Posted by Pocket_Passer on December 4, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jones and Berry in the backfield together would make a seconday very nosey. Much like Tebow does with his 'play action' when he fakes to run.

Could you imagine the options? Oh wait, who are they going to throw to? each other?

Posted by IPOrange on December 4, 2007 at 10:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John, I like the way you're thinking, here. Berry and Jones in the backfield together gives me a buzz just thinking about it. It probably won't ever happen because it's too progressive an idea, but you have my vote.

And I had the same question that you posed about Jones gaining 39 yards on two carries, and then not getting another carry. What's up with that? If we had run that package again instead of attempting to pass down there near the goal line late in the game, we would be studying film of Hawaii right now instead of Wisconsin.

Posted by rubbervol on December 4, 2007 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like these ideas and i also think we should start these with the bowl game.John Parker Ainge has had his good years,time to move on with the program and put some threats back in our game !!!

Posted by pdhuff on December 4, 2007 at 10:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

wow, "wild berry". I like it. Just let Phil fine-tune it down to where it'll fit the dink & dunk and I bet we'd cut that ole' Fla margin under 39 points. Turning this thing around already! Methinks this is not Cutcliff's bag of tea. Why not use the "anthill approach"? Snap the ball and they all scatter! I liked the Al Wilson defense, destroy 'em all, let God sort them out. Man, what hitting in the LSU game, where'd that come from? Berry & Jones, a two-headed fast Tebow. I can see the trophy case dusted off already. We'll get 'em next year. Rally under "Phil's 10 in a row has got to go". Fear the Phil, Badgers. Oh geez, its almost over. Merry Christmas!

Posted by rootin4volz on December 4, 2007 at 10:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Funny, but I was just thinking about this as I heard Doc, Jeff and Heather talking about the G-Gun this morning...They were saying that we, of course, went away from the "Davy Crockett Package" because it worked brilliantly the first two times and failed the second two, and that defenses could key on Jones once they figured out what we were going to do. But hey, put him in there to run an option and let's see how defenses fare against THAT!

Posted by BigVolinCarolina on December 4, 2007 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John Adams is smokin' crack if the thinks UT is going to deviate from anything other than what we've already seen. Let's face it: how many "packages" have we read about in the past--Eric Locke, Brent Schaeffer and now, Gerald Jones? These "packages" have typically been nothing more than 2 or 3 plays a game.

What UT needs is a renewed mindset: bust your tail and leave it all on the field. Our defense this year did turn it up a notch; however, giving up a ton of yards & nearly 28 points per game isn't going to cut it in the SEC.

And as for the offense, I don't believe that UT has resort to trick plays and overhaul the offense. However, we rarely have an element of surprise in our offensive play-calling. If you know the down & distance, you can almost best what we're going to do.

It all boils down to coaching! With the talent gap narrowing between SEC teams, the premium upon good coaching is all-the-more critical.

Posted by MANVOL on December 4, 2007 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I dont get on players but to say "he's UT's best pro prospect at the position since Peyton Manning." Is as crazy as thinking this coaching staff would consider anything Close to the "wild berry" which i like the idea. Eric will not stay in the pocket long enough for deep or intermediate pass plays to develope. If its Cutts coaching/teacning that has Eric counting 1.2.3 throw actually did his QB disservice. Pro QB's throw the ball deep.

Posted by chrisw2967 on December 4, 2007 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would like to see anything except what we have seen the last 7 years cause it does not work anymore.you can call it "wild berry" or "straight out of Crompton" just as long as they get out of the 1800s and get up to date.
I dont see them putting Berry back there, cause it just might work.

Posted by BigVolinCarolina on December 5, 2007 at midnight (Suggest removal)

"Straight out of Crompton"--hilarious chrisw2967!

Posted by burntorangeVOLffle on December 5, 2007 at 1:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Nothing is wrong with our pro style offense when executed properly. See the UGA game. Lucas Taylor leads the SEC in rec yards and that’s not by accident. It's even more incredible considering he's probably not half the pro prospect some other receivers in the league are.

The Spread Option is a fad in college football right now. Sure its fun to watch teams beat up on lesser teams with it but it can be shut down just as easily as any other offense. See WVA vs. S.FL or FL vs. Auburn.

And BTW, play calling is one of the most overrated criticisms of coaching there is. It’s all about execution. For every “bad call” Cut has made this year he’s made 10 “good calls”. My biggest complaint would be getting away form the game plan too quick sometimes.

Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on December 5, 2007 at 1:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Interesting, John, re the orangeberry spread. But, unfortunately, I'm afraid such radical thinking scares the daylights out of Fulmer and Cut.

Re your comment: "If you want to fault the offensive coaches, they're vulnerable on a couple of counts: (1) Either failing to recruit an offensive player sufficiently talented to have an immediate impact or failing to develop young receivers quickly enough..."

This point is personified by one issue that has stupefied many of us all sesason: what about Kenny O'Neal, who Trooper Taylor famously said is "faster than a "spotted ape?"

O'Neal was a JC player who was expected to immediately contribute at receiver. If you're not darn sure a JC can immediately contribute, why recruit him?

Tee Martin used to play 50-yard catch with Peerless Price. During games. For six points or huge gains at a time.

It was like those two mapped it out with their fingers on the ball in the huddle and the play called was "you go long and I'll find you...you jump up and catch it."

Tee threw it up there and Peerless found a way to catch it. Many times.

Not suggesting there's another Peerless Price anywhere, much less in Kenny O'Neal's uniform or any other current Vols uniform.

