back. Say, to forfeit the game to Spurrier. After all, how many times have we been on the other side, suffering all the torments of the damned?
Posted by agentorange on October 28, 2007 at 1:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
WE WON! That used to be a good thing no matter what. There are no style points. Is anybody posting on here more than 10 yrs old? doubtful. Fulmer has the highest winning percentage of coaches with 10 years experience. If you want to fire a guy with that plus an nc, you're dumb. enroll at UT for a semester or two and learn something. you'll get free fb tix too.
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 1:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You the muppet guy, jhenson? Cute screen name.
I'll leave the stats to you and the likes of Pennington. Players play games and look at the results. Nonplayers live in the land of stats.
As to my screen name, it govols spelled backwards. I'm sure, from reading what you've written, that you are ever so familiar with "backwards".
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 1:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
What do you have to do to deserve a win?
Posted by 10ACVOL on October 28, 2007 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Anybody else see ol' Kevin Simon on the sideline during the game? NICE
Posted by JDvols on October 28, 2007 at 1:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog: It’s not about who blinked. With the overtime rules being what they are, inevitably one team or the other will win. That’s not the point. If you have a 21-point lead at halftime, it should never come down to overtime. If not for SC’s own mistakes in the first half, we likely would have had only a marginal lead at halftime, if at all. Adjustments should have been made at halftime because we were playing poorly. If any were made, clearly they did not help. SC put up 400 yards of offense in the second half and our offense did not perform much better than the defense. We were very fortunate to escape with a victory.
Posted by Oenoboy on October 28, 2007 at 1:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jhenson, I'm still looking for coaches who have a better record against top 20 teams over the last 7 years and have played half as many top 20 games. Care to back up your crap?
Posted by Oenoboy on October 28, 2007 at 1:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JDvls, did you forget the Georgia game last year? Was that because of poor coaching?
Posted by nicksjuzunk on October 28, 2007 at 1:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Old Timers:
Can you ever think of a crazier Tennessee game. I'm 27 years old and the only thing that comes close for me is the 97' Arkansas game when Stoerner (spelling) laid that ball on the ground like a nice fat loaf of bread.
Any takers? Is there one that pulls the emotions like this?
Posted by eefor10c on October 28, 2007 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Fulmer won! Spurrier lost!! Get over it Fulmer haters.
Posted by shaymous on October 28, 2007 at 2:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
amen eefor10c
Posted by cphil on October 28, 2007 at 2:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
eefor10c, et al, first off, Fulmer didn't win. He got lucky. The players that didn't give up won.
It amazes me how a win will bring the Fulmer fans back out from hiding their faces and getting brave again. Y'all need to understand what I feel is the most salient fact in all this "Fulmer needs to go" issue. I feel most all of us that feel this way harbor no hatred of the man. To the contrary, I think he's basically a good man who's done a lot for the university, both as a player and a coach. However, it's our love for UT football that has brought us to the point of realization that it's past time for him to move over and hand the reins to someone else. For whatever reason, he can no longer motivate, he can no longer make the strategic moves in a game, he can no longer get the performance from the players who clearly have the talent.
Personally, I despise seeing the name calling regarding Fulmer. It's unnecessary when the facts provide all the ammunition to make the arguments for him to be replaced. His waistline has nothing to do with his coaching, nor does his love of hot nows from Krispy Kreme.
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 2:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
JDvols-
Did SC have fewer opportunities to win than UT? Did SC play the game on a different field? Were they allowed fewer timeouts? Fewer downs? Did they play with a heavier ball? Were their shoes too tight? Helmets too loose? Jocks too ..... what was the problem?
Had you played in that game, you would be relishing the win. That's what athletes do. Press guys and geeks lament over "ifs". "If not for SC's own mistakes in the first half", blah blah blah.....
The two teams faced off in Neyland and the 'cocks are draggin' a$$ back to Columbia. Good riddance.
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 2:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
In fact, all you guys that lament the win tonight are welcome to go to Columbia and hang out with Saint Steve and see how he feels about the game.
And it's not a matter of feeling "brave again". I'm here rain or shine.
Does anyone know whether Krispy Kreme makes an orange kool-aid flavored doughnut?
Posted by newtonrail on October 28, 2007 at 3:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Tenn. didn't deserve to win" BS!! I just drove 2 hours back from the game and screaming my lungs out, and I can't believe some of the posts I've read. Of course we were playing the #1 Pass defense in the Country, and they made Erik look bad at times. Mitchell made our young secondary look bad at times. But SC also made plenty of mistakes, most forced, and as Spurrier said afterward, Tenn executed when we needed to and SC didn't. Was it a sloppy win? Sure. But we still deserved it, and my raw throat and the people (except a couple of SC folks) screaming around me that cost them in the OT deserve it.
Posted by hglover40 on October 28, 2007 at 6:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I wish we could find the defense that lined up against GA!! Not sure, but looking at the way we've played on defense since GA, I bet we didn't play so great, but GA was really bad at that point in the season. I'm not one of the haters; I think Fulmer has been a darn good coach, BUT we will surely not win out unless something changes on defense.
Posted by RocketVol on October 28, 2007 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Don't even ask me cause I don't know,'' said Fulmer. "We couldn't do anything.''
Well, now Tennessee has played like they did at Florida/Alabama and against Georgia all in one game - what Jekyl and Hyde act is next? I will tell you Phil, since you don't know, what happened in the second half - terrible play calling that put your men in bad low-percentage positions.
This team is the only team in the land that in 4-down territory calls two low-percentage, 10+ yard pass plays in a row on 3rd down and 3. UT play calling is attrocious and has been in big games since 1994. These "drives" reminded me of the last series of downs against Florida last year - stupid, low-percentage, large gain attempts when only short yardage is needed. Typical Tennessee - abandon game plan because Spurrier rams some touchdowns down your inept defenses' throat. Hit the panic button. I had flashbacks of playing his 90's Florida teams - or the last 2 SEC championship games (amazed I can remember that many years ago).
If not for the first half South Carolina miscues and the final gift from Succop (a Succop F#@!-up) this one was USC's. Seems Tennessee has no idea how to take charge of it's own destiny and win. It's always about hoping the other guy screws up. And once again - the coach making proper halftime adjustments was on the other sideline as the Great Pumpkin stood shocked with no answer.
Posted by andefromtn on October 28, 2007 at 7:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Even an ugly win is still a win.
Posted by yeavols on October 28, 2007 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If you have never believed in LUCK..this game was LIVING PROOF..because it sure wasn't skill.
Posted by 3rdtenn on October 28, 2007 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dear Fulmer supporters you "know it alls" disappear when the team plays like crap which is pretty often and it was that way in the SC game but theteam came out winners because a reliable kicker from SC missed a field goal he usually hits. Win one game and you come out of the closet You'll be back in the closet again this season
Posted by spencer1989 on October 28, 2007 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Like many here....I'm just thinkg we were plain azz lucky to get this win. Apparently the football Gods aligned the planets and stars right so that the pumpkin might salvage his job. I expect one more win (homecoming) and two more losses so I am not building any hope for going to Atlanta. Call it what you may but I am being realistic. I am so sick of the stupid play calling and the "pounding the rock" bulls___t plays. How many times do you have to run into a block wall to figure out it's not going to move. I'm trully amazed how the game was completely reversed in the second half. Tennessee should have had a loss here. Plain and simple they got beat in every area but the score. I love my Volunteers as much as anyone but I am tired of the lackluster game plans and poor coaching. I want the program to get back to where it once was and have the due respect. And I want a coach that can coach and get players motivated. We have only seen that a few times this year.
Posted by AlpharettaVol on October 28, 2007 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again we made a mediocre QB (this time one who is not even a starter) look like an All-American. For a team that had previously had a hard time scoring against anybody, they had a field day against us, making the second half look like a track meet with our guys dropping the baton. Thank goodness we have a freshman kicker who has not yet learned how to choke.
Posted by cnalumni on October 28, 2007 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
UT was very lucky to win this game. It wasnt about spirit as coach alluted to. It was Luck plain and simple. SC was the better team. They came back from 21 down and dominated UT in the second half. Ut just had some lucky bounces go their way.
Posted by KingsportVol on October 28, 2007 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
AlpharettaVol just wait until the Kentucky game.