But if O'Neal's really that fast and can catch the ball, why not send him long?

Going long has nothing to do with receiver blocking and everything to do with explosive separation from the DB.

If O'Neal's that fast, Coach Taylor and Coach Cutcliffe, why isn't he being sent long? Why isn't anyboby being sent long?

Do we have nobody fast enough who can separate, get a step on a DB and stretch the bloody field?

Posted by nicksjuzunk on December 5, 2007 at 3:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

burntorangeVOLffle,

Your points are good. Especially about the play calling. It is obviously a factor... albeit one that is dramatically overemphasized. Our coach used to always say "Every play is designed to score if you execute it." It is kinda true.

Just like the defense is designed to stop every play for no gain... if you execute it. Except prevent defense... that is designed to blow a big lead into a loss.

Posted by CrankE on December 5, 2007 at 5:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I've got a revolutionary idea, rather than being a spread, fastbreak, run and shoot, fun and gun, yeehaw offense, let's get back to simply being able to run the ball with some authority. The glaring weakness of this team over the last several years has been in the area of rushing yards. Show me a team that can get it done on the ground and I'll show you a team that can take charge of the game and keep it for 60 minutes. Tennessee was never better than when they could run with quickness and power.

With a new QB to break in, now's the time for our coaches to simplify things and get back to this bedrock skill that we've lost.

Posted by DarthVol on December 5, 2007 at 6:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I would prefer our coaches learn how to STOP a spread offense, not incorporate it into their offensive system.

Our staff should run the offense they are comfortable coaching. I'll say it again...you don't have to be contrarian in scheming to be a good offensive football team. It's like when my wife tries to wear clothes made for women half her age...it's hard to pull off.

Posted by southernACmavs on December 5, 2007 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That would be great. But i would be happy if we could develop a WR . In 2years that could run a post. Why has Trooper been given a pass on developing player? Because he does the chest bump. Our WR corps are still not making the play when we have to make it. Blame players al you want ,sooner or later you have to coach them.............

Posted by GreerVol22 on December 5, 2007 at 7:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Great idea!...anything but Ainge...

Posted by why36knot on December 5, 2007 at 7:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams has been imbibing too much Liquid Berry Juice.
I some times have to wonder if he is trying to be funny, but even if he is... it ain't working.

Posted by vol4jesus on December 5, 2007 at 7:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

greeerVaultootoo lay off the the young man please. Yes he has made some big mistakes, but has also made some big plays we all cheered about. Lets pull together and put on those chin straps one more time versus the Badgers. GO VOLS!!!

Posted by vol52 on December 5, 2007 at 7:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We will never change. We do best with a dual threat QB (pass and run) but the coaches are not comfortable with that. They want the clasical drop back passer QB. Any thinking out of the box is above and beyond the coaches on the Hill.

Posted by Volker on December 5, 2007 at 7:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Line Berry up at every position. He's a gamer. Just give him the ball....Can he kick?

Posted by tip76 on December 5, 2007 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey John, turn it up a notch, maybe someone will listen!

Posted by LazhilUT on December 5, 2007 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He's right on. Someone messed up recruiting and didn't get a good WR...and tada this year we're ranked #40 so far in recruiting...
G-Gun for '08!

Posted by vols76 on December 5, 2007 at 8:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

why not the "wild jerry berry" or "wild berry jerry"

Posted by webbofconfusion on December 5, 2007 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It is great that you all like this crapola that john dishes out... Remember that Tebow got hurt and Florida lost 3 SEC games. Oh and Pat White... yeah he is hurt too... and they lost their last game, before getting a chance to play in the NC.

I say we shelve the dingleberry and pound the rock next year. Spread the field occasionally, but let's keep in mind that niether Florida or WV are playing for a NC.

Posted by vols76 on December 5, 2007 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

darthvol....if we incorporate the spread offense then our defense could learn to play against it better....you think!

Posted by leedsvol2007 on December 5, 2007 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The idea of Berry and Jones on the field in the same set is intriguing but how much that could be used might be a function of how deep our secondary is next year. Don't forget that Berry is running wind sprints on every defensive play. So for every offensive play he would likely have to have a defensive play off.

Anyone who has played in the backfield knows the quarterback position is the best to run from particularly if the option is involved. You see better and if the threat of a pass is there and the rush lanes break down it is easy to run to daylight.

On the other hand everyone on defense takes particular delight in laying a big hit on the QB. Tebow has the size of a fullback and was lucky to make it through the year unscathed and we saw what happened to WV when White got hurt.

I think with Crompton we will see some spread looks next year. It was obvious as good as Ainge played that with a bum knee, broken finger, and sore shoulder he was told not to scramble.

Crompton is bigger, stronger and faster than Ainge so some spread makes sense with him. And Jones is special so his role at QB as a change-up should be expanded. But how much Berry can or will be used offensively is up in the air.

We all like to talk about offense but to win games you have to stop your opponents at least one more time than they stop you. Berry is a big part of that process so he shouldn't be forced to take on a big offensive role.

GoVols!

Posted by cgbtn on December 5, 2007 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MANVOL, According to the announcing crew for the championship game, 1-2-3 throw is too slow. They said Cutcliff told them that in his "rhythm" passing game, Ainge is supposed to have the ball gone in 2.5 secs. Do some arithmetic and figure out how far your run-of-the-mill 4.3 forty guy can run in 2.5 secs. Clue: It ain't deep.