Woodson could throw for 1000 yards against our D
How can some of you say we out coached Spurrier?
Down 21 and he made us look stupid in the second half.This coaching staff still needs to get the hell out of K town.Go Big Orange
Posted by jandjhome on October 28, 2007 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks next Saturday we become bowl eligible and then at least one win from the remaining and Ole Phil will be right back with us next next year.
Posted by ellisonfamily on October 28, 2007 at 8:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The SEC East is the best "conference" in college football (if it were a conference). We can complain about the ugly win (I am still concerned that our offense cannot play in the 2nd half), but surviving this year might be the name of the game. Survive and advance might be the philosophy of the SEC East. UT has done that so far. Unfortunately, we have one challenging and two very tough teams left. We'll see. But, let's not forget that everyone is falling out in the SEC East. It is the toughest "conference" in college football.
Posted by anyonebutfulmer on October 28, 2007 at 9:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A win is a win. I get that.
But I hate those who are saying or implying that things are OK with this team and this program due to the parity in the league. The fact that Florida has 3 losses has nothing to do with the fact that our team is poorly coached or the fact that we are getting beat quite badly in terms of recruiting.
Fulmer really lucked out last night. Chavis maybe even more so. He looked like a bewildered buffoon on the sidelines in the second half.
I also love Phil's quote after the game. Something to the effect of: "Don't even ask me what happened in the second half. I dunno." Really? You don't know what happened? Do you need us to explain it to you? You're defense flat out sucks! Once again we made relative nobodies (Mitchell and McKinley this week) look like Heisman candidates. Who is coaching this secondary? How does a guy get 13 catches? Does anybody on our team know how to cover? Why are we leaving people wide open? Since when do we need to give their best players a 10 yard cushion on every possession? Why is our defensive front so worthless?
Moving forward, I don't want to judge this squad against the rest of the league. I want to judge this teams vs. what UT should be putting on the field each and every week. And from where I'm sitting, this still ain't Tennessee football...
Posted by rootin4volz on October 28, 2007 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmm...Where has 99Gator gone? Who controls the SEC East NOW bee-a***es?!?!?
Posted by t_llong on October 28, 2007 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Whew...a win!! Exciting game. Just a thought though..everytime the defense plays agressive (not too often) they shut down the opposition, but how many 3rd and long plays do they give up? I have lost count over the years. Way too soft on the WR's every game..yes I know they are inexperienced but its time to step it up. Some of the offense's play calling was pretty strange also. Where are the leaders of this team? Still a diehard fan..Go VOLS!
Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 9:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
KingsportVol,
Well put.
Posted by 99gator on October 28, 2007 at 9:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
rootin 4volz
i do not talk trash on this site. don't bring it... because i have plenty more ammunition on my side than you do
congrats to tenn. if tenn blew that game there would have been hell to pay and rightfully so. this is an absolutely crazy year. i don't know how so many teams can look great or terrible from game to game, half to half or quarter to quarter.
for those who doubted me... (about hating georgia and fsu more than tenn) please refer to the first td by georgia yesterday. i don't want to hear any more about mark richt and class. but, he went to school at miami, coached at fsu and now is at georgia. even spurrier did not pull a stunt like that. that move will be in everyone's memory banks for a while. but, man florida got whooped. i have come to take georgia for granted, but they showed me (us) yesterday.
Posted by Oenoboy on October 28, 2007 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
There are 60 minutes in every game, ok 65 in this one. We won, we deserved it, the winning coach gets the credit for out coaching the losing coach, W is the only stat that counts, and you whiners really need to try and enjoy yourselves. It's a game folks, played by young men 18 to 20 years old. We're lucky to have them and they deserve better than fans who find a way to bitch about almost everything they do even after a pivotal win.
Sure, our DBs are in over their head this year. Three of them aren’t supposed to be starting and two are true frosh. It's true, they are getting schooled by some of the best coaches in the game, Spurrier, Meyer, Saban, and Tedford but I don’t see them hanging their heads. Personally, I’m proud of them and can’t wait for them to catch up to the speed of the game. Hopefully it’s in time for the UK game.
Posted by DSaVol on October 28, 2007 at 9:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A win is a win but I remain steadfast in my assertion that this coaching staff is an absolute joke!!! Chavis has no clue. If it weren't for SC turnovers the first half may well have been like the 2nd was. This is without question THE worst tackling team I've seen in college football this year. Cutcliffe is no more than a Spurrier wannabe - 4th and 1 and we're throwing???? Nice. Way to take that good ole "Tennessee football" right at em! Once again he abandons what was a solid running game in the first half and puts all his marbles on a ridiculous passing game that doesn't even use the middle of the field! And Foolmer, well he just continues to stand in his dazed trance dreaming of another box of Krispie Kreams and making halftime guarantees of "no letdown." Well Philip my boy if that wasn't a letdown it had to be a beatdown - again!! But don't you worry Darren McFadden - everybody has written you out of the Heisman race but the TN D is SURE to rescue your campaign in a few weeks! Just in the last two weeks, they've thrown JP Wilson, DJ Hall, Cory Boyd, Kenny McKinley and oh yes, don't forget that reclamation project Blake Mitchell into the race! If this season doesn't end soon there will be so many candidates it may only take 3 votes to win it!
"A lesser team with a lesser spirit and a lesser will would have lost that game tonight,'' said UT coach Phillip Fulmer. Maybe so "coach" but you obviously fail to realize that a BETTER TEAM WITH A BETTER COACH(ES) WOULD HAVE WON BY 35 TOO!!!! GET REAL FOLKS! THAT WAS NOT A GOOD FOOTBALL TEAM THAT WE JUST SLIPPED BY! And please don't spend any of your kids Christmas money on Atlanta tix or reservations cause it ain't gonna happen folks!
Posted by james on October 28, 2007 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
When S.C.'s QB looked bad, they changed and the new guy lite up the Vols. When Ainge looked horrible in the second half, he played every down. Do we ever think of changing or is the back up that bad?
A good ugly win. One that was needed. Hopefully this will jump start the team. Defense still needs a lot of help. Great to be home with the crowd.
Posted by cltvol on October 28, 2007 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We will win next week pulling away in 2nd half Then beat pigs with a big game from ainge. Will treat commodes like a 4 year old boy would - p*** all over the freaken plumbing fixtures that they are. ( Surprise W against kitty cats - their lack of depth will kick in -remember its Nov). On to ATL and probably a loss- but not a rout. Would love to get shot at bama - we will beat them. Then a drought belt bowl win (not in FL). This prediction worth what it cost you, maybe less. Govols. Been for them since first game attended in 1965 and not a coach hater. Spurrier way past his prime. Meyer looking like the Big West or Wild West or wacky wac coach that he is. Richt was on thin ice till yesterday. We will cycle up again in next 5 yrs with 2 SEC and @ least 1 shot @ natl title.
Posted by etbbfw on October 28, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Tennessee Game Ball should go to whoever made the false start on the failed field goal attempt to tie the game. GO VOLS
Posted by bcrooks3 on October 28, 2007 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'll take a win over shiney pants anyday...
As we say down here in Florida when the hurricanes are close...Expect and prepare for the worst and hope and in this case root for the best..
Go Vols!!
Posted by bloodrunsorange on October 28, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This game reminded me of several games with Alabama in the 90’s. They found a way to win when they got out played. I know how some of you feel about Spurrier, but if Coach Fulmer retires and takes and Assistant Athletic director job with UT, Spurrier would be the man I would go to until Peyton comes home. If I live that long to see Peyton coming home to coach. Go Vols!
Posted by tennisvol on October 28, 2007 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Lucky to win this game, but a win is a win.
Ainge played his worst game and doesn't seem to handle pressure very well.
Posted by jandjhome on October 28, 2007 at 9:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator Myer should win the award for the biggest whiner of the SEC coaches.
Posted by mtoms1272 on October 28, 2007 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This just prolonged the inevitable. No way we win the last 3 conference games giving up 501 yards a game.
Posted by 99gator on October 28, 2007 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jandjhome
to my knowledge... the only thing i have heard meyer "whine" about was the BCS. if there is something i am missing, please let me know. yesterday, he ducked questions about what georgia did. the only thing he said was that he told his players to remember it in the future.
just because whiner and meyer rhyme does not make him one.