Posted by vol52 on December 5, 2007 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"A contract extension allows him to aggressively recruit the student-athletes that will allow the football program to hopefully bring home another National Championship for you – the greatest fans in America."

That is what Mikey said about Phil in his e-mail. Lets see how well Fulmer does with one added year of security. And a little extra cash. NC here we come!

Posted by vol52 on December 5, 2007 at 8:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How are the Outback ticket sales going?

Posted by firefulmer on December 5, 2007 at 8:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

chrisw2967, you nailed it---"cause it just might work." Our coaches are not smart enough to incorporate anything new. We run a play that gains big yardage, and we never see it again. We have a player that makes something happen, and we never him again. All we get is the usual "maybe we should have used him more."

Just wait and watch Wisconsin's quarterback. He's a fifth year senior, and we will get to see how a senior quarterback should perform. Ainge will still be scared to death from the LSU game.

Posted by firefulmer on December 5, 2007 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I want to know when Fulmer is going to give his "miracle" thirty minute speech to the Federal Reserve. I want the housing slump and the credit woes to end. Fulmer is such a genious, it might only take a "miracle" ten-minute workshop.

Posted by Southland on December 5, 2007 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

wouldn't it be wonderful to actually see a fun offense for a change. man, someone please email this to Cutcliffe although history shows that he studies other systems so he can reject them just like when the coaching staff went to the Titans to study how they used the tight ends after Nebraska stomped us in the dirt, but did they do anything differently, No that would make too much sense. Fun Fun article that made me giddy

Posted by TommyJack on December 5, 2007 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The Dink & Dunk is (already has) going to affect our recruiting of quality WR's. The good ones want to go deep

Posted by movol77 on December 5, 2007 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I like G. Jones. He is incredibly talented! However, someone better teach him how to tuck the football to his chest or there will be drive killing fumbles to come. It's scary to watch the ball flap out with his arm (tucked between wrist and elbow) while he is running through traffic.

Posted by juicetke on December 5, 2007 at 9:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Adams,

Are you available to coach?

Sincerely,

Mike Hamilton

Posted by waterskier3 on December 5, 2007 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

i'm so glad the season is over with... are you kidding me..... coach cut does get some credit but look at the games we lost and he never made adjustment to counter the defense knowing what ut was going to do...its amazing he can script the first drive and its always different plays but as the game goes on he goes back to the usual Bs offense that's been around for years...

we'll lose the bowl game, fulmer gets a raise, assit coaches get extensions and the FANS HAVE TO SAY WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR....... Nothing ever changes........

hey BB is here lets go read about some real winners

Posted by movol77 on December 5, 2007 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ESPN the Mag has Cutcliffe listed as the 3rd most intriguing assistant coach to be consider for head coach openings.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns...

Posted by Fred08 on December 5, 2007 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't wait to see Crompton at QB for the next 2 years. He should be able to line up in the G-gun somewhere, instead of Berry (he should stay at D-back IMO). Let's get Crompton and Jones in the backfield together. Both of those guys can run and throw...talk about keeping a defense on their heels...we could snap it to either of those guys on any down and expect fireworks.

Posted by movol77 on December 5, 2007 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What is Crompton's 40 speed? I know he's strong but he seems a tad slow. Perhaps it's just his big frame that makes him look slow?

Posted by Fred08 on December 5, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Also, I think we did okay against Arkansas' spread offense...did we not? I just don't think we were prepared enough at the beginning of the season...for any offense (see Cal game for reference).

Posted by grvol on December 5, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Will they put Johnson and Gaines back into the starting lineup at corners? Probably. If so, look for more embarrassing D against UCLA and FL.

Posted by movol77 on December 5, 2007 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Will Morley make it back?

Posted by agentorange on December 5, 2007 at 9:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Glad you're trying to coach the team now, Adams. ESPN's style of sports coverage has turned the sports media into fortune tellers, know-it-alls, and lynch mobs. It no longer report facts, interesting stories or gives many fact-based (ie reasoned) opinions. It's all tabloid crap, guessing and arbitrary ranking. Boooooooooooo on you.

Posted by KCSD on December 5, 2007 at 9:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ESPN the Mag has Cutcliffe listed as the 3rd most intriguing assistant coach to be consider for head coach openings.

Where, when, and how fast can we unload him. He's already tried that at Ole Miss and flopped. Get real.

Posted by hoskinsfive on December 5, 2007 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We should have ran that "coker" play with G Jones during the LSU game, they were over playing all night and It would have worked. You get this sense from Fulmer any kind of trickery is not respectable.

Posted by ellisonfamily on December 5, 2007 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

We are assuming Crompton at QB. Remember, we have a hot shot from Texas who could end up there. Next year at QB could hold some surprises. Also, I'm figuring that CPF does not read John Adams' articles to get coaching advice. Maybe that's too bad.

Posted by kkebean on December 5, 2007 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Far Too many poster's on here agreeing with Adams!!!!

Posted by marc_ash on December 5, 2007 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ellisonfamily, RIGHT....but it won't be Stephens, it will be BJ Coleman that will push Crompton for the starting job next year. Should be an interesting year next season.

Posted by marc_ash on December 5, 2007 at 11:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"what about Kenny O'Neal, who Trooper Taylor famously said is "faster than a "spotted ape?" Good point, if UT is going to recruit JC players, they should be ready to contribute. Think they threw the ball 1 time to Kenny in the CG and it was wide open if he had run the in instead of the out route.