Posted by jandjhome on October 28, 2007 at 10:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I was talking about his whining to the refs yesterday. Georgia kicked your butts and he could not take it.
Posted by jafisher92 on October 28, 2007 at 10:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)
We were fortunate to win that game (but I'll take it). The PI non-call against Mayo in the end zone, the Foster & Ainge fumbles we somehow recovered, their PK missing the OT kick and Willingham making a game-saving play by stripping the ball.... Someone said it best that the football gods were smiling on Phil last night.
slovog = 'govols' backward - I must admit your trollmanship is pretty entertaining.
Posted by vanvol on October 28, 2007 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
99gator
"just because whiner and meyer rhyme does not make him one."...no poet you.
Posted by TommyJack on October 28, 2007 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jafisher92: Ritalin is proven effective against that disorder.
Posted by jafisher92 on October 28, 2007 at 10:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Here are my criticisms of Chavis and the D. I'd be interested in hearing what you guys think as well.
1. One-Dimensional Strategy - He's all about blitzes, stunts and games w/ speedy (but usually undersized) LBs.... which is fine when you have the kind of NFL-bound monsters up front to dominate the line and keep OL off the backers and NFL talent in the secondary to play man. But without those guys it all falls apart and we get burned. So it seems that either we recruit an NFL team every year or we get the kind of performance we're seeing today.
2. Personnel utilization - How many big, physical safeties that can knock the snot out of people have we turned into undersized LBs who may or may not even get onto the field? How many 4/5-star LBs get turned into undersized DEs that get blown off the ball against teams w/ power running attacks? What about moving lights-out outside players to the inside (i.e., Mayo). Remind anyone of the brilliant Leonard Little to MLB move in his senior year? And is it possible that we could start developing some CBs that are taller than 5'9"? Watching Marsalous trying to cover DJ Hall last week reminded me of what Randy Moss's HS highlight tape must have looked like.
3. Fundamentals - tackling, shedding blocks, not getting turned around on pass coverage, etc., etc. etc. One thing I will give the Majors administration is that we had some of the most talented position coaches in the country. That seems to have really dropped off. They're good ol' boys though...
Bottom line - if you really look back on it, Chavis has been a joke since the day he was hired. He got some credit when we had Henderson, Haynesworth, Walker, et al in the mix, but my HS coach could have looked good w/ those guys to work with.
Posted by objk1 on October 28, 2007 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The run and shoot has never worked for a full season in any league beside high school.
This team needs to huddle up, run it up the gut with Foster and try to get Coker around the end. Please run some play action.
Give our undersized and obviously not aggressive defense some rest b/c every week they seem worn out in the second half.
Posted by jweaver3 on October 28, 2007 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
DSAVOL AND ONUV, Why so negative, Mike Hamilton doesn't read this site but he reads his email. Hint, hint. Also recruits read this site another hint. D you give San Antonio a bad name!!! Lets support the vols and the staff as long as they are the staff!!!
GO VOLS!!!
WIN OUT AND GO TO ATLANTA
TXVOLSFAN
Posted by slovog on October 28, 2007 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Trollmanship ... hmmmmm, nice made-up word.
Let's see here. Get the ol' word-maker-upper going for jafisher92 ... man this is difficult ... what's the perfect name ..... oh, OK ... here it is ...
... LOSER.
Didn't have to make one up. LOSER is already in the dictionary.
And yes, during the Majors era we had some of the best position coaches in the country on staff. For about a year each, until Majors' winning attitude led them to go seek employment elsewhere.
Quit whining. Be a man, woman, whatever. Just quit yer' bitchin'. You all sound like sheep bleating.
Posted by TommyJack on October 28, 2007 at 11:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
slovog: You familiar with the sound of sheep bleating, are you?
Posted by brdteton on October 28, 2007 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Hmmm, not happy when we lose....
And not happy when we win.....
When are some Vol fans happy???
Posted by MillisaAnn on October 28, 2007 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Glad we won though we have alot to work on.
Posted by volnmdtn on October 28, 2007 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Even though we won the game (or South Carolina lost the game) the Vols are still in serious trouble. Arkansas, Kentucky, and maybe Vandy all looking a the Vols defense and licking thier lips.I just hope we can hold on but would not bet on it!! Go Vols!!