Spotted ape....I forgot about Trooper calling him that. Thought there might be some controversey over that one.

Posted by grvol on December 5, 2007 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It will certainly help to have a QB who is not afraid to stand in the pocket long enough to use the vertical passing game, a QB who will move around some to buy time, a QB who will tuck and run for that needed 1st down.

Posted by rbhobbs73 on December 5, 2007 at 12:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The play to O'Neal was run right in front of me at SECCCG and I saw exactly why he doesn't play. He got jammed very easily at the line, nearly tripped, and then made very little effort to go after the ball.

When you see that kind of effort and hear the coaches say that he can't get lined up correctly on half the plays...it is easy to see he was a wasted scholarship..no matter how fast he is....

Posted by missrvrvol on December 5, 2007 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Good Article. Now if you could go to Fulmer and Cut and explain the spread offense to them, it might just work.

Posted by chrisw2967 on December 5, 2007 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

why are they (coaches) seem to be trying to make Crompton another Tebow ? Crompton probably runs a 4.9 40 , he is slow on take off and even slow at landing. I think he could be a good QB but I think running him will be a big bust. Im not bashing Crompton or anything but hes not a running QB.
Tenn never sticks to nothing that works because they have no confidence that it will work twice.
We got way too much talent at Tenn and alot of it is going to waste.
Fulmer dont care to run up the middle even when its not working , he will still run it.

Posted by ORANGEASIAN on December 5, 2007 at 12:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Adams is not only looking for a raise, but wants to be coach. What's next AD ????

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 12:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

chrisw2967,

Crompton running is like having an incredibly powerful fullback playing quarterback. The biggest mistake we've made so far (other than not getting him more playing time) is trying to convert a lion into a sheep. His power makes Tebow look like a 98 pound weakling. LET HIM POUND IT. The extra benefit? The guy can throw! For all the critics, go back and look more clearly at his performance when he played against LSU. Then, go back and revisit the recruiting madness for him. We were dang lucky to get him and he sure as heck played like a giant in high school. Go back and see. If we don't mess him up, he'll be like a ton of dynamite in an incredible backfield.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spin Crompton anyway you want but you can't make nonsense into truth no matter how hard you try. We are blessed with many talented athletes, but at quarterback next year? It will be Crompton and he will give us something we haven't had since Heath Shuler...a multiple threat quarterback. Then add the Jones at al and we have something very powerful...but it starts with Crompton.

http://rivals100.rivals.com/viewprosp...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan...

http://tennessee.scout.com/2/343808.html

http://tennessean.com/sports/ut/archi...

Posted by calvolfromkingsport on December 5, 2007 at 1:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff
I totally agree. I think Crompton will impress many next year. He is a big strong tough guy. He's got a great arm and he is quite the bulldozer.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

calvolfromkingsport,

Exactly! By the way...if you know where Watauga (not Watauga Lake - the Watauga community) is, that's where my Mom was born and raised. Great area of the world! No too far from Kingsport. She went to Science Hill (about million years ago of course) High School.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One last Crompton reminder:

http://rivals100.rivals.com/content.a...

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

calvolfromkingsport,

Actually I may already told you that about my Mom when we chatted about Southern California. Sorry for the repeated info!

Posted by agentorange on December 5, 2007 at 1:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007...

College playoff brackets. vote for Vols to beat Ohio State

Posted by LargeOrange on December 5, 2007 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff - Do you really think Crompton has more power than Tebow? I sure hope you are right. What does Tebow run the 40 in?

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange,

I do. He's heavier now too (I think around 230). If you get a chance look at the pounding he put on LSU's all star defensive back the game he played when Ainge was hurt. It was devastating. The problem is that the coaches tried to discourage that type of agressiveness so he "wouldn't get hurt." Just like with Tebow...YOU CAN'T DO THAT and get what you have. When you try to make a lion into a sheep you castrate the lion and he is no more. You should have left him for someone else if your gonna' try change who and what he is. LET HIM PLAY HIS GAME...that's what the heck we got him for.

Posted by DenmarkVol_aka_Mbumburu on December 5, 2007 at 1:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KCSD, you need to get your facts straight. You write Cut "flopped" at Ole Miss.

I'm no fan of Coach Cutcliffe but fair is fair: he was the most successful football coach at Ole Miss in recent memory. The Ole Miss donors were fools to let him go.

Do your homework before posting such nonsense.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 1:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way...included was Crompton in the top five quarterbacks in the '05 class. Who else was in Cromptons class of '05? Here ya' go:

Mark Sanchez

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foot...

Ryan Perrilloux

On December 1, Perrilloux made his second start, this time in the SEC Championship Game versus Tennessee, replacing an injured Matt Flynn. He completed 20 of 30 passes for 243 yards, one touchdown, and one interception. He also scored on a two-point conversion run. Perrilloux led the Tigers to a 21-14 win over the Volunteers, and was named the player of the game by CBS Sports. The victory helped propel the Tigers to the BCS National Championship Game against Ohio State, after #1 Missouri and #2 West Virginia lost later that night. It was the second time since 2001 that a backup quarterback led LSU to the SEC Championship Game victory (Matt Mauck did it in 2001 versus Tennessee).

Jake Christensen

http://hawkeyesports.cstv.com/sports/...

Harrison Beck

http://nebraska.rivals.com/viewprospe...

Don't forget who Jonathan Crompton is. We haven't seen anything yet...but when he gets his time in the sun...like his contemporaries...look out SEC. He's gonna' kick serious butt and take no prisoners!