Posted by Retiredvol on October 28, 2007 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am pleased to see UT beat USC however, if anyone thinks that we are going to win out and be the East Champions then I know they are drinking Kool Aid. We are 8 games into this season and the Defense is terrible. It is just as bad as the first game with Cal I see no improvement whatsoever !!! I find it very hard to believe the 11 on the field are the best that Tennesse has to offer. The offense is just as bad! Inconsistency!!! Terrible coaching and poor effort and performance by the players. UT has 4 games to play they will go 2 and 2 another disappointing 7-5 season. Hey Hamilton give Fulmer another 2 year extension you Moron!!!
Posted by Plasticman on October 28, 2007 at 1:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As bad is the defense looks , especially the secondary, I will concede to the fact that we have lost 5 players that would have started in the secondary since last season. However, it is still scary to think that what we put on the field is the best that we have (other than Eric Berry who is going to be an All -American). Can we let him return punts??
Posted by waterskier3 on October 28, 2007 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
here a quote for the kool aid drinking people... fulmer at halftime told a national aud that no would tn screw this up... no way would we have a let down......................... giving up 21 points isn't a let down???
also coach cut needs to go he did the same crap in the 90's and cost us a couple of championships... he says he going to be balanced but in big games he would pass to much.... he's still doing it... I didn't want him back and hopefully everyone else will see it also.
Posted by DCVolFan on October 28, 2007 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Lincoln seemed unfazed by his first wide-left field goal blown dead by the UT penalty. "The first kick, I heard the whistle blow and just decided to go ahead and kick it," he said. "I think Casey (Woods) eased up and was about to pull the ball up when I kicked it. We knew it wasn't going to count." http://www.govolsxtra.com/news/2007/o...
Lincoln's "miss" was just added drama at the end of the game. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call to keep our butts in gear and have a good tuneup against the Cajuns next weekend before slaughtering the hogs. GO VOLS!!
Posted by DCVolFan on October 28, 2007 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
PS-- did anyone else notice that ESPN GameDay didn't say ANYTHING about this game last night. Herbstriet & Corso both picked the Chickens because Spurrier doesn't lose two in a row, UT is down and out, etc., but neither said anything about, while they talked plenty about just about everyother ranked team's win or loss.
Posted by tngeoff on October 28, 2007 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
waterskier3,
Man. Did he really say that?
Posted by AlpharettaVol on October 28, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am a FFF (former Fulmer fan) who has finally become disenchanted with the way our team plays. Having said that, I wonder just how fans are reacting at other SEC schools where the so-called "Super coaches" are also struggling. For instance, Meyer and Spurrier both have three losses (same as us). Richt, Saban and Tuberville have two losses and Georgia probably should have lost to Vandy. Are the fans clamoring for their heads or do they just think that's the way it is in the SEC this year? If anyone visits their sites, I would be curious to know the mood elsewhere.
Posted by MiserableFloridaVol on October 28, 2007 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What happens if we get LSU in the title game?
Posted by AlpharettaVol on October 28, 2007 at 2:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mike Patrick is the equivalent of writing in all caps on this website. He needs to tone it down and not be so self-rightous. He needs to understand that he is not the official overseer of the officiating crew. Just try to get the names right and let us know what is going on between the lines. He completely missed the fact that on Eric Berry's return of the fumble there was a face mask penalty that gave us the ball on the 4 instead of the 8. I guess he was too busy talking to listen to the officials.
Posted by chrisw2967 on October 28, 2007 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
KingsportVol,
well done
year after year we are always depending on some other team to fall so we can have a chance to control our destiny , this coaching staff needs to leave UT now. everybody jumping back on the bandwagon to jump right back off after another lost. Spurrier out coaches Fulmer even when he gets beat by Fulmer. The play calling sucks on off. and def. No matter how you look at it this win it still does not take back the last 7 years of this circus.
Posted by linebam on October 28, 2007 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'll take an ugly win over a beautiful loss anytime!
Posted by fasteddy41 on October 28, 2007 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Whats the big deal about Lincoln missing the first attempt? I am sure he heard the whistle blowing on the false start before he kicked the ball.
Posted by chrisw2967 on October 28, 2007 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)
linebarger every game we have played has been ugly except for the Ga game , I guess 1 out of 7 isnt a bad % ,they will probably struggle against Louis. Lay or who ever this high school team is . they will pile up atleast 500 yds on this def. if they dont it will be there own fault.
Posted by vol52 on October 28, 2007 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
We now have a multiple personality team. Or our team could be like a box of chocolate. I felt the time out before the sc field goal was a waste. When Ainge go sacked we missed a good opportunity for a shot in the end zone. There was about 20% sc fans in the stadium. Seems like more people are selling their tickets.
Posted by yeavols on October 28, 2007 at 3:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde...Happy Halloween!
Posted by jcvet on October 28, 2007 at 3:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The Ky and Ark games are going to be very ugly. Vanderbilt may shut us out. We may get a very ugly squeak by that Louisiana directional school. What do we do after this season? Hopefully clean house.
Posted by asleep on October 28, 2007 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It's just a crazy year. We take a beating for the ages from Florida, but beat Georgia and MSU with ease. Then both Bulldogs pick up signature wins on the road over ranked teams. Go figure. At least the Georgia game showed us what our Vols are capable of if we play all 60 minutes. Still struggling with the offensive strategy. Early in the year, we looked ready to bust out like the Vols of the mid-90's but the last couple of games, we have really regressed. We've got to keep our sad D off the field, especially against a physical team like Arkansas. Go Vols!!!
Posted by asleep on October 28, 2007 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I live in Athens, Alabama and it was Athens High School alumnus Wes Brown who made the false start. God bless him! Of course, the whistle blew the play dead before Lincoln kicked it so I don't know about the kick being a "miss", it's hard to say. But what a stud on the second attempt! Go Vols!!!
Posted by FWBVol on October 28, 2007 at 3:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Yes, the Vols wet their pants most of the second half, and maybe it could be said UT didn't deserve to win. But, when you get down to it, neither did South Carolina base on the first half efforts. Should South Carolina tried to kick the field goal in the first half, probably, but that was Spurrier's decision. I haven't been to any South Carolina sites, but I would imagine SC fans are questioning they are second-guessing that decision.
Succop did make the field goal to give South Carolina the lead, but how much pressure was on that kick. If he missed it, they are still probably looking at OT. Lincoln knew he had to make his kicks or the game was over. When Succop had to make one that really counted (for the OT time), he choked.
Posted by ONUV on October 28, 2007 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
destiny my ass. pure luck.
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Posted by invisiblekid on October 28, 2007 at 6:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"A lesser team with a lesser spirit and a lesser will would have lost that game tonight,'' said UT coach Phillip Fulmer. Maybe so "coach" but you obviously fail to realize that a BETTER TEAM WITH A BETTER COACH(ES) WOULD HAVE WON BY 35 TOO!!!! I was about to post a similar comment DSaVol but you saved me the trouble.
Posted by GreerVol22 on October 28, 2007 at 7:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
ONUV...I second that. Ainge was horrid tonight, and the entire defense could not even line up correctly. There were times the DBs stood up and looked at each other to decide who to cover...and yes it was just after the ball was snapped...I guess thats why they play 15 yards off the recievers.
Posted by andy112382 on October 28, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well I am back from my trip to Knoxville to see the game and my streak is intact at 19-0, still haven't see my Vols lose in person! Sure picked a heckuva game to attend, huh?
I have to vent about one thing, though, how on Gods green earth did people leave when the game was 21-21?!?!? Yea, we blew a big lead, but to just jump up and leave liek that is pathetic, I was embarrassed to have visiting fans see some of our 'fans' being so fair-weathered. Yes, Fulmer hasn't been exactly getting people to jump for joy, but we won the dang game and it was tied! Maybe, just maybe, I could understand if we had gone down by 10 points or something, but even then........
Now, don't jump on me for this next comment, I have no one in particular in mind when I say it, so don't take offense to it unless you know you are guilty of it.....but a large chunk of the doom'n'gloom folks on here jump all over me and other when we question their fandom saying 'well I do go every game, blah, blah....' and junk like that, well, next time I see someone use that as their argument I will have to ask 'that may be the case, but are you that person that leaves as soon as things stop going our way? when the game is tied even???'