Posted by thevol on December 5, 2007 at 1:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks for the reminders on Crompton Geoff. I have been looking forward to watching Crompton lead this team. The players will rally aound him because of his abilities, effort, and leadership skills. We don't need a gimmick offense, we need leadership and execution. Interesting that none of the top 5 qbs from that class have really become stars yet. Next year will be the year for most of them.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thevol,

You're welcome. I'm really looking forward forward to his leadership and tenacity. I believe that you are right on about the players rallying around him. Sometimes people forget, or never knew who someone is and Jonathan Crompton is a winner. He is probably the best overall player of that '05 super quarterback class. I'm anxious to see him unleashed!

He'll get to show his stuff early:

Sept 6 UCLA Pasadena Ca
Sept 20 Florida*- Home
Sept 27 Auburn* Auburn Al
Oct 4 No Illinois - Home
Oct 11 Georgia* Athens Ga

Go Crompton - Go Volunteers!

Posted by TurboFan on December 5, 2007 at 2:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cgbtn, get out a calculator. After 2.5 sec a 4.3 receiver can go 23 yards, figuring a passer to throw at 40 mph (anybody know how fast a football can be thrown?) it would take 2 sec to traverse 40 yards. 2.5 + 2 < 4.3. Thus the receiver would be waiting on the ball 40 yards down field. Of course that doens't take into account trajectory of the ball or juking of the reciever. That concludes today's lesson.

PS, I still think JA is drinking martinis as he writes.

Posted by LargeOrange on December 5, 2007 at 2:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff - I do remember the big hit in the LSU game last year. I loved it. I just keep remembering, I had a chance to meet him during football camp (my son attended), he was in street clothes and he just looked sort of average in size, more like a baseball player than a bruiser. He definitely looked a lot smaller than Peyton, Clausen and Ainge. That was 2 years ago and obviously size is only one factor, look at Berry for instance, he distributed more pain last Saturday than any body on the field to much bigger LSU players. I would love to see Crompton get a couple of series in the Outback, much like T did. Remember the drive at the end of the '97 Nebraska Orange bowl? I hope this time it is because we have a big lead rather than the blowout we suffered that year.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange,

I do remember that drive. Also, great observation about how Berry hits. Berry hit like he weighed 275! That's what I love to see. Guys who give it their all EVERY DOWN...EVERY SECOND...EVERY GAME. We now have a couple of guys who've shown that and Crompton will fit right in. I love the G-Gun and all that and think it will add to our overall chances to really roll on offense next year...and have a really good defense at the same time (like combining '05 and '07)! Crompton is one tough guy and if they let him play his game...he will be a difference maker.

Posted by LargeOrange on December 5, 2007 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks tng - What about Creer? Didn't he take some snaps at WR on Saturday? He looks good too, we have to find ways to get him, Arian, and Hardisty (sp) if he can stay healthy, in at the same time. I could be wrong, but i don't think that DB runs down Creer on that long run to the 15 in the 4th qtr.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LargeOrange,

Lennon Creer is a MAN. A very, very FAST MAN. He is one of our brightest spots for the future. I hope we see more of him sooner than later. Look at his size, speed and strengt:

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/...

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/...

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about G-Man? Many schools wanted him BAD. This link is from Nebraska's recruiting page, but he was in serious demand. We are very lucky to have him too...again very, very fast:

http://nebraska.rivals.com/viewprospe...

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Small world TNGeoff, some of my family on my dad's side is from Watauga as well. My aunt still lives on Roan Mountain.

Anyway, I tend to agree with Crank E, running the ball with authority has been a weak point of this team the past couple of years. Holding the lead and controlling the clock has been a problem in the second half for the Vols and a dependable running game solves that problem.

I would like to see more focus on the fundamentals as opposed to adding more to the playbook at this point. Blocking downfield by the receivers, running more precise routes, offensive linemen holding their blocks longer, runnings backs working on better reads and breaking tackles etc., I think all of these areas can use some improvement. However, one of my biggest gripes has to be the number of times on 3rd down we see a receiver cut the route off short of the the first down marker.

Finally, using Jones more in the QB position could help but putting Berry back there with him is nonsense. Berry will have his hands full leading the defense next year. Also, if being a high school QB is the criteria being used, then we already have Taylor who has proven he can throw in game situations. as far as turnng Crompton into Tebow, it's a nice thought and he is very capable, but I don't think the coaches will risk it. Remember, he already lost one year to a shoulder injury and I believe it was his throwing shoulder.

Posted by brdteton on December 5, 2007 at 2:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hmmm, Tngeoff,,,

Accomplishments, winning percentages, and even time spent in pro ball, say that Tee Martin was a better 'multi dimensional threat' than Heath Schuler.

I will be happy to have a new QB as well, and not a dink and dunk west coast guy, as per the last 8 years (Clausen, Clausen, Ainge)

That said, I hope Cromp Daddy can back up his ego...

If he is 1/2 as good as he thinks he is, we will be great!

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid,

That's cool about Watauga. I LOVE that place. My Watauga relatives are Feathers and Blevins.

Anyway, with Crompton, Foster and Jones all as possible backfield threats, we will be loaded. Adding the run dimension for our quarterback will open up the passing game even more. Run Tennessee Run!

Posted by TommyJack on December 5, 2007 at 2:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is the deal with Crompton's ego???