Anywho, had a great time, I hope my voice gets back before my training resumes tommorow! My voice was gone midway through the 2nd quarter! Good win, nice to be ranked once more (at least in the AP)
GO VOLS!!!
Posted by grvol on October 28, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Fire Fulmer.
Posted by SmokeDog72 on October 28, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Say what you want.
All that a win's a win crap. Or, the better team won. Or, we hung in there. Or, we got complacent. But, the bottom line is this: we have put together one decent drive in 6 quarters of football. All other point scored against SC were off of turnovers and kickoffs slanting the field. With our defense looking like a bunch of the disabled, that kind of concerns me. Before the offensive problems started, I thought that Ainge and Co. could at least put 25-30 on whoever (regardless of defensive and special teams shortcomings). Now, I am not so sure.
Posted by thevol on October 28, 2007 at 9:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Good job Andy, way to keep the streak intact.
It is sad to be a Vol fan this year, not because of the coaches, but because of the fans. We haven't even heard from the real haters yet either.
Fulmer doesn't deserve credit for wins , only the losses in people's mind. Spurrier outcoached because he came back from a 21 point deficit. But, wasn't it Spurrier's team that got down by 21 in the first place? Didn't he bypass a field goal and miss on 4th down? People are going to piss and moan no matter what. Georgia and Miss. St. were the worst teams ever when we beat them, but they didn't look so bad yesterday. Kentucky really looked like world beaters. I might have orange colored glasses but some people have black blinders on and don't watch football but just sit and complain. Whatever, to each his own. But, I enjoyed the WIN.
Posted by SmokeDog72 on October 28, 2007 at 10:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
MiserableFloridaVol,
You asked what happens if we get LSU in Atlanta?
Have you ever heard of "prison love"?
Posted by andy112382 on October 29, 2007 at 12:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks, thevol.....Good points, too. Our wins over UGA and MSU didn't mean a thing, like you said, they were just over weak opponents, we can't factor in their games this past weekend because that wouldn't spin the argument the right way in reinforcing the idea we have no chance despite being #1 in the east as we speak. It has been one whacky year, none of us know what is going to happen! You know the networks are happy, this just means ratings because no one is safe from an upset this year.
GO VOLS!!!
Posted by slovog on October 29, 2007 at 6:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm familiar, TommyJack, with hearing sheep bleat out your name, ,except they're bleating "Daaaaaddddyyy!".
Let's put it this way ... you better be glad you don't have a wool allergy or you'd have a serious case of jock itch.
Man, this orange kool-aid is STILL delicious. And the loser/haters are still ignorant.
Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 7:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh my! The kool-aid is wearing off and my head hurts! Where's that orange flavored doughnut I was asking about? Now THAT is the real Big Orange Sphincter. Yummy!
Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Any takers? No? Guess it's sheep love again for slovog this morning.
Did I mention I'm gay?
Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 8:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
You guys are still clowns. CLOWNS!
Posted by slovog on October 29, 2007 at 5 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ooooooooo ... now that's witty.
Not me that's adopted the "gay" thing. Guess slovogthegayblade has been hanging out with brokebackvol. Perhaps TommyJack and jafisher92 might be "buddying up", too. Maybe not. Who knows?!
Hey, Big Orange Country is big enough for all fans, even those like slovogthegayblade. Meanwhile, the real slovog is right here, lovin GIRLS and laughin' at weak efforts like this.
Posted by slovogthegayblade on October 29, 2007 at 5:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Oooooooo.... I'm so CONFLICTED!
Time to go back to the therapist! Focus. Repeat -
There's nothing wrong with that
There's nothing wrong with that
There's nothing wrong with that
...
Posted by volunhoosier on October 30, 2007 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
TN and BAMA on DEC. 1 in ATLANTA!
It's about time the teams that were meant to play in this annual game - play each other in the SEC championship game!
Who'd ever thought it would take the best two teams in the SEC (historically) 15 years to find their way to the top of their respective divisions - during the same year???
It could finally happen this year!
here's to a third saturday rematch!
ROLL TIDE!
GO VOLS!
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