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

brdteton,

Tee was awesome and humble. What a unique combination! Heath was cocky in my opinion and he hurt himself and Tennessee when he opted out his senior year. I'll nmever forget that story he spun and the picture of him in Sports Illustrated with the all american cllegiate look holding his knee in his hands as he posed for the story. That sukked. Crompton though? He's been low key through all this and it appears to me that he is simply waiting his time. I've never found him to be cocky like Shuler...have you? As for Martin...he was a winner in every respect.

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

KCSD, have to go with mbumburu regarding Cutcliffe, exactly how many coaches have not flopped at Ole Miss? I'll freely admit I wasn't happy when Fulmer took the Marty McFly approach in bringing Cutcliffe back after that exhaustive "national coaching search", but the offense hasn't been the issue this year. Sure, there are areas that need to be shored up but, with all due respect, it's not like we have Stallworth and Price on the outside with Henry and Lewis running the ball either.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 2:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

invisiblekid,

"McFly" That's a great post!

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

TNGeoff, Pealer and Trent was the last name of my relatives. I've had opportunites but chosen not to stray too far away from home and look forward to getting back to the Tri-Cities area permanently at some point.

TommyJack, what's the deal with Crompton's ego? I'll tell you what it is, he's a loser/hater!! Just kidding fellas. Heard some grumblings about Crompton but riding the bench for a couple of years can do wonders for personality.

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks TNGeoff.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 3:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

jdcvols,

My GrandDad lived up above the old steam plant (on the Watauga River)across from the rock quarry. Behind his house was what was called Bogart Knob.

I haven't heard anything really about Crompton having any kind of ego problem and you can trust that the good old KNS would have publicized it (Maybe they'll take this lead and make sonething up for controversy!). He's a tough kid waiting for his time. HURRY UP TIME!

Posted by tigervol9802 on December 5, 2007 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am excited about Crompton.

Don't forget everyone, Cut was also the OC with a guy named Shuler and a guy named Martin. While Tee wasn't an option QB, Cut wasn't afraid to let him run when the situation warranted it.

As for Shuler, go back and look at the 93 offense. I want to say it was ranked in the top 5 in the country that year statistically in points and YPG.

My initial gut feeling is that we'll seea more diversified offense next year. Not the spread, but more possibilties. Plus, I wouldn't be that surprised if we insorporated a G-gun/Wildhog type formation into the offense a bit more.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What the? I didn't mean to address that to jdcvols...I'm getting too old! That was to invisiblekid.

Posted by tigervol9802 on December 5, 2007 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

geoff -

Rumbling always has been that Crompton was really cocky coming out of high school. I don't know if that has calmed any with maturing, but trust me, I doube he ever has any moments were he doubts himself too much.

In all honesty, with all that happened in 05 anyway, it's probably best he was hurt that year. I don't even want to think about what it would have been like throwing him into the mix.

Posted by TommyJack on December 5, 2007 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol: Nothing wrong with being a little cocky. Ask ole Hueypilot.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 3:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol9802,

Extremely good point about '05. That year was crazy enough!

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol9802,

It does surprise me a bit though about people making any comments about his cockiness. When he decided he was coming here he was all about Tennessee and even proactively reached out to some key recruits for us. Maybe that was perceived as "cocky" by some since his message to those recruits was that he intended to win at Tennessee and wanted them to help make that happen! But he loved Tennessee when he came here and was ecstatic about it. I only hope the that his enthuisiasm will be reborn in full next year.

Posted by tigervol9802 on December 5, 2007 at 3:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Never said there was anything wrong with a little cockiness, just clarifying the comments about his ego.

As long as the guy is cocky enough to know he has the potential but at the same time humble enough to know to listen to the coaches to get better, then he is fine with me.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tigervol9802,

Well said.

Posted by txsvol on December 5, 2007 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff, thanks for the links to our players. We have recruited well. But, we need to specifically recruit and develop players even better. As IVK says, we need a powerful running game, which starts with strong, quick, big-uglies on the OL. The spread offense, as exemplified by Mike Leach and Texas Tech, (and June Jones and the Hawaii Rainbows--which would kill me if we lost to) can beat inferior opponents, but at the same time, when it comes time to close out a game, they usually get beat, when the opponent is a quality team. The offensive linemen take wider gaps, and just don't learn how to run block well enough to run out the clock. If a team is not prepared, or good enough, and the receivers get separation, they look great. I think it would be great to have Eric Berry line up in the backfield or WR next year. If nothing else, with a few key plays and beating certain teams, it might "Woodson" Tim Tebow for the Heisman trophy. Go Vols! SAVol

Posted by marc_ash on December 5, 2007 at 3:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff, yea don't address jdcvols...that would just be a waste of your time lol.

As for JC, I agree with you that he brings more to the table. Tigervol made a good point about the similarities style with Heath and Tee (which I met in a Toys R Us store in Kennessaw GA on Sunday haha). Cut has a QB that can make things happen with his feet. Heath and Tee could be multidimensional if need be. Ainge couldn't.

Cocky or not, if he wins ballgames I'm sure most people really won't care. CPF is a nice guy, and many seem to not care about that.

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 4:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

txsvol,

You're welcome. Sometimes it helps to review who adn what we have and why we have them. We are very lucky with many. I hope we end up strong to finish out this recruiting season. Certainly the new message here is that freshmen may start! Good news! As for the rest of your post, I agree wholeheartedly.

marc_ash,

I don't know what happened on that jdcvols spasm. But, yup I agree with your closing line.

Posted by TnVolFaninSmyrna on December 5, 2007 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know this isn't the right thread or topic for this, but I don't even believe there is one. The AAFL will be having tryouts for the Tennessee team Thursday and Friday. A few names that will be trying out: Tee Martin, James Wilhoit, Cody Douglas, Bobby Graham, Corey Larkins, Constantin Ritzmann. Here is the link if you care to watch the tryouts online tomorrow and Friday:

http://www.allamericanfootballleague....

Once agin, I apologize for this being on this thread.

The AAFL website has loads more info if your interested.

Posted by b_appleton on December 5, 2007 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

crompton will have us back in the championship game next year... put a QB that size up with a better line, running game, and a wealthier cache of WRs... means you can recruit the *&^% out of D players this year! God please get us a wild man for a fullback who wants to put some hurt on people!!!

Posted by rootin4volz on December 5, 2007 at 5:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe that the word "Explore" is in the headline of the article gents...Not "Institute." Mr. Adams is suggesting all options (spread included) be EXPLORED.

Posted by ssukonic on December 5, 2007 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You guys talking about the G-gun. Why wouldn't a team stack the line of scrimmage everytime Gerald Jones came in the game at QB? He'd have to show he could throw it occasionally, woudn't he? I think he was explosively fun to watch and I'm sure he game some D coordinators gray hair. But again, why wouldn't they then stack the line, play man, and dare Gerald to throw?

Posted by Southland on December 5, 2007 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Find someone that wants Cutcliffe and call them. Help him get a new job. Then find someone that has some backbone to tell Fulmer he needs some new ideas.

Posted by bobbyutvol on December 5, 2007 at 6:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

AMEN I SAID THAT AFTER THE LSU GAME WE NEED A THREAT... DEFENCES HAVE TROUBLE WHEN THEY DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE GOING TO PASS OR RUN... TIMES CHANGE ... SO DO THE VOLS... IM SURE COACH FULMER WILL EXPLORE THIS... GO VOLS

Posted by pdhuff on December 5, 2007 at 7:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cranke - 5:47a.m., son... don't come on here with that heresy of running the football. You know what that does? Lets see, keeps the ball away from other team, rests our defense (Lord knows they need it) and runs clock. Well h@#l, that could lead to 11 or 12 wins per season. Lord knows, to get a raise you need to lose at least 5 games (we should qualify this year). What that you say, Phil's getting a whopper increase. See, proves my point, no need to tote the pig. OSU # 1 knows nothing trying to run the ball. Our dink and dunk held LSU to only twelve minutes longer of possession. We just finished second in the SECCG. Forget your wild-eyed dream of toting the pig. Son, we come by air, receivers or not. Some misguided posters even think those INTs hurt us aganst LSU. Pshaw! We'd be stressed by being in the BCS. This way we can can cool it in beautiful Tampa at 7:00 am PCT showing our wares. Feel better now. Go Vols!

Posted by bigfan502 on December 5, 2007 at 8:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IF VOLS COULD FIND QB IN THE SAME MOLD AS T> MARTIN THAT KEPT THE LINEBACKERS ON THEIR HEELS, WOW ARE YOU KIDDING ME? A THREAT TO PASS OR RUN QB IS DOUBLY DANGEROUS... SAY NOTHING ABOUT OUR COACHING STAFF, GO VOLS, WIN THE BOWL GAME. IT SEEMS WE HAVE LOST RESPECT AROUND THE NATION...SOME SAY ITS BECAUSE WE CAN'T WIN A BOWL GAME.

Posted by KingsportVol on December 5, 2007 at 8:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Straight out of Crompton" Awesome!!!That's the
best name for an offensive package that I have heard all season.NWA.I am very excited about having JC at the helm for the next 2 years.Hopefully we will get to see him in the bowl game.Go Big Orange!!

Posted by tngeoff on December 5, 2007 at 8:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Crompton will certainly change the landscape for opponents. We should be VERY strong next year.

By the way...people were lecturing Coach Summit on another thread about how she should run the Lady Vols. What a joke. Lady Vols pounding Old Dominion 63 - 38 with eight minutes to go. Second guess Fulmer? Fine. Coach Summit? Idiotic.

Posted by KingsportVol on December 5, 2007 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

tngeoff very true.I just hope the coaching staff opens the offense up next season.I think we will be very strong on both sides of the ball and we shouldn't have to run the prevent offense when we get a lead.Crompton is going to be a beasts.Hope he stays healthy.Shuler came by my work this past summer and said he plays wide open and is very tough.Go Big Orange!!!

Posted by UTVol39 on December 5, 2007 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I would be cautious about naming my offense anything that had to do with food. I would be afraid Fulmer might eat it before the game. Or in this case, since it is a berry, he might use it as a topping for his cheesecake.

Posted by ge446 on December 5, 2007 at 9:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you are going to praise the staff for the first series of plays in each of the last four games you must then wonder about the following series and the productivity during many 3 and out possessions. It is not there yet and UT will need to add some extra dimension to their offense in order to be more productive in the future. We are like the golfer who is just trying not to double bogey a hole as he has the lead as he starts the back nine. His opponent is trying to make birdies and it doesn't take many birdies to overtake someone with a 3 or 4 stroke lead who is making pars or bogies

Posted by KingsportVol on December 5, 2007 at 9:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Word ge

Posted by ozoney on December 5, 2007 at 10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BLAH BLAH BLAH...COACHING..BLAH BLAH BLAH..ERIC BERRY...bottom line is...we beat the teams we out-talent..and we get drilled by the teams we are closely matched with..grow up people..stop supporting the idiot who can't coach...we are consistently outcoached...the games we win?..our talent outplays lesser opponents through all our shoddy schemes. screw this coaching staff and screw mediocre..berry would have been better off @ florida the way some of you fans are acting...."we came close!!!"..."we almost beat a limping LSU team!"..."hey..where have you been?!?!..UT hasn't been this successful in years!!"...STFU and WAKE UP.....get a new coaching staff in here that can coach the talent we have to BEAT teams like UF/LSU/...dare i say CAL?!?!are you serious?!?! CAL?!?!? some vol fans are happy after we get beat by Cal?..you are pathetic if you are happy with this..and if you aren't happy with the loss to Cal..then do something about it...get rid of Fulmer

Posted by IPOrange on December 5, 2007 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't hold back, ozoney. Tell us how you really feel.

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 10:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just in case anyone didn't catch the article regarding coaching salaries in USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colleg...

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colleg...

Not much that hasn't already been talked about already, but it makes for some interesting stats.

Posted by invisiblekid on December 5, 2007 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ozoney, in case you haven't noticed, they are giving Fulmer a raise and extension so your pleas have fallen on deaf ears.

Posted by PLEASEGETRIDOFTHENOTSOSLIMONE on December 5, 2007 at 10:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm with you Ozoney!

Posted by Colliervol on December 5, 2007 at 10:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IVK, another interesting item in all that stuff about coaching salaries. Tommy T. at Auburn had just an average year and ends up getting a giant raise to $2.8 mill next year and $3.2 the following year. Kirk-freaking-Ferentz at Iowa is now over $3 mill per year. Has he ever even sniffed a Big 10 title? I guess Pete Boone was right about one thing: "The price of poker has gone up."

I'm also thinking that ozoney is another one of our erstwhile fans who isn't in direct contact with Jim Haslem but that's just a guess. Why he wasted his breath on us with that sermon is anybody's guess. Another one who's into self flagellation I reckon.

Posted by agentorange on December 6, 2007 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

just in case any of you actually have watched football and think a coach magically makes shiznit happen, look at bama's 4 million dollar coach. look how nebraska went into oblivion by abondoning what they know how to do. there are so many stupid, gay and retarded comments on here that I now know why people are scared of juries. we are one of the smallest schools in the sec, yet we have one of the best records. UF is the 4th most populated state in the country. if they weren't damn good, there would be something wrong. 50,000 kids go to school there. UGA has ATL. what does TN have? Antioch? Pearl Cohn? Yeah, that's it tards.

Posted by crtant3 on December 6, 2007 at 12:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't wait to see us in teh g-gun/spread. I mean Tebow is only a sophmore and he was fantastic. UF had a great finish of 9-3 and he only had a bad shoulder and broken hand to show for it. Bring it on, we just need to be three deep at QB!!!!

Posted by sjt18 on December 6, 2007 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If rumors are correct, this very offensive idea or something very much like it was put in front of Berry and Jones when they were being recruited.

Posted by sjt18 on December 6, 2007 at 10:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ozoney/pleasegetridof...

UT's coaches thoroughly outcoached LSU. In the end, mistakes by players cost them the game. Ainge in particular made some critical mistakes but the game would have been entirely different had Lincoln made even one of those first half FG's.

It is worthy of repeating- LSU has the most talented football team in the country, bar none. UT took them to the wire and should have beaten them... with the worst combination of talent+experience the Vols have had in a long time.

YOU are the one that needs to grow up.

Posted by invisiblekid on December 6, 2007 at 7:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Collier, we are both in agreement that it is just flat-out pointless to discuss Fulmer leaving. He isn't going to walk away from the cash and seems too stubborn to admit he may have had his day. Not saying they can't get back to the promised land but it's going to take a good bit more work. And to be honest, I think it's a fair question of whether he and his staff have it in them.

This coaching salary deal across the board is getting ready to hit another level of absurdity and we have the schools you mentioned to thank for it. At the head of the class though is the Mullet Nation and their head philosophizer, Nick Sabum.

Posted by leedsvol2007 on December 7, 2007 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with Adams that we need to run some spread with Jones and with Berry provided we have enough secondary depth to allow him some rest.

I think Crompton is going to give us a Heath Shuler/Tee Martin threat at QB which will help us get receivers open and allow more time to throw.

I thought Ainge did a great job this year and showed toughness by playing hurt. And Manning, Kelley, as well as a litany of QB's have made the same mistake he did against LSU.

In fact the one Jets game I saw when Namath was quarterbacking them was in 1967. The game ended in a 35-35 tie (no overtime then) and cost the Jets a berth in the 68 Super Bowl. He threw two INT's that were returned for TD's and had to make a spectacular tackle on the last play of the game to stop a third.

Ainge needs to put it behind him and lead the way against Wisconsin.

GoVols!

Posted by phi0129 on December 12, 2007 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow you talk smack about the people who are anti-Fulmer, but God at least we are realistic. Listen to all of ya'll talking about Crompton like he is the 2nd coming. I hate to burst your bubble but he hasn't shown anything yet. Let's wait and see how he does next year. And all this talk about being back in the SEC championship next year is ludicrous. While I think we will have enough talent to finish in the top 10 next year, I think GA and FL could be in the top 5. Barring a miracle, no way we make it back to ATL next year. The SEC East will be far and away the hardest division in college football.